😳 😳 😳 have you heard this one? And really am I a day late again?! 😉

Oh well, Have a good life Aaron!

Holy fuck.  Goldie was the first to post this.

I don't know what this means?  I keep scanning the horizon for a plague of locusts and listening for the clattering of horse hooves.

Maybe it was Blake Bortles who ordered the "deep cleaning" of Aaron's house.

Posted this evening by the facility near Malibu where 12 and 69 do off-season workouts. Draw your own conclusions.

At least he’s retiring before camp instead of un-retiring during camp. If that’s what he wants to do, then that’s cool. Hope he enjoys retirement. He’s not going to stay retired though, we’ll see I guess.

Matching man buns. How cute.

@ammo posted:

Matching man buns. How cute.

also same hairstyle

Y’all know how sport books work, right?

@Henry posted:

Holy fuck.  Goldie was the first to post this.

I don't know what this means?  I keep scanning the horizon for a plague of locusts and listening for the clattering of horse hooves.

Cicadas mother fucker.

Don’t worry Giannis, Wisconsin sports fans will shit on you too soon enough.

Funny thing about that cartoon, isn’t everybody crying about the fact Rodgers isn’t saying anything, especially in the press?  

Huh, go figure.

The funny thing is if Giannis retired today he’s already accomplished as much if not more in his sport than Aaron Rodgers has in the NFL.

Keep the dysfunction and hate and frustration away from the Bucks and Giannis.  They’ve lived that crap already.  It’s called the George Karl era.  

Having one screwed up situation with one of your favorite sports teams is bad enough.  Badgers basketball doesn’t count.

Wow, that is some front running delusional shit right there.

Hey, who drew that bullshit cartoon?

2x MVP, defensive player of the year, now Finals MVP and world champion.  At 26.

And a franchise, ownership group, GM and team that are 110% committed to doing whatever it takes to win without burning bridges or trying to steal the spotlight.  What a novel concept.  

Meanwhile in Green Bay, they are acting and running their team like the 2002 Bucks.  Oh the humanity!

@Tschmack posted:

2x MVP, defensive player of the year, now Finals MVP and world champion.  At 26.

Do you really need the comparison?  Of course you do.

Again, who drew that cartoon?  Did the Bucks management give Giannis a supermax contract while actively going out to get more talent or tell him to shut up and play so they could "build for the future"?

BTW, the Bucks are an afterthought in Wisconsin sports unless they are winning.  Your new TJ Bucks campaign is a bunch of front runner crap.

Oh, another thing.  It's a different sport.

The way I understand it, even as minority owner of the Milwaukee Bucks, he didn’t attend any playoff games in Milwaukee during the run to the NBA Championship.

If that is the case, that sounds like a guy trying to begin to sever ties to this state.  Maybe he actually came to some games and I missed it, but I thought his absence was just kind of weird.  Heck I remember sitting across the floor from him at a playoff game vs the Raptors some years back.

Anyways, it’s just more useless speculation on my part, but I would think if he didn’t have any crazy plans different than his typical offseason activities, he would have come to the Bucks games.

He’s purposely being noticeably absent for kicks… then he will likely show up for camp and make some measured comments about how he can’t control what the media prints and how he didn’t say he wanted out of GB.

It’s about the people after all… what he really means to say is that it’s all about him.

Yeah he’s being a **** on purpose and clearly has been all offseason. If you can’t see hes 50% of the problem then you’re delusional. Contract negotiations are normal and don’t have to be contentious, we’ve heard Davante commenting on his contract situation like a normal grown adult. Murphy may have fucked the situation up from the start, but Rodgers is escalating it and making it 1000x worse than it needs to be. He took his $6M roster bonus and he’s just needling whoever his adversary is at this point.

Right. Front runners.  That’s a hot take and it might be some fans but let’s get something straight.

I followed and stuck with the Bucks basically since I was little kid and I’m nearly 50 now.  Basketball is my favorite sport and always has been.  I love hoops, not just the NBA.  The NCAA tourney is the best sporting event there is (IMO).

So save your labels.  You’re just pissy and can’t at all be objective about the situation because you’re such Rodgers fan boy.  And yes I’ve spent enough time in this state to know it’s all about the Packers all the time.  By my main point is people can follow whomever and whatever team they want and I think you are selling yourself as a fan short if you don’t take the time to watch a team like the Bucks.  Or the Brewers.  

Maybe you hate those other sports, I don’t know.  What I know is the NFL is becoming less and less interesting for a number of reasons and this latest episode/drama with the Packers surely doesn’t help matters.

@Grave Digger

Agreed.  The issue is this, it never should've happened in the first place because, you know, maybe kinda managing people and relationships.

Not sure if you honestly think this is still a contract negotiation with Rodgers at this point because that would be straight up silly.  Adams negotiations may be standard stop and start tactics but it's pretty clear it's also about people with him at this point.

Maybe there's a problem with how the FO operates?  It's just me, and we all know this is just out of left field, but maybe we should be more concerned with how management is operating rather than some bullshit instagram posts.   

@Tschmack posted:

Right. Front runners.  That’s a hot take and it might be some fans but let’s get something straight.

I followed and stuck with the Bucks basically since I was little kid and I’m nearly 50 now.  Basketball is my favorite sport and always has been.  I love hoops, not just the NBA.  The NCAA tourney is the best sporting event there is (IMO).

So save your labels.  You’re just pissy and can’t at all be objective about the situation because you’re such Rodgers fan boy.  And yes I’ve spent enough time in this state to know it’s all about the Packers all the time.  By my main point is people can follow whomever and whatever team they want and I think you are selling yourself as a fan short if you don’t take the time to watch a team like the Bucks.  Or the Brewers.  

Maybe you hate those other sports, I don’t know.  What I know is the NFL is becoming less and less interesting for a number of reasons and this latest episode/drama with the Packers surely doesn’t help matters.

Good thing there's a Bucks forum.

Objective.  Yes, that happens in a forum with a bunch of highly opinionated posters.  You're objective.  Got it.

I'm a Super Bowl fanboy.  Funny how you just can't seem to respond to the comparison of how the Bucks won a championship because management took care of their super star player and listened to his input while actively trying to surround him with the best talent.

I don't give two shits if Rodgers punches cancer patients in the face (which I'm sure has been confirmed by certain Packers fans now), he's the guy who can be the one monstrous piece the Shanahan offense needs to actually win a championship with the help of even a top 10 defense instead of a behemoth defense.

Yes, objective.

@fightphoe93 posted:

The way I understand it, even as minority owner of the Milwaukee Bucks, he didn’t attend any playoff games in Milwaukee during the run to the NBA Championship.

If that is the case, that sounds like a guy trying to begin to sever ties to this state.  Maybe he actually came to some games and I missed it, but I thought his absence was just kind of weird.  Heck I remember sitting across the floor from him at a playoff game vs the Raptors some years back.

Anyways, it’s just more useless speculation on my part, but I would think if he didn’t have any crazy plans different than his typical offseason activities, he would have come to the Bucks games.

Maybe he was in a private box? 

@Henry posted:

@Grave Digger

Agreed.     

Should have stopped here.

What fun is that?

I think I figured out Goalline's motivations.  He's opening a Fanta snowcone cart on the sledding hill.  So the more time Murphy spiffs up those hills the more his Fanta dreams come true.  Just ignore he's using snow from the sled hill.  There may be some surprises inside.  It's kind of like a fucked up Cracker Jacks.

https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...-than-happy-packers/

More clickbaity links 😆

Rusty Balls screwing the pooch on the contract front it looks like. Maybe the beginning of a coup were seeing? GBP should have hired Andrew Brandt instead of Murphy.

Yep. At some point, the clown show that this is becoming needs to end. Oh, and I also feel for LaFleur. He didn't ask for any of this shit show.

… attention. It’s the perfect way for him to stick it to #Packers brass. He has the upper hand now. If he stands firm on not playing, Murphy can’t let his influence grow. TT and MM decided to trade Favre when forced to make that decision. They went 6-10 but were better for it.

— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) July 24, 2021

This too...

Nobody has been harder on Murphy and Gutekunst than yours truly, but neither is the villian in this drama. They've made mistakes, but Rodgers is every bit as culpable, and now he's dragging Adams into the mess. Here's hoping fans aren't as stupid this summer as they were in 2008.

— Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) July 24, 2021

12 and 17 will never have more value than they do right now. Trade them both this summer and use all the high picks to rebuild in a hurry. The alternative is to slog through a messy season that won't end with a parade, and then get back much less for the two aging stars.

— Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) July 24, 2021

@Henry posted:

Do you really need the comparison?  Of course you do.

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Edited to when Rodgers was 26.

FR

@Boris posted:

https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...-than-happy-packers/

More clickbaity links 😆

Smith has no reason to be mad at the Packers.  His agent is the one who jammed him up the ass for recommneding he sigh the contract with those stipulations.   Changing agents now is like shutting the barn door after the cows got out.   Once again the front office is smarter than the players, agents and fans.

All I want to know is……WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH MY PACKERS.  😩 😩 😩 😩 😩

@packerboi posted:

This too...

Nobody has been harder on Murphy and Gutekunst than yours truly, but neither is the villian in this drama. They've made mistakes, but Rodgers is every bit as culpable, and now he's dragging Adams into the mess. Here's hoping fans aren't as stupid this summer as they were in 2008.

— Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) July 24, 2021

Wait, so Rodgers is making Adams, a grown man, do his biding?  W.T.F. is wrong with people?  

Rodney is blaming Rodgers for Adams actions in Adams contract negotiations with the FO dopes?  So Adams and his representatives are negotiating with the assholes in the FO and it’s Rodgers fault.

“Here’s hoping fans aren’t as stupid this summer as they were in 2008”.  

Well Rodney, you just blew that prospect out of the water.  

@H5 posted:

Edited to when Rodgers was 26.

Is that Super Bowl MVP thing good?  Obviously not as good as an NBA title of course but it sounds pretty good.

I mean when you’re doing cross sports comparisons to 5 guys who can freely move on the court to 11 guys who line up in set positions on a field and pound the fuck out of each other (Friday night?) that Super Bowl MVP thing seems pretty good.

I’m not sure why I’m comparing the middling titles of the NFL to the greatness of the NBA.  Silly me.

@packerboi posted:

Yep. At some point, the clown show that this is becoming needs to end. Oh, and I also feel for LaFleur. He didn't ask for any of this shit show.

… attention. It’s the perfect way for him to stick it to #Packers brass. He has the upper hand now. If he stands firm on not playing, Murphy can’t let his influence grow. TT and MM decided to trade Favre when forced to make that decision. They went 6-10 but were better for it.

— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) July 24, 2021

Hi Tom, question for you.  If your QB can actually hatch such an amazing scheme, drawing upon his minions on the team, to outmaneuver the guys who are actually running the team is it possible there’s a problem with the guys running the team?  

Diabolical!  Rodgers planned a 16 year career, winning a Super Bowl, multiple pro bowls and MVPs just to cover for this day!  

Holy shit, people have lost their damn minds.  This is solid entertainment.

I don’t think he’s saying Rodgers is roping these guys into the plan, I think he’s saying that guys are capitalizing on the negative PR GB is currently receiving to pressure GB to get some public wins. Rodgers knows he’s winning the PR battle every time a story about Adams, ZSmith, whoever being disgruntled comes out. GB should have squashed this in April unless Rodgers is drawing it out on purpose.

@Grave Digger posted:

Rusty Balls screwing the pooch on the contract front it looks like. Maybe the beginning of a coup were seeing? GBP should have hired Andrew Brandt instead of Murphy.

Should’ve started there.

@Grave Digger posted:

I don’t think he’s saying Rodgers is roping these guys into the plan, I think he’s saying that guys are capitalizing on the negative PR GB is currently receiving to pressure GB to get some public wins. Rodgers knows he’s winning the PR battle every time a story about Adams, ZSmith, whoever being disgruntled comes out. GB should have squashed this in April unless Rodgers is drawing it out on purpose.

Is that why he’s calling all of this “Rodgers Revenge”?  Maybe Tom is a dullard but wouldn’t that imply some kind of coordinated plan rather than other stand alone issues with other players the FO also fucked up?

Rodgers and Adams will play for GB in '21.

Come next Feb/Mar, we could be doing this all again.

1)  Agreed.  2021 or Bust!

2)  Disagree.