Did anyone see Bulaga get hurt & other injuries

From what I read, even a partial tear requires the same surgery as if he blew the ACL to bits. It does not regenerate itself or heal on it's own. Some speculated at the time he did it, it was partially torn and that's why he could continue to play but likely either tore it further or completely by the time he was done playing 30 snaps

You can walk around and even do some stuff with a torn ACL. My partner tore her ACL after jumping off a loading dock, got up and didn't even know it; she just knew "something felt wrong." That night when I did one of the knee tests it was obvious the ACL was gone, yet she ran around on it for two weeks with no crutches and no pain before surgery. My ACL was only partially there when I tore the rest of it and I'm not even sure how or when it happened, just that the stability had changed. And that's the real problem - instability. With a partial tear, if he moves wrong the whole thing can collapse and then it may not only be the ACL that goes, but a bunch of other stuff with it. 

I don't know if the Bulaga to LT would have cured the Oline, but this flat out sucks. Somewhere in the South Pacific a witch doctor is laughing again...

After a couple minutes of thought, perhaps this could get MM to call more running plays, screen plays, slants, etc. We used to be really successful doing that, and then we went away from it in favor of the downfield game. We may have to go back to those short, quick-hitters, and more runs to keep AR clean. MM and Capers were masterful at making adjustments in our last SB year, so let's see them do it again.

Apparently not....

Tyler Dunne     ‏@TyDunne         

RT @NewsHub  #BREAKING: #Packers diagnosis for Bryan Bulaga is as bad as feared, torn ACL, source tells @BobMcGinn. Details to come.

Unfortunately the free agent LT market isn't any better than what we have on the roster. I don't know if Bahktiari is ready for primetime or not, but right now he may be the best option at LT. Look at the combinations of what is available:

Option 1:

LT: Bahktiari

RT: Newhouse

Option 2:

LT: Newhouse

RT: Bahktiari

Option 3:

LT: Bahktiari

RT: Barclay

Option 4:

LT: Newhouse

RT: Bahktiari

To me we saw Option 3 (Newhouse/Barclay) last season and it was so-so. Newhouse at LT in general was so-so. And it's not unprecedented for the Packers to insert a rookie Tackle and have success, Bulaga was the rookie RT for the SB team. Perhaps, with some RB/FB/TE help, Bahktiari could handle the job for the season? Any thoughts on this?

Option one looks like the winner to me.

Option 3. As long as Bahktiari can continue to stone CM3 & Nick Perry, I'll be convinced. Barclay looked decent at RT last year. That's his spot. He's completely out of place at G or C.

I just don't trust Newhouse as anything other than a backup

Agree with B. Option 3.

Lets see if TT master plan has a chapter for these types of situations before a season in which GB was definitely a contender for the SB? How long do you keep not making trades, building through the draft and take care of the salary cap?

Ooops

Disagree with B and C.  Option 2. 

...I completely agree with this. Bahktiari was going to supplant Newhouse anyways, start him at LT & let Barclay & newhouse compete for RT.  

Two points:

No reason to get pissed at Sherrod, hopefully, that injury was brutal and by all accounts, he has tried everything in his power to make it back.  

Second, everything I have read is that the reason they flipped the line was because the RB's run better off LT.  So, flipping the line back is not realistic.  They'll roll with MN, and maybe the rook can give him a run in the competition.  Let's not forget MN has been in the league for 4 years, he can get better as well.  

Sounds like the Pack are gonna give Bak a real chance at the LT job.

Barclay struggled mightily in pass protection last year and there's a reason the coaches are grooming him to be the utility backup. The coaches want the best five on the field and I expect both  Bahktiari and Newhouse to start.

I hope Bahktiari doesn't get manhandled like his brother Baktari!

Barclay has also completely changed his body and still has a lot of upside left, unlike that stiff Newhouse, who is what he is - barely adequate and best-suited for the swing backup rolel where he can get you through a game or two.

Here are some free agents still out there if hell freezes over:

http://www.rotoworld.com/artic...nfl-free-agents?pg=2

Put the rookie in, sign another guy and then use Mulligan on the left side next to the new guy on every play.

Exactly who is going to trade the Packers a quality starting left tackle?  Any good tackle heading to free agency is signing with his team--only the ones without talent or on the decline hit free agency.  You want to fix your offensive line at the tackle position with long term quality, you draft that position.

Bottom line is that we drafted two tackles in the first round in the last 5 years.  We had every expectation they would be long term, quality starters.   Is it TT's fault that they both got hurt?

Yes.

And fat MM's fault.

Should have kept Sherman as GM and brought Sean Payton in as coach.

People joke about it but I'm telling you right now if you're running a NFL team without a serious yoga program, you're an idiot.

Adding guys like Mulligan, Lacey and getting Quarless back helps but it also puts a dent in your game planning.

Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt 1m Bryan Bulaga out for season, @packers announce. Teams plan depth charts for months; injuries alter them in a heartbeat.

Hope Buck Cherry is up to the task

Colts TE knows which way the wind blows.

You're arguing with a smurf.

On second thought...

Reason to try and remain calm. With Bulaga for 9 weeks LY GB gave up 29 sacks. 22 sacks without him. And we can't overlook the human speed bump at C for the first 14 weeks of LY either. Averaging 3 plus sacks/game is horrible. But it's not like the OL went off a cliff after Bulaga went down either. The numbers actually improved a bit.

I'm going to remain hopeful Bakhtiari can step in and handle LT and hold his own. Give him some help. I'm of the opinion an OL of Bak, Sitton, EDS, Lang, and Newhouse isn't any worse than the starting OL we watched for the first 9 weeks in 2012. Not a glowing endorsement. But maybe this forces MM to lean on the running game a little more than he would have until the re-shuffled OL gels a bit.

I know, I'm reaching....

Well, the game planning sure is going to change.  We may actually see more run looks because of it.  I imagine the vertical game is going to be trimmed down in favor or more quick 10 and 15 yard pass plays.

True story Henry. With today's athletes being faster and stronger, the ligaments, connective tissue, and muscles need even more flexibility than ever before. So often you see a blown out something with little or  no contact. It used to get blamed on artificial turf, and rightly so, but now there's guys 260 lbs. plus running like 180 lb. backs. Any type of additional strengthening and flexibility programs that can be used should be part of every teams' conditioning.  

Bo Jackson syndrome.  Definitely not comparing any of these guys to Jackson but the force of his own body/strength was as much to blame for his injury as anything.  Part of it is just the game and it's always been that way but there is a different dynamic with the modern athlete, be it artificially enhanced or not.

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People joke about it but I'm telling you right now if you're running a NFL team without a serious yoga program, you're an idiot.

"I'm going to tell you what several Packers players have received instruction in once a week for 45 minutes as part of their offseason workout regimen and you're not going to believe me."

That's not going to cut it.  It should be a minimum of 5 times a week for an hour.  Yoga also builds muscle groups you don't hit in the weight room.  It not only would increase flexibility but overall balance and quick twitch.  Yoga should be a part of camp every day.

We all know balance and quick twitch are worthless in football.

Until we see Bhuttafucco in a game, or simulated game (Pre-season), put me down for Option 2.  

As for Yoga, these guys should be doing Yoga, pilates, parkour, all of it.  Who wouldn't want to do yoga, when you see this?  

I tried yoga once.. It hurts. 

concur on the yoga, have said it before.

a friend loaned me the "10 best GBP games" DVD set last week.

I watched the 1983 MNF v deadskins this weekend.

Funny to hear the announcers talking about the hog line of Washington and how they were all so big at pretty much 280 lbs.  Now that's the small guy on your Oline and he's probably a rook who won't see the field until the next year after he's 300+.

I'll go along with the thought that these guys are maxing at weight/speed limits such that the human body is having a hard time holding together with the bursts of power/strength and the occasional bad step.