Adrian Peterson - indictment for child abuse/neglect

I had soap put in my mouth once - that was NASTY!!!

Do they even make bar soap any more?

Does Ray-Ray get the same considerations?  Maybe he grew up watching his mama get her ass whooped.  Tough to break the cycle?  

2 separate incidents. Both disgusting standing on their own. Don't think we should blur the lines between the 2 lest we lose focus on each incident.

I don't necessarily disagree... Both incidents are very, very wrong...however, on the scale of disgusting, I think beating down a 4 year old child with a stick is worse than knocking out Janay-nay.  

Not great choices for "what's worse". But beating an innocent 4 year old is pretty much as bad as it get's. 

Saw a pointed response in a really heated "is this discipline or abuse" comment section yesterday. 

"If Adrian Peterson stuffs leaves into his 20 year old son's mouth and then whips him with a tree branch, at the very least it's aggravated assault and probably worse. He does it to his 4 year old son it's discipline"

When the skin is broken, it's child abuse.

Now Dayton wants the Vikings to suspend AP. 

Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away
Now it looks as though they're here to stay
oh, I believe in yesterday

why did Zygi where Groucho glasses for this?

Is that the stadium ground breaking or are they shoveling sh!t?

Since Peterson was disciplining his son(s), does that mean Ray Rice was disciplining his fiance'? 

My Dad hit me once on the ass with a razor strap.....once. Thats all it took..I tried to block the next one with my hands...bad mistake...

I'm glad that dip**** woman is getting her mug known nationwide for being such an azz.

Is there a difference?

 Are you sure that aint Zygi's kid? Put a 'stache on her and they're dead ringers.

If Zygi was 75 years younger he'd have that Mr Potato head of his on a swivel. 

Absolutely. To me that is the simplest way of breaking this down. I'm not at all saying bruises don't or shouldn't constitute child abuse, but for those that claim this is merely an instance of "discipline" I don't think skin should ever be broken through the course of "discipline". If you're hitting a kid hard enough to break skin then you're not "disciplining", you're assaulting. To me this shouldn't be an issue or disagreement about parenting/discipline styles or cultural background, to me it boils down to broken skin. 

And I'm not saying that as a Packer fan that hates Adrian Peterson. I actually thought Peterson was a decent guy, he kept his head down, he didn't cause problems, and he played his butt off. I actually always felt sorry for him that he's one of, if not the greatest player of his generation and he's been stuck with such a sorry excuse for an organization. I dislike him on a personal level now and any ounce of respect I had for the Vikings organization as a rival is gone now. 

I don't care if skin is broken or not. He struck this child in his balls. Do you need for the skin to break for that to be excessive?

Let me take a tree branch to your balls. Just once. Hey look!! The skin didn't break. Feel better?

I agree with you. I didn't say a lack of broken skin didn't or shouldn't constitute abuse, I'm just saying for the people that defend this as a parents right to discipline their kids as they see fit or as a cultural issue, the aspect of broken skin can't be argued with. I've been hit with a switch before, it takes a hard hit to break the skin. 

It's a cultural thing, you wouldn't understand.

"My mama was beat down when she got mouthy and she turned out just fine."

Bottom line is AP has the financial resources available to him to hire the best round-the-clock Nanny's for everyone of his "4 year olds". If he lacks the ability/knowledge to know how to look after his children, he can easily hire those that do.

Absentee parenting? Hell, the rich have done it for generations. It'd still be better then what his version of disciplining is.

Not every 'queens fan is an asshole.

And this. RT @APkrawczynski: eye-opening development: Nike stores in Twin Cities have pulled all Adrian Peterson merch from shelves.

Awesome. The only way the NFL will find it's morals is when they feel the coin purse getting lighter. Gebins to Nike/Raddison.

The team's official store, however, not so much.

http://www.vikingsfanshop.com/...oduct_list&c=514

Throw in Anheseur-Busch as well.....

This is going to get really interesting the next couple of days.  

Anheuser-Busch: "We have shared our concerns and expectations with the league." Translation: "We write an awfully big check."

There's the issue and there's how you respond to the issue.  The Vikings and Goodell are starting to realize the importance of the second part.

I have to be THAT guy...wonder how much of that is Nike also trying to keep assholes like the broad listed above from trying to make a funny out of this?

Agreed, or Nike sees this as a major story, and it doesn't hurt to get a little positive free PR, when in reality they are doing very little.  A little is more than nothing, so at least it's moving in the right direction.  

Nike doesn't want any discipline method replacing a shoe to a kid's ass. 

How do the Vikings get themselves out of this?

They can't announce they've reconsidered. They just announced they feel what happened was discipline. The GM said the organization feels this way. They publicly stated they were aware of the second incident. AP is on the practice field today. 

I have to think the Vikings hope all along was that they would force the NFL to suspend him. But now the Vikings as an organization are completely and utterly ****ed unless Goodell steps in and suspends Peterson. And I don't know for certain that Goodell has the stones or support to make that call. Especially now that Nike and Busch is getting involved. Goodell is going to take another PR bloodbath that the only reason he did anything was to save corporate profits. 

****. If Goodell announces his resignation this afternoon I wouldn't be surprised. This is an epic fail of leadership the likes I've never seen.  

I've been reading the Star-Tribune to see how they are covering it...Jim Souhan lambasted the organization today.  Reading the comments attached to the article, many Viking fans are hoping the Saints beat the crap out of Peterson this weekend.  Never thought I would agree with a Vikes fan....!

The Vikings could definitely announce that they have reconsidered.  Organizations do it all the time.  All they need to do is issue a press release stating that more facts have come to light, and as a result they will suspend AP indefinitely.

The NFL could also try to stop its own bleeding by doing the same.

It's the local Nike stores. Nike Corporate might look a little hypocritical if they started taking up the cause of child welfare with their own manufacturing processes.

Nike is pretty cool with kids working in sweatshops...but they take the moral highground when they can get some good press out of it

many Viking fans are hoping the Saints beat the crap out of Peterson this weekend.

it will be interesting.  any player with a 4 y/o that he adores could very well be looking to give AP the what's for.  I've got a bonus for any Saints player that can make AP feel the same pain he doled out to his...  would it be Son Peterson?  (ya know, like his kid calls him Daddy Peterson)  

It's "Petersonson".

And then there's this:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...se-sponsor/15726217/

"We are disappointed and increasingly concerned by the recent incidents that have overshadowed this NFL season. We are not yet satisfied with the league's handling of behaviors that so clearly go against our own company culture and moral code. We have shared our concerns and expectations with the league."