Starting this for the people interested in following Aaron's first season in NJ.
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I'll be following. Watched several of the YouTube highlights recently. One about teams who left Aaron too much time was particularly fun. Best of videos are everywhere. He's gone. We've moved on. But let's not kid ourselves. It was an amazing ride.
I'm conflicted. can we block threads?
I'll root for him to play at an MVP level. And if the Packers don't make/win the SB this year, then I'll be rooting for AR and the Jets. And before someone inevitably tells me that the Jets doing well hurts the Packers draft status - save it. My rooting interest has absolutely nothing to do with how either team will actually play. Weak reasoning if you plan to make it.
I'll be interested to see if he keeps that chip on his shoulder.
Will we see another "ATL performance" while he's in a Jets uniform?
I have to admit, that would put a smile on my face & the Jets fans will be creaming their jeans.
If ARod returns to (or near) MVP-level play, it might create some hard feelings for me.
There were too many times last year (especially) when he seemed uninterested, and would resort to the TOG's method of play ("fuck it, I'm throwing it anyway").
Typically accompanied by the same look of "I'd rather be anywhere but here" TOG became known for his last year or so in Green Bay.
Of course, none of that may be actually true, but just having that perception is bad enough.
Now, if he is all of a sudden loose, relaxed, having fun, not to mention doing things like throwing to the open receiver, not ignoring a guy who dropped a pass 3 games previous, sticking with the play as called... that would make me think he just didn't care what happened. Other than collecting an obscene amount of money for that.
I agree with Timmy. I'm thinking it was all just an act after Love was drafted. I'm hoping the Bills kick the Jets ass!
I hope he takes 65% of their snaps and they sh*t the bed and end up with the first overall pick. Not likely, but a fan can dream. Go Pack Go.
Not even 2 fucks given. Let me know when he hits the 65% mark.
Must see tv for moi.
I'll be interested to see if he comes up small in big moments in NY like he frequently did with the Packers.
I'll be interested in the Ripley's Believe It or Not style situation where his defense holds teams to under 20 on a regular basis.
It would be interesting if that happens all the way into the playoffs but he still gets stymied by another team's D and comes up short.
I'm on the fence. The impression he left was that he couldn't have cared less about being a team player, helping guys succeed, playing the system, etc., his last season in GB. He was going through the motions, and the only reason he didn't sit was because he didn't want to let Love show him up in any way. Yet, when he was on, he was on and for many years there was no one better.
And yes, I think he'll continue to fall short in big games. It will be interesting to see what Belichick has in store for him this year...
tough crowd. Wow. What have you done for me lately? I don't give a shit about what you did a few years ago, eff off, loser. SMH.
@DH13 posted:I'll be interested in the Ripley's Believe It or Not style situation where his defense holds teams to under 20 on a regular basis.
It would be interesting if that happens all the way into the playoffs but he still gets stymied by another team's D and comes up short.
AKA San Francisco playoff game.
Our D was on Fire for MOST of that game.
I've said it here before, but I just can't bring myself to root for a player or coach after they leave GB. Call me petty, insecure, resentful, jealous, etc. When someone succeeds after leaving GB in the back of my head I'm always pissed they didn't continue that success with the Pack.
The exception though is if that individual is playing the Vikings. Seriously
@Floridarob posted:tough crowd. Wow. What have you done for me lately? I don't give a shit about what you did a few years ago, eff off, loser. SMH.
This! When he quit giving a shit about the Pack I quit giving a shit about him.
@YATittle posted:AKA San Francisco playoff game.
Our D was on Fire for MOST of that game.
And the SF defense was too. That SF defense was really, really good.
That loss was due to special teams ineptitude.
@Fandame posted:I'm on the fence. The impression he left was that he couldn't have cared less about being a team player, helping guys succeed, playing the system, etc., his last season in GB. He was going through the motions, and the only reason he didn't sit was because he didn't want to let Love show him up in any way. Yet, when he was on, he was on and for many years there was no one better.
And yes, I think he'll continue to fall short in big games. It will be interesting to see what Belichick has in store for him this year...
Belichick will go down as a top 3 coach all-time, but he's lost some of his fastball.
The decision to go with Matt Patricia as the Offensive Coordinator last year was one of the single-most idiotic coaching decisions in the entire NFL last year. Joe Judge as the co-coach? That wasn't some spur-of-the moment, snap decision like deciding whether to challenge on a specific play or go for it on 4th down. That was something where BB looked at the situation (including how crappy Patricia was in Detroit) and thought it was a good idea.
That's almost as disastrous as the Packers' special teams coaching hire in 2021.
The Onion sure love this guy. He gives the much reason to.
God, I love the Onion. What a great job that must be, cracking up with your coworkers everyday. Probably what it's like to be a beat writer for the Bears.
@lovepack posted:God, I love the Onion. What a great job that must be, cracking up with your coworkers everyday. Probably what it's like to be a beat writer for the Bears.
I have a friend who worked for them back when they were based in Madison. He sat in an office all day by himself editing media. He will get a kick out of the image you just drew up.
Yeah, MLF lost it by keeping that Incompetent ST coach till he cost us a shot at a Super Bowl.
@Goalline posted:The Onion sure love this guy. He gives the much reason to.
Shades of Macbeth in this one!
@Goalline posted:The Onion sure love this guy. He gives the much reason to.
The Onion loves TOG as well.
https://www.theonion.com/brett...his-penis-1849598075
@MichiganPacker posted:And the SF defense was too. That SF defense was really, really good.
That loss was due to special teams ineptitude.
True, but you're not going to win many playoff games scoring 10 points. If your defense holds them to 6 the offense should be able to put them away where a blocked punt doesn't beat you. Plus there was still time to win the game after the block.
@MichiganPacker posted:Belichick will go down as a top 3 coach all-time, but he's lost some of his fastball.
The decision to go with Matt Patricia as the Offensive Coordinator last year was one of the single-most idiotic coaching decisions in the entire NFL last year. Joe Judge as the co-coach? That wasn't some spur-of-the moment, snap decision like deciding whether to challenge on a specific play or go for it on 4th down. That was something where BB looked at the situation (including how crappy Patricia was in Detroit) and thought it was a good idea.
That's almost as disastrous as the Packers' special teams coaching hire in 2021.
Not only that but Brady has won without Belichick, who's W/L record is suddenly mediocre. We might now see who was really behind the Patriot's success.
@Goalline posted:The Onion sure love this guy. He gives the much reason to.
Rodgers always referenced his inner circle. Now we know who they are.
@PackerRick posted:Not only that but Brady has won without Belichick, who's W/L record is suddenly mediocre. We might now see who was really behind the Patriot's success.
Belichick is the best defensive coach of all-time. Look at Bill Parcells' record for proof.
Parcells coached for 17 years. In those 17 years, Belichick was on his staff for 12 of them. In those 12 years, Parcells' teams won two Super Bowls and were 11-5 in the playoffs. In the 5 years Parcells' didn't have Belichick, he didn't win a single playoff game.
Belichick has never been a great offensive coach. His offensive coordinators have never been successful on their own. He has won one playoff game as a head coach without Tom Brady. It's ironically when he beat the Patriots as coach of the Brown in 1995.
Tom Brady was the engine on that offense, but Brady doesn't win in NE without Belichick as the DC. I know Brady won in Tampa Bay, but he went to a handpicked situation on a team loaded with high first round picks (and got them to mortgage the future for Gronk, AB, and Fournette) and got very lucky that the Packers screwed up in that playoff game (basically handed them the win). At one point they were 7-5 and then got on a roll. Brady was the reason they won, but that was not a sustainable situation (unlike New England with Belichick).
I'm not sure how sustainable NE looks right now. If they don't finish last in their division I'll be surprised. I agree Belichick is a great coach but like you said, he's won one playoff game without Brady.
TB did everything they could to build a team for Brady but let's remember Brady was in his mid-forties and no longer in his prime. A couple more losing seasons in NE and people will really question who was the reason they were winning.
@MichiganPacker posted:Belichick is the best defensive coach of all-time. Look at Bill Parcells' record for proof.
Parcells coached for 17 years. In those 17 years, Belichick was on his staff for 12 of them. In those 12 years, Parcells' teams won two Super Bowls and were 11-5 in the playoffs. In the 5 years Parcells' didn't have Belichick, he didn't win a single playoff game.
Belichick has never been a great offensive coach. His offensive coordinators have never been successful on their own. He has won one playoff game as a head coach without Tom Brady. It's ironically when he beat the Patriots as coach of the Brown in 1995.
Tom Brady was the engine on that offense, but Brady doesn't win in NE without Belichick as the DC. I know Brady won in Tampa Bay, but he went to a handpicked situation on a team loaded with high first round picks (and got them to mortgage the future for Gronk, AB, and Fournette) and got very lucky that the Packers screwed up in that playoff game (basically handed them the win). At one point they were 7-5 and then got on a roll. Brady was the reason they won, but that was not a sustainable situation (unlike New England with Belichick).
Brady doesn’t owe anyone an explanation. The dude has done it any which way. Truly the greatest player in the history of this sport. That anyone dares to question that is pure silliness. We just got rid of a guy who was more interested in MVP’s than championships. Brady never lost sight of what truly matters. CHIPS!!!
Adam Venatieri, Malcolm Butler. Bullshit tuck rule, Kevin King. That's like 5 or 6 rings. AV gets credited with a couple at least.
@YATittle posted:AKA San Francisco playoff game.
Our D was on Fire for MOST of that game.
The way he fumbled twice really changed the tone of that game
I really hope Rodgers plays well, plays 10 games, and the Jets lose 10 games.
I'll watch because he was the best QB I've ever seen and because I watch a lot of NFL games. It's baffling to me how Packer fans want to diminish what he did because they don't like him. It's not like he demanded to be a viking.
When he robs poor folk, I'll turn on him too
For years opposing fans felt Rodgers was arrogant and selfish and Packer fans were in denial. I think his last few years in GB swayed plenty of Packer fans to feel the same way. We always wanted to put him in the conversation with Brady but it's become quite obvious there's no comparison on and off the field. Brady gave up salary to win championships. Rodgers sucked up as much cap and leverage as he could and talked about winning MVPs. In some ways he's even become an embarrassment. I don't think anybody is diminishing what he's done on the field but I think plenty of Packers fans now have their eyes open to what he is.
Championships are TEAM achievements.
Brady threw THREE INT's FFS in the NFC CG vs. the Pack. Only the Packers could lose that game.
Rodgers couldn't do anything....why? Because Bakhtiari was out. 🖕🏼 Superstar...do something
It was always something with him in the playoffs after he won the ONE chip.
@PackerRick posted:Brady gave up salary to win championships. Rodgers sucked up as much cap and leverage as he could and talked about winning MVPs.
while Brady gave up some $$$, let’s look at the whole narrative. Most football $$$ earned in NFL to date not including outside $$$. 1. Payton Manning $248 million. 2. Eli Manning $235 million. 3. Drew Brees $221 million. 4. Tom Brady $218 million. 5. Aaron Rodgers $205 million.