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Cavetoad posted:
RoyalWulff posted:

did we really need a whole half of football to know that Hundley sucks?  I think not.  i watched last year.  Didn’t the coaching staff?  That didn’t exactly help any effort to showcase him for a trade, either.

I'm hoping they know, we'll see.   I want to see Boyle the rest of the game now.

And they played their starters into the 3rd quarter.  We didn't even start with starters. 3-3 after all that...  who wins?   I'll take rook experience.

Dr._Bob posted:

Nah, who needs to draft OL?

Unfortunately, I think OL is a top 15 pick. And I would not trade Alexander or Jackson for any Γ–L drafted between 14 and 45 at this moment. 

Hard to draft OLs that are not projects after the first 1 or 2 are off the board. 

The Packers are lucky to have Campen, he seems to be able to get the best out of mid round picks. Excluding Spriggs and the holding machine called Murphy. I wish they could all be Mark Tauschers. 

GrainBelt66 posted:
Dr._Bob posted:

Nah, who needs to draft OL?

Unfortunately, I think OL is a top 15 pick. And I would not trade Alexander or Jackson for any Γ–L drafted between 14 and 45 at this moment. 

Hard to draft OLs that are not projects after the first 1 or 2 are off the board. 

The Packers are lucky to have Campen, he seems to be able to get the best out of mid round picks. Excluding Spriggs and the holding machine called Murphy. I wish they could all be Mark Tauschers. 

Madison could be promising, but he hasn't been in camp since his team mate and best friend killed himself.

Good and great big bodies that can play at the NFL level are not that easy to find.  What makes it harder is the fact that they don't always 'mature' at the same rate.   It's a crap shoot and hindsight is always 20-20 except when you hit.

Hard to win in this league starting Hundley. Maybe as hard starting Kizer. I would love to see Boyle starting next week. Dude usually stands in the pocket like he borrowed a pair from an elephant. 

He has the correct demeanor, now, does he have the talent?

in my opinion, time to find out. I don’t care if he is a rookie. It cannot be worse than Hundley, right?

at least Boyle lets me have optimism. 

Kizer is also making me sad. Where is that little clown girl crying that Henry uses? That is how I feel right about now regarding the back up quarterbacks

Cavetoad posted:
GrainBelt66 posted:
Dr._Bob posted:

Nah, who needs to draft OL?

Unfortunately, I think OL is a top 15 pick. And I would not trade Alexander or Jackson for any Γ–L drafted between 14 and 45 at this moment. 

Hard to draft OLs that are not projects after the first 1 or 2 are off the board. 

The Packers are lucky to have Campen, he seems to be able to get the best out of mid round picks. Excluding Spriggs and the holding machine called Murphy. I wish they could all be Mark Tauschers. 

Madison could be promising, but he hasn't been in camp since his team mate and best friend killed himself.

Good and great big bodies that can play at the NFL level are not that easy to find.  What makes it harder is the fact that they don't always 'mature' at the same rate.   It's a crap shoot and hindsight is always 20-20 except when you hit.

Exactly the point I was trying to make 

What we learned tonight. 

1. OL depth is as bad as we thought. 

2. Hundley is worse than we thought.

3. Kizer isn’t far behind Hundley. 

4. The QB room isn't fine after Rodgers. 

5. We learned nothing about the rookie WRs because of 1-4. Which is a complete ****ing waste of a trip out west. 

6.  Josh Jackson is good.  

7. Opie can punt. 

8. Hundley is the backup. 

9. Hundley is the backup.

10. Hundley is the mother ****ing backup. 

 

Cavetoad posted:
Brak posted:

Would love to see what Madison would bring.

I really appreciate the respect and time that the Packer upper management has given him to get things straight.   If it never works out, oh well, what can you do.  It's the right thing to do for someone struggling with one of the hardest things you can deal with in the world.

Yes.

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