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4 losses by a Grand total of 20 points and 1 of them a 10 points loss after Love threw a pick 6.

They are right there....and ANY team underestimating the Packers will get their asses kicked.

Eisen moved the Lions down a notch in his power rankings after beating the Packers Lions fans are incensed.

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He would be getting absolutely crucified on all the talk shows if the Packers stopped that last 4th down. That's how terrified he was of Giving Jordan Love the ball with 0:50 left & no timeouts. The Lions are afraid of the Packers. You can see it.

That was a horrific decision, IDGAF if it worked this time. He does that shit in the playoffs and gets eliminated, he'll never hear the end of it.

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Do  coaches who play ‘by the book’ ever pay when things don’t go well?

Yup, they do.  They get fired just like this guy eventually will.  It’s working now cause he has a good team which has bought in.

NFL applies to coaches too.

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I don't see it as an indication of him being afraid of us, more their confidence in the play they called vs who we had in the game and how they were lined up. Curiously Cox was in at end instead of Gary, In addition, Cox was lined up in the gap inside the RT Sewall which allowed Sewall to drive Cox into his RG and then release and also block Quay Walker, essentially driving two defenders out of the hole that Gibbs ran through. Unless we had sent all 11 guys on a run blitz, there was no way we were stopping that run. Go to 29:34 for the all 22 view of the play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usdCC-SY4ww

@Boris posted:

He would be getting absolutely crucified on all the talk shows if the Packers stopped that last 4th down. That's how terrified he was of Giving Jordan Love the ball with 0:50 left & no timeouts. The Lions are afraid of the Packers. You can see it.

That was a horrific decision, IDGAF if it worked this time. He does that shit in the playoffs and gets eliminated, he'll never hear the end of it.

The Lions are afraid of the Packers? The Lions who have beat the Packers 6/7 of the last contests and were missing most of their defense? I do feel this Packer offense is Championship caliber, but the defense is not.

I think DC's butt was pretty tight on that fourth down call. Sideline shots of him don't exactly inspire confidence. DC didn't see it as a slam dunk, but neither was he in fear of GB. My view was that he was truly 50-50 and teetering either way. His pinky finger tipped the scale to go for it because that's the persona he's built: he had to go for it because that's what Dan Campbell does. But, he also hesitated because he would have gotten roasted if GB had blown it up like they did the earlier fourth down.

In the end, he gets to brag because it worked.

@Fandame posted:

but neither was he in fear of GB.

Disagree. He was afraid Love would drive down and Packers would win & that's exactly why he went for it. His defense wasn't stopping shit in the 2nd half.

@Fandame posted:

In the end, he gets to brag because it worked.

Agree 💯 %

To clear up my point: Campbell was afraid of Love marching down the field, but he wasn't living in fear of our D stopping them either. Like I said, it was a pinky finger tipping the scale, not even a thumb.

I'm fairly confident Dan Meathead did not fear giving the Packers the ball.

He went for it on fourth down because he's supremely confident in his players. He went for it because he new making it took away any possibility ofthe Packers tying or winning in regulation. He went for it because that's what he does. He probaby makes that same decision 9 out 10 times regardless of the opponent. 

I’m not sure how you conclude DC was afraid of a team that the Lions have basically owned for the past few seasons but whatever.

DC keeps getting the “meathead” tag around here. Explain please.

@Pakrz posted:

DC keeps getting the “meathead” tag around here. Explain please.

Because the decision to go for it on 4th down was horrific....but you go on thinking it was "great" because it worked.

I'd say the same thing if it was MLF in that situation. MLF himself said he gambled and won. Credit to him.

Right.....the team that whipped their asses last Thanksgiving. They were shell shocked in that game....and yeah I get it, Packers haven't beaten them this year.

Season ain't over yet.

I'm sure the Lions will just go on to be 16-1 and win it all. This is my first year watching football. Just spitballing here.

@PackLandVA posted:

I'm fairly confident Dan Meathead did not fear giving the Packers the ball.

If that's so, then he would've kicked the FG on 4th down. He was terrified & knows he probably loses if he kicks the FG on 4th down.

@PackLandVA posted:

He probaby makes that same decision 9 out 10 times regardless of the opponent.

Right....like vs. the Niners last year costing his team advancing to the Super Bowl. Exactly.

@Boris posted:

If that's so, then he would've kicked the FG on 4th down. He was terrified & knows he probably loses if he kicks the FG on 4th down.

Well, let's look at it another way. Because there are three possible outcomes.

1. He's terrified of the Packers offense, so he gambles on fourth down. He makes it, and the Packers never get the ball back, thus sealing the win.

2. He's terrified of the Packers offense, so he gambles on fourth down. He doesn't make it. The Packers get the ball and he's even more terrified because Love only has to drive them into FG range with 50 seconds and no TOs.

3. He's terrified of the Packers offense, but he decides to kick the FG to take the lead. Love gets the ball with 50 seconds and no TOs, but he'll most likely drive the length of the field for a TD.



So in two of the three outcomes, Love would get the ball, and by your standards, drive down the field and, A - get in FG range for the winning FG, or B- put it in the endzone for a Packers win.



@Boris posted:

Because the decision to go for it on 4th down was horrific....but you go on thinking it was "great" because it worked.



So then it really was the right decision after all, and not horrific, right?

From ESPN:    Guy got what he deserved.

DETROIT -- The Lions confirmed to ESPN that the team has revoked the season tickets of a fan who had a pregame verbal altercation with Packers coach Matt LaFleur at Ford Field last week.

A TV camera caught the end of a heated exchange between LaFleur and Fahad Yousif, a Lions fan from Farmington Hills, Michigan, who was part of the group holding the giant flag for the national anthem last Thursday night.

LaFleur could be seen yelling at the fan, but said his actions were provoked.

"I've never been a part of something like that," LaFleur said following Sunday's 34-31 loss to the Lions. "He was talking junk to our players, giving them the throat-slash sign. You're trying to de-escalate it, and then he gets in my face. I thought it was pretty unsportsmanlike.

"I've never seen that. I've been on many fields, and usually they police that much better. I thought it was an arrogant fan that wanted to get in a part of the action," he said. "I would like to see security, or something step in there and get him out of there, because it's, he shouldn't be doing that. Yeah."

Yousif confirmed the team's decision to The Detroit News and said he's "devastated" by the move after being contacted via email.

"The biggest gut punch, man," Yousif told The Detroit News on Thursday. "Just waking up and seeing that email and not being able to talk to somebody in person, it was a terrible feeling. "I don't have my chance to give my side of the story or anything."

The 12-1 Lions are off to their best start in franchise history with 11 consecutive victories. On Sunday, they will return to Ford Field to host the Bills (10-3) in a matchup of Super Bowl contenders. Yousif, a lifelong Lions fan, said the team's success is "making it hurt even more."

"This has been my identity my whole life, and it's just ripped away from me over a small incident. It definitely could've been avoided on my end," Yousif told The Detroit News.

"I would let [the Lions] know I'm so sorry that I embarrassed this team. Like, this really wasn't my intention. I would apologize to anyone and do anything I could to get back in the stadium, supporting my team."

Classic douchebag fan that has never won anything. Great to see the Lions do the right thing.

The funniest thing is these Lion fans want us Packer fans to hate them so bad. And we just don't. I think you have to win something first.. You know at least within the last 70 years anyway.

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@ammo posted:


"This has been my identity my whole life, and it's just ripped away from me over a small incident. It definitely could've been avoided on my end," Yousif told The Detroit News.



Kinda answered his own question there.

I'd like to see them police fans better all the way around. He must have said something pretty bad to get MLF up in his face; most coaches just ignore crap said by fans, and MLF's not exactly a climb-into-the-stands guy. Fans think that just buying a ticket allows them free rein to say and do anything.

@Boris posted:

Classic douchebag fan that has never won anything. Great to see the Lions do the right thing.

The funniest thing is these Lion fans want us Packer fans to hate them so bad. And we just don't. I think you have to win something first.. You know at least within the last 70 years anyway.

Oh, I don't know, I hate the vikings fans more than any team and they haven't won crap either...

True, it is tough to work up hate for the Lions. Much like Cleveland and Buffalo.  Those fans/teams have had a life time of misery. Like the Cubs, I was happy for them when they finally won, it was a great story.  Now I wish they lose for another 100 years.

As for the Vikes?  I lived there for 25 years, nuf said.

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