Who is panicing? Vikes need to get a big name to renew fan support and get new stadium.
I do recall three Super Bowl appearances and two wins.
Anyway, all this rumor is based upon is the NFL Network special on him and him leaving the door open at the end of it and the Wilf's Jersey connection.
His resume with amazing and quick rebuilding projects (see NE, NY, Dallas and Miami) is impressive but I would be hesitant to hitch my wagon to him unless he brought an assistant with him to take over when he decides to bail. Which he will do sooner than later.
Anyway, all this rumor is based upon is the NFL Network special on him and him leaving the door open at the end of it and the Wilf's Jersey connection.
His resume with amazing and quick rebuilding projects (see NE, NY, Dallas and Miami) is impressive but I would be hesitant to hitch my wagon to him unless he brought an assistant with him to take over when he decides to bail. Which he will do sooner than later.
Just checking to ensure I have the pulse of the community. I know some are concerned that Frazier is taking over and is "competent" apparently? And I kinda figured a la shiny running backs on other teams, once good GM/Coach types are likely an area some will be freaking out about soon.
I hear Rick's Tally-Ho is hiring.
Parcells knows NFL talent, but he hasn't gone to the Super Bowl since 1996 when the Packers sent his Patriots home without a ring. That said, he will be an upgrade from what they have now.
My only question is, if you're Parcells, why do you come to Minnesota? Their Super Bowl window is all but closed and there is little young talent to build around in the long-term. This is a veteran team built to win now and they didn't. There is no QB for the future, no stadium deal and this team hasn't operated with a formal GM since I can remember. Usually these Super Bowl winning ex-coaches get to wait around until the perfect situation comes up. This situation is far from perfect, so what makes Parcells take this job?
My only question is, if you're Parcells, why do you come to Minnesota? Their Super Bowl window is all but closed and there is little young talent to build around in the long-term. This is a veteran team built to win now and they didn't. There is no QB for the future, no stadium deal and this team hasn't operated with a formal GM since I can remember. Usually these Super Bowl winning ex-coaches get to wait around until the perfect situation comes up. This situation is far from perfect, so what makes Parcells take this job?
Parcells ruled out coming to Minnie when he said "that's not where we are right now. that's for sure. I can't stand morons with blonde pig tails."
quote:Originally posted by CUPackFan:
This situation is far from perfect, so what makes Parcells take this job?
The Ultimate Challenge is to overcome decades of epic choking... and then he would be considered the greatest coach in NFL history
When they disassemble the team as the start of the rebuilding process, we need to pressure TT to cough up a 4th rounder for Peterson.
A fourth would be more like a fifth so they need to offer a third which is too much. Maybe offer Flynn which is like a 1st which is more like a second which means you need to add more which he won't.
I'm not sure Frazier automatically benches bert.
Remember he is basically auditioning for the job.
As bad as bert has been he is still better than TJ IMO.
I wonder if Frazier tells him he keeps the job as long as he runs a tight offense---limited audibles, and that the offense will be run AP---like 30 times a game.
I figure that would give the vikes the best chance of winning. Zig can't tell him to tank the season and play for a high draft choice. He still has the stadium issuse and he needs to throw the fans a bone---hope for next season.
Also, if I were Frazier, the first time bert screws me or the team, on the field or with the media, I would exact my revenge. The following week Bert would still be the starter, up until the very second the offense had to take the field. (BTW I would absolutely love to see this happen.)
Remember he is basically auditioning for the job.
As bad as bert has been he is still better than TJ IMO.
I wonder if Frazier tells him he keeps the job as long as he runs a tight offense---limited audibles, and that the offense will be run AP---like 30 times a game.
I figure that would give the vikes the best chance of winning. Zig can't tell him to tank the season and play for a high draft choice. He still has the stadium issuse and he needs to throw the fans a bone---hope for next season.
Also, if I were Frazier, the first time bert screws me or the team, on the field or with the media, I would exact my revenge. The following week Bert would still be the starter, up until the very second the offense had to take the field. (BTW I would absolutely love to see this happen.)
quote:Originally posted by OkinawaMarine:
The wording of the presser is worrying a lot of Viking Fans....The original presser said Chilli was relieved of his coaching duties...WTF does that mean? As Winter Park turns! LMAO! What a side show!
It means Packer nation is in a state of mourning, my slow witted friend.
(Hope that spells it out for ya...door knob!
Its always funny hearing a marine speak of another's intelligence.
Its always funny hearing a marine speak of another's intelligence.
quote:Originally posted by OkinawaMarine:quote:Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
I have heard from at least two sources that this was coming before the Packer game, and Zygi was just waiting to see how this game played out. Rumblings inside the organization were that Chilly had "lost" this team, and that the "playoffs" were out of reach. There is more to this story that I can't tell you because my source asked me not to, but I will tell you that it is juicy.
Ka-Bong.....Ya can't leave me hangin like that!!!!! I need more!!!
You are the gift that keeps on giving.
I wonder if Wilf steps in and forces Favre to be benched. Any competent person looking at the long term future of the team would bench Favre. While Jackson is likely not the answer, you might as well use the rest of the season to determine with 100% certainty that Jackson needs to be replaced. Might even give the #3 guy a handful of snaps.
Regarding Parcells, a championship in Minnesota would definitely cement his legacy as one of the best ever. But he hasn't won a championship since the 80's. Seems odd that he would pick Minnesota as his project this late in his career, expecially with the way he walked away from Miami and Dallas (barely giving those teams a chance to win a championship).
Regarding Parcells, a championship in Minnesota would definitely cement his legacy as one of the best ever. But he hasn't won a championship since the 80's. Seems odd that he would pick Minnesota as his project this late in his career, expecially with the way he walked away from Miami and Dallas (barely giving those teams a chance to win a championship).
quote:Originally posted by pablopackerfan:
Baldinger just reported (he's a good friend of Fraziers) that Favre will be benched and or released and Webb will be named starter.
That makes sense. Everybody has been saying bench Favre and give Jackson a chance to see what he can do. But they already gave Jackson several starts before Favre got there and they know he's not the answer or Favre never would have been brought in.
Zig says no final straw, just best decision for the org
Zig says he has not spoken to bert and says Frazier is focused on "making the team rspond for rest of season."
TJack has already proven he isn't the guy and Webb is as green and they come. I also suppose they could run the table and sneak in at 9-7 (although highly unlikely). I don't see them benching or releasing Favre (unless he requests it) because he is the best chance they have to win.
quote:Frazier says favre is still the starter
They're doing well, 3-7 is quite a start. But, but, Favre beat us twice, last year!
Just what is Frazier gonna do? Make them wear jackets and ties on the team airplane?
Favre and his 24 or 25 turnovers are a HUGE part of why they are 3-7.
Favre's attitude and lockeroom schism creation is a HUGE part of why they are 3-7.
To not make benching Favre your first official task as head coach is an epic fail.
Why fire Chilly at all?
It doesn't take a HOF QB to hand off to AP 40 times per game, which is what any Vikes HC with half a brain should do.
Also...El-Ka-Bong's sources are reporting that Zygi is considering makeing contact with Packers DC Dan Compers about a possible move to MN next year.
Favre and his 24 or 25 turnovers are a HUGE part of why they are 3-7.
Favre's attitude and lockeroom schism creation is a HUGE part of why they are 3-7.
To not make benching Favre your first official task as head coach is an epic fail.
Why fire Chilly at all?
It doesn't take a HOF QB to hand off to AP 40 times per game, which is what any Vikes HC with half a brain should do.
Also...El-Ka-Bong's sources are reporting that Zygi is considering makeing contact with Packers DC Dan Compers about a possible move to MN next year.
quote:Originally posted by OkinawaMarine:quote:Originally posted by CAPackFan95:
Really? You're struggling with what "relieved of coaching duties" means?
Oh, nevermind you're a Vikings fan...
Ahhh a refreshing "shot in the rib cage"! Putz!
Relieved of coaching duties....doesn't say he won't be picking up or keeping other duties within the organization. Would have much rather seen the presser say F-I-R-E-D! (Hope that spells it out for ya...door knob!
Why, "sh1t-canned" a little harsh?
Doug Gottlieb blamed it all on Favre during his Favrespn telecast today. I wonder if he'll be canned for his comments. He said that Favre's antics were Chilly's demise and said tha Favre not coming to training camp is one of the biggest reasons they are where they are.
quote:Originally posted by FreeSafety:
To not make benching Favre your first official task as head coach is an epic fail.
We have rid the palace of the infidels ! Victory is ours !
quote:Originally posted by OkinawaMarine:
Ka-Bong.....Ya can't leave me hangin like that!!!!! I need more!!!
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the prosecution rests.
That all just shows that Favre is still capable of carrying a team on his shoulders! Even if they are going in the wrong direction...
quote:Fisher on the warm (not yet hot) seat.
No way Fisher takes on Favre. I do not think he was in favor of Moss being signed either.
quote:Originally posted by pablopackerfan:
Baldinger also reported that the Vikings were in control of the game with the lead and stuffing the Packers at the time of the Tramon Int.
Childress also brought that up in his presser right after the game.
Heard on the radio that Chilly said (after being informed he was fired) that he was leaving the Vikings in a lot better shape than when he came. (Yeah, right.)
Typical Minny logic. If they gave away midseason trophies and half time wins, they'd be unbeaten most years and defending super bowl champs.
I am reminded of an excellent article I read on Buddy Ryan when coaching the Eagles, realizing he never even got to the big game. He said the first thing he did was scan his roster and ask if he could win the SB with each player.
That being said, will the Vikings win the SB with Favre? No.
Therefore, I would cut him.
That being said, will the Vikings win the SB with Favre? No.
Therefore, I would cut him.
quote:Originally posted by Boris:
He'd be an upgrade in Tennessee or Arizona too.
Not so quick. Favre is either 31st or worse in QB rating. If he went to a team like Arizona, I think he would make Derek A look like an All Pro.
With pressure he is now a Turnover machine.
quote:Originally posted by TD:
If they gave away midseason trophies and half time wins, they'd be unbeaten most years and defending super bowl champs.
Ahh, but if they gave away midseason trophies and half wits, there would be no one left in the organization.
quote:Originally posted by Snoozebutton:quote:Originally posted by pablopackerfan:
Baldinger also reported that the Vikings were in control of the game with the lead and stuffing the Packers at the time of the Tramon Int.
Childress also brought that up in his presser right after the game.
So, Pack up 10 - 3 equates to Vikings in control with the lead? I guess he didn't watch the game (or is it me that wasn't paying attention?)
Even though I am a die-hard Packer fan, I don't want Favre anywhere near Glendale, AZ. He'd bring my property value down for sure! 
"Tony and I will be talking a lot"
Sincerely, Leslie Frazier
At least he's going to be classy!
Sincerely, Leslie Frazier
At least he's going to be classy!
"Now he belongs to the ages"
Right up there with Les Steckel and Mike Tice.