Edger Bennet new OC, Clements Assoc HC & will call plays

New York Giants will overpay for Beluga....

GD I don't disagree but you're using TT/Russ Ball logic. There's a lot of dum elsewhere in this league.

 

Why? If they pay him what I'm predicting he would probably be the 4th highest paid RT in the NFL behind Gosder Cherilus, Anthony Davis, and Marcus Gilbert. He arguably deserves to be the highest paid RT because talent wise he's #1 IMO, but like I said, 28 games missed in 5 years. Jared Veldheer has only missed 10 games in 5 years and he plays LT and he only got 5 years, 35 million from the Cardinals. He's not an elite LT, but I would say he's probably top 10 in the NFL (closer to 10 than 1). Bulaga will be paid like a top 5 RT, but that's not a ridiculous amount of money. There's no team that will blow their wad on an oft injured RT, that just won't happen.  Even if there are dumb teams, like the Titans as someone pointed to, they only paid Michael Oher 20 mil over 4 years...hardly a bank breaking investment. It was overpaying, but RT's simply don't cost nearly as much as LTs. Even if a team wants to overpay for Bulaga, it's absolutely will not be a bank breaking deal. GB can handle whatever deal gets thrown at him. He sounds like he wants to stay in GB also.

Totally agree with your point GD.....but what if a team comes calling that wants to play (and pay) him as a left tackle?  I mean even the Packers thought he was good enough for LT, so why wouldn't another team?  That's the scenario where I see him leaving.  Green Bay can afford to pay him as a top 5 RT, but not a top 5 LT.  

Regardless if teams want to move him to LT, he has minimal NFL experience there. No team is dumb enough to pay top 5 LT money to a guy who hasn't played LT since college. I guess if he really wants to play LT and he's offered a deal comparable to being paid like a top RT he could leave, but I think more realistically GB pays him fair market value and he stays.

Veldheer missed the first 11 games of the 2013 season and then didn't play very well upon his return. There's a reason Reggie made very little effort to re-sign him. That's how he entered free agency. Bulaga played in 17 of 18 games and enjoyed his best season. That's how he's entering free agency. He's looking at between $7M and $8M per with an 8-figure signing bonus.

Yeah that does sound like he will be getting a lot more than what I guessed...

 

...that extra 1 million is a big difference. 

 

28 games in 5 seasons. That's nothing to sneeze at just because he managed to only miss 1 game this year (aside from missing time in 2 other games). He's a year removed from missing an entire season. I'm not trying to dog the guy, but he's not exactly hot sh*t hitting the free agent market. Possibly the best RT in the league who can't stay healthy.

Like Capers and the D, for Campen it seems it's the players and not the coaching. How do these guys keep a job for all these years when there are so few spots available? With 8 billion people on the planet certainly there has to be a better DC or OL coach out there on the streets... or posting on a fan board.

 

JJSD nailed it on the previous page.

 

 

Why even bring Solari in then?  

 

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of coaches who have done more with the choice of talent that's been provided by their GM.  Let's also add in the fact that MM's failed attempt of ZBS scheme, primarily laid at the feet of Jagodipschit, Philbin and Campen, shifted TT's drafting strategy as a whole.   

 

That's the whole point of being a coach, to train, to teach, to improve.  This may be the first time since Shermy that this oline has an identity.  

 

Chicken and egg the conversation all you want, Campen's track record overall is adequasosity in full effect.

 

If we are going to talk about the talent on the field as to how it affects line play lets not forget who is behind center. 

um, science has proved Dom Capers is bad at coaching

Why not bring in Solari? He's a great coach and he makes the staff better easily. Solari wanted to come to GB also so it made sense. Even if Campen was the best OL coach in the league it's still amazing to bring in a talented vet coach, who has better offers, to be your Asst. OL coach. I'm sure McCarthy wants Campen to improve, but I doubt Solari is here to hold his hand. More than likely he's here to help Bennett/Clements with the short yardage offense problem.

I would say $1M to $2M per year (over 4 or 5 years) and at least $2M to $4M more in a signing bonus is a pretty big deal.

 

Anyway we'll soon see who's right and you're wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

Not Sherman, but Beightol and to a lesser degree Philbin. I know Sherman got a lot of credit for his OLines, but Beightol was a really good OL coach.

 

 

Right.  That was the lazy inference.

 

I don't believe Solari will just be working with the tackles.  I think this has much more to do with poor red zone and short yardage production.

       
       


Yeah we can revisit this when you're wrong, like always.

I think that is more on the former play-caller over thinking things with his Pittsburgh macho BS. Wanting to line it up and just shove it down the other teams throat. But the OL is not built for that. They need to run it from the spread where they can beat the guy in front of them and get to the 2nd level and not have to beat 1+ at the LOS. These are not Hogs.

 

 

 

IC, I'm not sure if you think that is funny, but that guy is a dick.

Beightol was a very good OL coach, but his methods and his jokes became stale and Tauscher and Riviera both commented on it.

 

Campen is in year 11 coaching OL in GB...fresh eyes and better jokes is why they brought in Solari. And as noted by GD - neither Clements nor Bennett has OL coaching in their backgrounds, and as MM spends more time in other areas- he wanted to give Edgar/Tom some additional OL insight to lean on.

Everyone overpays for beluga.

 

Agreed, but bringing in Solari when the exceptionally adequate Campen is on staff tells me they are looking to make some changes in the offense with his input about line play.  

 

I don't think they are going to try and turn this into a mauler oline because that's just not the reality.  But I do think Solari will likely provide more technique when it comes to short yardage situations in particular.

Hope Solari works with Gash and Lacy too. Love me some Eddie, big time, but the young man not infrequently misses cutback lanes. Frank Gore was a terrific one-cut runner and while he and Eddie don't have the same style, teaching the young man the finer aspects of reading line-play can't hurt.

yes and no - Eddie does miss too often

 

But remember: Solari had a harem of first round maulers- so telling Gore to just hit the effing hole was sound advice in that scenario

 

Eddie often has to dance around the unprotected penetration, so its understandable that he sometimes picks the wrong hole / misses the cutback.

The one he was supposed to hit was too often filled by an opponent

 

Eddie still needs to choose better, more often.

screens

First round Mauler

 

 

Bring em back and let Satanolari coach em up

watched a bit of Super Bowl XLV the other night

The touchdown to Jordy in Q1... originally called for a screen pass, but the idot Rodgers changed the play. 

He was a dancing bear, drafted for his quick feet and huge wingspan.

(Read: Not a mauler).

 

Didn't read comedian in his BIO. Is he a pull my finger or icy-hot in the jock kind of guy?

 

 

 

Maybe, or they needed another OL coach since Marshall left. Occam Solari Razor?

 

 

 

knock knock

Who's on 1st?

 

Who's yer Daddy ?

Maybe they will bring in Marshall Newhouse in a coaching capacity of some when he retires from football

He would be a good seat filler when a fan has to go use the trough.

Hungry, your avatar, is that a pic of Mike when he was young? I coulda swore I saw that same guy when i was a kid working the tolls on the Pennsylvania turnpike when my dad took us out east

Daddy sang bass.

pics/link?