The Onion chimes in 😁
"Although it sucks to be injured and not be out on the field with my teammates, it will give me time to reflect on the batshit things I believe in and maybe even detach from reality altogether.”
Never mind what I wrote about a part of him just wanting to play golf. He just wants to play in 2023. 
18:19 for the classic I don't know anything about the cut block story. I like cut blocks.
@CUPackFan posted:Watch the play he got hurt on - does Rodgers get hurt on this same play 10 years ago? I don't think so. In his 20's, he spins out and gets away. But 39 year old Rodgers can't spin out of a sack like he used to. And he should know that. Now yes, when the tackle happened, the injury was fluky. But that's what happens when a player gets old - the number of opportunities to get hurt increases b/c they don't move the same way.
So fast forward to 2024 - is Rodgers better than he is now? Nope, he'll be worse. He'll have less mobility. His body will have not played for a year which at 40, isn't good. There's a reason we don't see 40 year old football players come back from major injuries like this. But I think Rodgers does (or tries) but just don't see how 2024 goes well for the Jets.
The one thing I really noticed about Rodgers last year was his legs were much slower. This was even more apparent when Love came into the Eagles game and looked so much faster than Rodgers did. And QB's legs going is the first warning sign a decline could be starting. This injury, even if he does have a full recovery and come back next year does not help that at all.
It will be interesting to see if he ends up playing like Brady or Manning (pocket passer) or attempts to try to still be Rodgers. I have to imagine if he has any chance of playing at a high level his sand lot/hero ball days have to be over. But I'm not sure if he's willing to admit that to himself.
Also, you don't see QB's past the age of 40 ever, injuries or not. The only QB to have success past age 40 was Brady. That's it, in the entire history of the NFL.
@DH13 posted:They have 12 more months to figure out how to trade for GB's OL.
Now that it's a sure thing the Packers will get a 2nd round pick for Rodgers they can now trade their #1 pick for Bakhtiari.
Unless there is a total collapse before the trade deadline, which I think is very very very unlikely, Bakhtiari will be here for the duration of the season. Next year maybe a different story unless he is willing to take a substantial paycut.
@YATittle posted:I thought he tore his left Achilles?
My mistake. It is his left Achilles.
That is actually good news for his arm and throwing. He'll still be able to drive off the right leg to generate power in his throw. He might lose some zip when he scrambles to his left though.
@vitaflo posted:The one thing I really noticed about Rodgers last year was his legs were much slower. This was even more apparent when Love came into the Eagles game and looked so much faster than Rodgers did. And QB's legs going is the first warning sign a decline could be starting. This injury, even if he does have a full recovery and come back next year does not help that at all.
It will be interesting to see if he ends up playing like Brady or Manning (pocket passer) or attempts to try to still be Rodgers. I have to imagine if he has any chance of playing at a high level his sand lot/hero ball days have to be over. But I'm not sure if he's willing to admit that to himself.
Also, you don't see QB's past the age of 40 ever, injuries or not. The only QB to have success past age 40 was Brady. That's it, in the entire history of the NFL.
His mobility definitely declined in the past 2-3 years. This is the area that's been somewhat unaccounted for in moving to a younger qb. Rodgers mobility and escapability really made him into the legend that he became. He's at the end of that road, and he may have no choice but to be Peyton Manning if he comes back. That's a tall order given what we see from the Jets o-line. As you mention, Brady is the outlier, but history is littered with older qbs coming back from significant injury only to realize they just can't do it anymore. In that case, all the determination and desire and fortitude means nothing. It would be great if he can come back at a level close to what he's been, but the odds are stacked against him.
In his age 38 year season even Montana was slowed down. While he still a good year passing,
| 60.6 % | 3,283 yards | 16 TD | 9 INT | 83.6 Rating |
His rushing was way down, 18 attempts, 17 yards with a long of 13. And that was without any major leg or feet injuries in his career. Rodgers will be a statue next season.
@Benzene posted:...
When asked for comment the doctor replied “Oops”
True story...
I had 3 heart attacks over an 11 month period (2011-12), the second about 3 months after the first, and the last about 4 months after the second.
After each one, I would go the the cath lab, the Dr. would find a blockage, do the necessary 'fix', and send me on my way.
I complained to him the second time that this can't be normal.
The third time, I'm ready to hurt him. Bad. During the procedure, I'm steadily bitching at him, until I hear him say "whoooops!"
There was another blockage he didn't find either of the first two times. No apology, no sympathy, just "whoooops!"
I don't know that I've ever so livid in my entire life, needless to say.
I hope I never get that way again.
@Timmy! posted:True story...
I had 3 heart attacks over an 11 month period (2011-12), the second about 3 months after the first, and the last about 4 months after the second.
After each one, I would go the the cath lab, the Dr. would find a blockage, do the necessary 'fix', and send me on my way.
I complained to him the second time that this can't be normal.
The third time, I'm ready to hurt him. Bad. During the procedure, I'm steadily bitching at him, until I hear him say "whoooops!"
There was another blockage he didn't find either of the first two times. No apology, no sympathy, just "whoooops!"
I don't know that I've ever so livid in my entire life, needless to say.
I hope I never get that way again.
I had to pee in the middle of my procedure. The nurse said "no problem" and jammed the piss jug under the sheet!
Timmy! That's awful. I'm truly sorry you endured that. Hope you're OK now. Give the doctor's contact info to BK.
You act like I kill people with regularity. Usually it’s just threats.
....said Ted Bundy. You're our enforcer through whatever means you deem nessessary.
Credit to NFLN’s Albert Breer on this one… Rams RB Cam Akers suffered an Achilles tear, and played six months later.
I wouldn’t be surprised if AR tries to beat that, somehow. Slim slim chance, yes, but if the Jets play into late January…
In a related note, I don’t believe Rodgers has been put on season ending IR yet. It will be interesting to see what they do, especially if Mister Don’t Bet Against Me is telling Joe Douglas to hold off.
Jets QB Aaron Rodgers aims for potential playoff return after innovative surgery on torn Achilles
Published: Sep 16, 2023 at 08:00 PM
by Ian Rapoport & Tom Pelissero
Sources say renowned orthopedic surgeon Dr. Neal ElAttrache and his team performed a procedure to place an internal brace -- called an Achilles "speed bridge" -- on Rodgers' fully torn left Achilles, which he ruptured just four snaps into Monday's game against the Bills. While there are no guarantees, the speed bridge protects the repair and opens up the possibility of an earlier return, sources say.
It's a relatively new process designed to have an athlete fully recovered in as little as four months from what is normally a season-ending injury, per sources informed of the procedure. It also could potentially give Rodgers at least a shot to be ready to return in mid-January, right around the start of the playoffs if the Jets qualify for the postseason.
Rodgers might also receive platelet-rich plasma injections, similar to what Lakers star Kobe Bryant -- who had ElAttrache repair his Achilles in 2013 -- famously received in Germany for a knee injury. There are other players in the NFL who have undergo similar procedures, including Russell Wilson last year. continue
Ground breaking injection is something he'd try.
@lovepack posted:Ground breaking injection is something he'd try.
I would guess he will sit down with his family and discus what will be the best way to go.
You are going to Hell.
@ilcuqui posted:Credit to NFLN’s Albert Breer on this one… Rams RB Cam Akers suffered an Achilles tear, and played six months later.
I wouldn’t be surprised if AR tries to beat that, somehow. Slim slim chance, yes, but if the Jets play into late January…
In a related note, I don’t believe Rodgers has been put on season ending IR yet. It will be interesting to see what they do, especially if Mister Don’t Bet Against Me is telling Joe Douglas to hold off.
What was Akers then? 22? Not seeing that apply to a 40 year old. On the other hand Rodgers’ position doesn’t require a high level of explosive athletic movements.
@Goalline posted:On the other hand Rodgers’ position doesn’t require a high level of explosive athletic movements.
I keep hearing people say this. QBs aren't doing it every play but when they need to extend the play or escape the pass rusher that broke free they need every bit of explosion they can get out of their legs.
Rodgers is 6'2. Part of his game is using his movement to open up throwing lanes or escape sudden pressure. Tenths of a second change everything.
Haha. Speed bridge new and innovative my ass. Been around for at least 10 years now.
@PackerBackerDPM posted:Haha. Speed bridge new and innovative my ass. Been around for at least 10 years now.
Does it depend on the type of tear if they can use a speed bridge or not? Seems after 10 years it would just be standard.
I am not sure how to post pictures but the Arthrex website would have info. Basically all that is different is it allows the surgeon to criss cross the suture (in this case the speed tape is what they call it) and supposed to fortify the repair. Personally I don’t care for it as the tape to me always pulled through the tendon. I guess I’ve always preferred Styler and Wright which Stryker bought about a year or two ago. The original use for the speed bridge was in rotator cuff repairs.
I’d be willing to bet it was more complicated than he is letting one simply because of the retraction. I’m convinced they had to do a tendon transfer as well.
I am not sure how to post pictures but the Arthrex website would have info.
To post an image already on the web, use the insert/edit image button two to the left of the emoticons or immediately to the right of the remove links button, and put in the URL in the appropriate box.
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@PackerBackerDPM posted:Haha. Speed bridge new and innovative my ass. Been around for at least 10 years now.
What about the Platelet/Plasma injections?? I'm assuming that's newer like within 5 years or so?
Also....here's some reactions to Zach's 3 INTs in 4th Quarter
@Fedya posted:I am not sure how to post pictures but the Arthrex website would have info.
To post an image already on the web, use the insert/edit image button two to the left of the emoticons or immediately to the right of the remove links button, and put in the URL in the appropriate box.
For an image on your hard drive, use the "add attachments" link below the reply box.
I usually just copy and paste, I do it with with my Iphone
PRP been around a while too Boss. I remember coming out during my residency 15 years ago. For most insurance won’t cover it thankfully that isn’t and issue for AR8.
originally we were sold it was going to revolutionize wound care. Take a crappy diabetic and spin their blood into the various components and you are still re injecting blood from an unhealthy individuals. Again should not be a concern here with him but overall I’d say reality are mixed. Maybe at best shaves a couple weeks.
@Boris posted:What about the Platelet/Plasma injections?? I'm assuming that's newer like within 5 years or so?
Also....here's some reactions to Zach's 3 INTs in 4th Quarter
Does platelet plasma really repair tendon? I’m no Dr, but I can understand how it would help with soft tissue where there is blood flow, but tendons? I think you need those sweet 3rd word fetus stem cells for actual repair.
Maybe just inject some covid vaccine
So, In other words.....we most likely won't see Rodgers until Sept 2024 at the very earliest.
Honestly, if Zach Wilson turns into a good QB and gets the Jets into the playoffs. I can't imagine them benching him for a rusty probably not ready Aaron Rodgers
What did Mannimg do for his neck? Didn’t he leave the country for stem cells? I would expect Rodgers does, but he will hide it better.
“I went to Bangkok for the sex tourism!!!”
