But if he had played at Tennesee.........
...he'd probably be in jail.
Wake me when the preseason MVP does anything against a legit D in the regular season.
Wake me when the preseason MVP does anything against a legit D in the regular season.
why do I have to wake you up?
quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:
Should they start working on Russell's HOF bust right now?
Maybe they could just use the bust that was already being whittled for Flynn?
Looks like Wilson will make the Seahags. T-Jack reportedly sent to the Bills.
http://tracking.si.com/2012/08...t=hp_t2_a5&eref=sihp
And no we do not want Vince Young as a vetern back-up to A Rod.
http://tracking.si.com/2012/08...t=hp_t2_a5&eref=sihp
And no we do not want Vince Young as a vetern back-up to A Rod.
quote:Originally posted by Boris:
Obviously Seattle isn't going to release him. That's an asinine statement.
Flynn has already paid his dues as a backup. He isn't going to accept a backup role this year. At least not to start the season anyway. If Flynn plays himself out of the starting job, that's different. I fully expect Flynn to start from week #1.
Wrong.
Wilson named starter
wow...I wonder how many 3rd round QBs have gone on to start week 1 of their first season
Whatcha know? He is scheduled to start the opener. Good for him.
In all seriousness for him to come in as a third round pick and beat out a free agent signing that they had to have thought would be their QB of the future says wonders about how well he performed this training camp and how well he played on the field. Congrats Russell!
Going to be a very fun story to follow.
Going to be a very fun story to follow.
...or it says a lot about how they evaluate talent in Seattle.
quote:Originally posted by Tschmack:
Wilson's senior year at Wisconsin was as good if not better than any of Brees years at Purdue especially when you look at completion percentage and rushing yardage. Brees may have thrown for more yards but he also threw more picks and Purdue didn't have any running game whatsoever.
When I say he's no Drew Brees of course I'm talking about at the NFL level. College is over and anything you did there means nothing after you are drafted. Guys like Brees, Brady, Rodgers and Manning don't enter the league every year. If they did the league would be littered with elite QB's.
His floor is probably career backup and spot starter. His ceiling? I don't know but I really doubt it's Drew Brees. I just hope Pete Carroll and Matt Flynn don't totally **** up our compensatory pick in 2013.
He should. It's all he's good at.
He had one good game by imitating Rodgers. He's nothing without the system.
It is at once awesome and hilarious. You got to love Mike McCarthy on this.
(Pay up Flynn, you owe me money.)
He had one good game by imitating Rodgers. He's nothing without the system.
It is at once awesome and hilarious. You got to love Mike McCarthy on this.
(Pay up Flynn, you owe me money.)
The Jets Jets Jets need a starting QB and a back up QB too.
As do the Cardinals, but with T-Joke shipped out Flynn won't be going anywhere methinks. It would be kind of funny if Schneider actually received a decent pick for Flynn in a trade though after what a lot of us speculated this offseason.
Source: The Seattle Times - Danny O'Neil
Seattle Seahawks QBs Matt Flynn and Tarvaris Jackson have lost out in the battle for the starting quarterback job to QB Russell Wilson, according to head coach Pete Carroll. '(Flynn's) disappointed,' Carroll said. 'Matt came here to be the starter, and he took it exactly the way I think a competitor would.'
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Friggin hilarious. Leave Green Bay for that joke of an organization.
Wilson will probably get hurt by the end of September and Flynn will be starting
Seattle Seahawks QBs Matt Flynn and Tarvaris Jackson have lost out in the battle for the starting quarterback job to QB Russell Wilson, according to head coach Pete Carroll. '(Flynn's) disappointed,' Carroll said. 'Matt came here to be the starter, and he took it exactly the way I think a competitor would.'
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Friggin hilarious. Leave Green Bay for that joke of an organization.
Wilson will probably get hurt by the end of September and Flynn will be starting
Flynn has no trade value right now. He lost out to a rookie. He has to play and play well gain value.
quote:Originally posted by Green Crustacean:
Flynn has no trade value right now. He lost out to a rookie. He has to play and play well gain value.
Play is the key word. He hasn't even done that yet.
For everyone up in arms about this. It became clear when Miami didn't sign him. If the Hags are a joke, then it is because of the money spent on Flynn. Not on Wilson beating him out fair and square.
I'm gonna enjoy watching this play out.
Seneca Wilson should have an interesting go of it in Seattle.
He did play behind an NFL sized OL at sconnie
He did play behind an NFL sized OL at sconnie
It's quite possible that Carroll is wrong.
quote:Originally posted by chickenboy:quote:Originally posted by Green Crustacean:
Flynn has no trade value right now. He lost out to a rookie. He has to play and play well gain value.
It became clear when Miami didn't sign him.
Stephen Ross decided to trade his best receiver (Brandon Marshall) in the offseason. Then he threw everything he had at Peyton Manning and left a blank check at the front desk for Jeff Fisher. He landed neither. Prior to the draft he told anyone that would listen he was taking Ryan Tannehill with the 8th pick.
To say anything related to Matt Flynn "became clear when Miami didn't sign him" assumes Joe Philbin had any semblance of say on the matter. He didn't. He still doesn't. It also assumes Stephen Ross is a good evaluator of talent. He isn't. He never will be. I'm positive Joe Philbin wishes he was anywhere other then Miami right now.
quote:Originally posted by ChilliJon: To say anything related to Matt Flynn "became clear when Miami didn't sign him" assumes Joe Philbin had any semblance of say on the matter. He didn't. He still doesn't. It also assumes Stephen Ross is a good evaluator of talent. He isn't. He never will be. I'm positive Joe Philbin wishes he was anywhere other then Miami right now.
Just to be fair, it seems you are making an assumption about my assumption.
quote:Originally posted by Iowacheese:
Seneca Wilson should have an interesting go of it in Seattle.
Not taking anything away from Wilson because he clearly earned the job, but Flynn should be starting. History has proven time and time again that inserting a rookie QB when you have a questionable supporting cast is a recipe for ruining that rookie QB. Their OLine gave up 50 sacks last season in 16 games, Wisconsin gave up 25 in 14 games, Wilson isn't going to have the same amount of time to do what he does and he's going to get hit, A LOT. They would be better off throwing Flynn out there because he's a more than competent QB and let Wilson develop. In the mean time work on improving that OLine and get some receivers. I don't care how much like Drew Brees some think he is, Drew Brees wouldn't have the success he's had without a great supporting cast, same for Rodgers and Brady and Manning. Wilson has a bad OLine and some ho hum receivers to work with. But I guess he has Beast Mode running the ball so they instantly get a ton of respect points.
quote:Not taking anything away from Wilson because he clearly earned the job, but Flynn should be starting.
Makes sense.
I was pulling for both as I’m sure most Pack/Badger fans were, but feel for Flynn. But in all that I’ve seen and read, Wilson far outplayed him so far. His YPA was nearly 3x that of Flynn, who seemed content to dink and dunk.
This being Carroll and Seattle, I’m sure the starter will change at least two more times over the season, but tough to argue against Wilson at this point. Hell if he was an inch taller, he’s a first round pick and no one’s even questioning this move.
I just love that this opens the discussion back up for Rodgers being a system QB for outside idiots. I can only imagine the 3 inch pants tent under Skip Bayless’ desk today.
This being Carroll and Seattle, I’m sure the starter will change at least two more times over the season, but tough to argue against Wilson at this point. Hell if he was an inch taller, he’s a first round pick and no one’s even questioning this move.
I just love that this opens the discussion back up for Rodgers being a system QB for outside idiots. I can only imagine the 3 inch pants tent under Skip Bayless’ desk today.
it's known as a pants cave with clueless.
quote:Originally posted by chickenboy:quote:Originally posted by Green Crustacean:
Flynn has no trade value right now. He lost out to a rookie. He has to play and play well gain value.
Play is the key word. He hasn't even done that yet.
For everyone up in arms about this. It became clear when Miami didn't sign him. If the Hags are a joke, then it is because of the money spent on Flynn. Not on Wilson beating him out fair and square.
Every once in a blue moon your comments make sense. Good post.
quote:Originally posted by Pakrz:quote:Not taking anything away from Wilson because he clearly earned the job, but Flynn should be starting.
Makes sense.
quote:Every once in a blue moon your comments make sense. Good post.
Great, now we have to endure another 18,757 posts till the next one.
Russell Wilson won the World Series of Poker using Pokemon cards.
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does that make him more or less admirable?
quote:Originally posted by Pakrz:quote:Not taking anything away from Wilson because he clearly earned the job, but Flynn should be starting.
Makes sense.
Touche. Should say that Wilson has clearly played well. He has earned the chance to play maybe even start, but the point was that starting a rookie when you have a crappy team will hinder or kill his development (see David Carr). If you are truly a fan of Russell Wilson then you would want him to sit and develop while Flynn gets thrown to the wolves. Guess I'm the only true Wilson fan here.
Chuck Norris wants to be like Russell Wilson.
Russell Wilson hurt Matt Flynn's elbow on purpose and Matt thanked him for it
quote:Originally posted by Grave Digger:quote:Originally posted by Pakrz:quote:Not taking anything away from Wilson because he clearly earned the job, but Flynn should be starting.
Makes sense.
Touche. Should say that Wilson has clearly played well. He has earned the chance to play maybe even start, but the point was that starting a rookie when you have a crappy team will hinder or kill his development (see David Carr). If you are truly a fan of Russell Wilson then you would want him to sit and develop while Flynn gets thrown to the wolves. Guess I'm the only true Wilson fan here.
I don't think that's necessarily true, but I hear you. There are examples of rookie quarterbacks that started out of the gate and turned out to be pretty good too though. From the little I've seen of Wilson at UW and Seattle, he looks to be pretty poised and in control for a young guy.