The New York Jets announced the signing of former Wisconsin wide receiver Alex Erickson yesterday.
The Wisconsin Badger from 2013-2015 had spent 2022 with the Washington Commanders after playing five of his first six NFL seasons in Cincinnati.
1:33 You've obviously coached against Aaron and seen what he did in the red zone against you a couple times, so to now see it for you what goes through your mind; whether it was the pass to Conklin, Hardman, Davis...?
Saleh: "Yeah, um, for the record, I would like to say we got the better of him. [pauses and looks into the camera] That's right, Aaron, we got the better of you. Except for Covid Year, doesn't count."
Saleh is going to find out Rodgers makes the jokes, not the other way around. You don't feed your ego at his expense. I'm sure Rodgers will just forget about that and not think he was playing at a disadvantage last year without Davante. 
Let's go back and see what Rodgers thought of that Jets game at the time. Didn't sound like he thought the Jets got the better of him, sounds like he thinks they needed to simplify things because some of the young guys weren't up to speed.
If I remember correctly, our o-line got "rag-dolled" by Jets d-front that game.
My impression of the game was the Jets simply wanted it more. It's an overused and tired cliché that sometimes is apt.
Jets also came into that game with a head of steam.
Packers kind of came in as a steaming pile.
It's getting interesting rather quickly, isn't it? If he's already mentioning in public about repeated mistakes, imagine the complaining he's doing with his trusted groupies he brought with him. If that keeps up, it won't be long before the cracks start to show. The badly underthrown pass in practice the other day looked like one of those Detroit game throws: nice spiral, but three or four yards short. There's times when his arm just isn't what it used to be; it's a 39-year-old arm with a lot of throws on it.
@Fandame posted:Father Time hasn't lost a player yet.
Brady made him sweat though.
Since defenses aren't allowed to tackle the QB anymore, I see plenty of QBs playing well into their 40s moving forward.
I respectfully don’t see it the same. Brady put in an inordinate amount of work (and I imagine "supplements") to keep his body in shape and played the perfect pocket style to extend his career.
He also kept winning. If Rodgers carried the Packers to victory in Brady's 3 int NFC championship game that might have been the nail in the coffin for Brady's career.
Rodgers has a chance to be the 4th 40+ QB to do it, but Favre and Brees broke down all at once and then that was it. They don't get rag dolled like the old days, but getting taken to the ground by the best athletes in the world is going to take it's toll on any 40 year old body. Rodgers needs to change his style, he's smart enough to do it, but heretofore he's been too prideful and stubborn to embrace the Brady way.
If he stays true to form, he's going to hold it too long on too many plays, be another step slower, take more swats to his arm and more twists to his legs. He said he's given up alcohol (in his ESPN NY interview) and seems slimmed down this year. Maybe he's hoping to regain some quickness, but good luck with that. 40 is 40 when it comes to burst.
I'm worried most about 8 passing the 65% playing time threshold when the Jets go to Denver. Sean Payton seemed real comfortable with that Saints defense burying Favre before the whistle and after, I'd expect Rodgers to get the same treatment. Best path for Denver to get a playoff spot is knocking the Jets off the WC slot. They'll have a tough time chasing down the Chiefs.
@titmfatied posted:I respectfully don’t see it the same. Brady put in an inordinate amount of work (and I imagine "supplements") to keep his body in shape and played the perfect pocket style to extend his career.
He also kept winning. If Rodgers carried the Packers to victory in Brady's 3 int NFC championship game that might have been the nail in the coffin for Brady's career.
Rodgers has a chance to be the 4th 40+ QB to do it, but Favre and Brees broke down all at once and then that was it. They don't get rag dolled like the old days, but getting taken to the ground by the best athletes in the world is going to take it's toll on any 40 year old body. Rodgers needs to change his style, he's smart enough to do it, but heretofore he's been too prideful and stubborn to embrace the Brady way.
If he stays true to form.......
First off, my comment wasn't entirely serious although I think there will be a trend of elite QBs playing into their 40s (because of the rules).
That said, I'm NOT referring to QBs winning a SB in the 40s. I'm merely talking about playing/starting. The rules will make it more possible now and moving forward than any time in the past. The NFL knows it's a QB league and a passing league. Gotta keep the stars upright and on the field.
I fully agree up to about 38-39. 40+ is going to be a once in a generation player. The only reason to pay the freight for one is to make a run at the Super Bowl. I'm trying to think of the next crop after Rodgers. Won't be Stafford, Wilson, or Cousins. It's going to be another decade before Mahomes is close.
@Goalline posted:Brady made him sweat though.
Brady could come out of retirement tomorrow and still be a top 10 QB this year.
@MichiganPacker posted:Brady could come out of retirement tomorrow and still be a top 10 QB this year.
You just made him sweat again.😊
@PackLandVA posted:First off, my comment wasn't entirely serious although I think there will be a trend of elite QBs playing into their 40s (because of the rules).
That said, I'm NOT referring to QBs winning a SB in the 40s. I'm merely talking about playing/starting. The rules will make it more possible now and moving forward than any time in the past. The NFL knows it's a QB league and a passing league. Gotta keep the stars upright and on the field.
It's not just the physical part of it. Obviously, if you don't get hit your knees, shoulders, etc. are in much better shape. But the big thing that doesn't happen now is guys getting spooked after the accumulation of hits for 15 years. They can now drop back without the fear of being lit up and driven into the turf. It was bad enough for a 25 year old to experience it, but at 35-40 the accumulation of that became an issue.
The last year of Favre's career with the Vikings, he just would curl up in a ball when the rush started to get to him. If Favre had been born 15 years later, he'd have played until he was 45 too. He would still have thrown 20 interceptions a year, but he would have tried to keep playing.
Lynn Dickey might have been a HOFer with the new rules.
Kazoo reworks his deal with the J-E-T-S, a 2 year fully guaranteed $75 million, taking a $33.7 million cut from what he was still owed on his Packers contract.
He never did that in Green Bay. He had to be the highest paid QB in NFL history, instead. If he’d taken less money, we might have kept Adams.
Dick.
@Fandame posted:It's getting interesting rather quickly, isn't it? If he's already mentioning in public about repeated mistakes, imagine the complaining he's doing with his trusted groupies he brought with him. If that keeps up, it won't be long before the cracks start to show. The badly underthrown pass in practice the other day looked like one of those Detroit game throws: nice spiral, but three or four yards short. There's times when his arm just isn't what it used to be; it's a 39-year-old arm with a lot of throws on it.
I won't be surprised if he plays well for the entire season off adrenaline alone. He definitely has every bit of #4's "just bet against me" when it comes to proving people wrong. Your comment does remind me of his shift in the way he throws the ball the past 3-4 years. Whether it's an effort to save his arm, or something else, he definitely became far more focused on touch throws and dropping balls in to wrs than previously in his career. Like a dart thrower who would rather finesse to a spot than draw a straight line and wing it.
What irked me last year was his belief that he could do similar on outlet throws, that targets should just stand there and wait while he waited until the last minute. Even when he completed those balls, many times his target was no longer in position to make plays. It seemed to be a shift in his decision making, almost like "fine, I'll throw it to Dillon" once no other option presented itself. It led to quite a few pointless completions. It also caused far more inaccuracy than we'd ever seen during his career.
He has yet another young team around him, so maybe he can get away with that type of football this year. If the guys are onboard, they will win some games. But it's also been a good while since he put a team on his shoulders in a big spot. That to me is where his age will rear its head, when it counts.
@lambeausouth posted:Kazoo reworks his deal with the J-E-T-S, a 2 year fully guaranteed $75 million, taking a $33.7 million cut from what he was still owed on his Packers contract.
He never did that in Green Bay. He had to be the highest paid QB in NFL history, instead. If he’d taken less money, we might have kept Adams.
Dick.
Did they ever ask him to?
@artis posted:I won't be surprised if he plays well for the entire season off adrenaline alone. He definitely has every bit of #4's "just bet against me" when it comes to proving people wrong. Your comment does remind me of his shift in the way he throws the ball the past 3-4 years. Whether it's an effort to save his arm, or something else, he definitely became far more focused on touch throws and dropping balls in to wrs than previously in his career. Like a dart thrower who would rather finesse to a spot than draw a straight line and wing it.
What irked me last year was his belief that he could do similar on outlet throws, that targets should just stand there and wait while he waited until the last minute. Even when he completed those balls, many times his target was no longer in position to make plays. It seemed to be a shift in his decision making, almost like "fine, I'll throw it to Dillon" once no other option presented itself. It led to quite a few pointless completions. It also caused far more inaccuracy than we'd ever seen during his career.
He has yet another young team around him, so maybe he can get away with that type of football this year. If the guys are onboard, they will win some games. But it's also been a good while since he put a team on his shoulders in a big spot. That to me is where his age will rear its head, when it counts.
Dude is not a self starter. He always had his best years in the face of criticism, or as a reason to show someone up. This year will be no different , but as usual it will be all about him. Can’t win a championship that way. To Aaron I say, BYE FELICIA!
@Chongo posted:Did they ever ask him to?
I'm guessing Gute wasn't smart enough to actually ask him. I'm fine with him being gone but not so sure Gute shouldnt be next.
I was more than surprised at the discount he gave the Jets on his contract.
I think he wanted to always be a Packer and he may have gave GB the same discounts had it not been for the drafting of Love and the rift with Gutekunst. No one will ever know for sure but I think Gutekunst ruined any chance of 12 considering such offers in GB
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The season is already rigged. We’ll be ending up in the same position in our division as the Jets in their respective division. The NFL wants Rodgers to return to Lambeau next year for TV ratings and that will happen if the Packers and Jets both finish in the same position. So if the Jets win the AFC East, the Packers are winning the North. If Jets finish 4th in the East, so will the Packers in the North. Screenshot this, place your bets, and thank me later.
@Chongo posted:Did they ever ask him to?
Did the Jets ask him? No! He volunteered!
So Rodgers goes to OTA's and takes a team friendly deal to go all in *now*? Fuck that guy.
@Goalline posted:Dude is not a self starter. He always had his best years in the face of criticism, or as a reason to show someone up. This year will be no different , but as usual it will be all about him. Can’t win a championship that way. To Aaron I say, BYE FELICIA!
I'm hard pressed to believe another ring is that important to him. It's easy to say and easy for fans to buy in, but he's had a good bit of "oh well" in his demeanor in the last couple playoff exits and especially the loss at home to qualify last year. I'm glad we are turning the page as well.
Some folks have been squawking about this for 5 years. They were told this wasn’t a thing. Hmmm! Apparently , it’s a thing when he’s in New York.
If only he had shown this level of commitment in GB.
@lambeausouth posted:Kazoo reworks his deal with the J-E-T-S, a 2 year fully guaranteed $75 million, taking a $33.7 million cut from what he was still owed on his Packers contract.
He never did that in Green Bay. He had to be the highest paid QB in NFL history, instead. If he’d taken less money, we might have kept Adams.
Dick.
A. Adams wanted out. You can say the Packers screwed up negotiations with him prior to last offseason, but Rodgers' money had nothing to do with it.
B. Just like Brady, this isn't a pay cut. Remember there were a couple of shenanigans years on his old contract, as well. He got about $100 guaranteed at signing with $150-ish million guaranteed spread over "five years". Now it's $75 over two with simple void years added.
This is just cap maeuvering.
@Herschel posted:A. Adams wanted out. You can say the Packers screwed up negotiations with him prior to last offseason, but Rodgers' money had nothing to do with it.
B. Just like Brady, this isn't a pay cut. Remember there were a couple of shenanigans years on his old contract, as well. He got about $100 guaranteed at signing with $150-ish million guaranteed spread over "five years". Now it's $75 over two with simple void years added.
This is just cap maeuvering.
I think you are wrong on this. It is my understanding that he was due to receive over 100 mil in guaranteed money over the next 2 years but he took pay cuts both years to go “all in”.
@Herschel posted:Maybe he finally found a team actually willing to go "all in".
So, he went to Gute to offer a pay cut and Gute told him, “Nah, we don’t want to sign any more players”? Got it!
@Goalline posted:Some folks have been squawking about this for 5 years. They were told this wasn’t a thing. Hmmm! Apparently , it’s a thing when he’s in New York.
If only he had shown this level of commitment in GB.
Good chance he would have showed this level of commitment if GB had a competent GM.
@Herschel posted:Maybe he finally found a team actually willing to go "all in".
Exactly!