Completely different animal Holmy vs. McVince
Packers were the dregs of the NFL when Holmy took over. It was the FA wild west...he convinced the GOAT DE of all time to come here, eschewing offers from SF, Dallas and NYG, cream of the NFL crop at that time.
I think he will be celebrated, and deservingly so, much more than McVince.
PackerHawk posted:Nope, those two are not in the same conversation. MM will be celebrated about as much as Holmgren, which isn't a lot.
I never said it was the same, I said it reminded me of what happened with Starr. Anyone should be able to see the correlation. MM was booed in his last games as coach, Starr was booed in his last games as coach. Starr was cheered when he returned, yes many remembered his days as a player, but lots of those fans never saw him play, but do remember him as a coach. MM will be cheered too whenever he returns.
No real reason to boo Pittsburgh Macho if/when he returns. He won the team a SB and the fans will always have fond memories of that. He was merely a good coach and pretty clear from this thread that many hold his coaching abilities in much higher regard than I do.
I certainly wouldn't boo him but I'm not going to celebrate him either. A nice golf clap seems appropriate if I'm not on the concourse getting a beer.
You people are f'ing funny.
More importantly, how are you recognizing today's 86th anniversary of the repeal of prohibition?
MM is rumored to be in line for the Panthers job & also.....wait for it....
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The Cowboy job!!
GBFanForLife posted:You people are f'ing funny.
I'm funny how, I mean funny like a clown?
The Jerry and Mike Show....stay tuned.
Time heals most wounds.
When the time comes where MM is being recognized by the team, or participating in some kind of alumni/homecoming thing, I'd think folks will remember him with mostly warm nostalgia.
And I hope that he will share many (funny) anecdotes, much as Holmgren has.
And we happen to have the king of ass-kissing to assuage the butt hurt of many to bring the family back together, after all....
It was 14 US a bottle when I was there a year ago.
Fedya posted:Thunderbird posted:More importantly, how are you recognizing today's 86th anniversary of the repeal of prohibition?
In Iceland, they celebrate Beer Day to commemorate the re-legalizing of beer, which only happened in 1989.
But they could still drink herkedzinrerkergel right?
I thought that was a lady part exercise.
Paging Goldie
DH13 posted:I assume most people cheered Bart for his playing days and being an exceptional human being after the game. The coaching stuff can recede. MM will be celebrated again at Lambeau at some point but I don't think it will be anything like with Starr.
This.
MM was a far, far more successful head coach of the Packers than was Bart Starr.
MM also coached as an assistant for multiple other NFL teams before taking over as HC in GB. And, if the rumors are true, he will soon be named the HC of another NFL team.
Bart Starr quarterbacked the Packers for over a decade. Bart also won 5 NFL Titles and the first 2 SBs. He is forever linked in Packer lore to his HC Vince Lombardi.
Bart was never, as far as I can recall, part of another NFL franchise. He was also widely know, in Wisconsin and beyond, as a great humanitarian.
MM certainly deserves no opprobrium from Packer fans, but he will never, ever come close to reaching Bart's status among the Green and Gold faithful and nor should he.
As for how MM will be recognized by Packer fans in the future, I think much depends upon what transpires over the next couple of seasons.
Have any of you heard the owner of the Panthers talk?
I realize he’s a highly successful hedge fund guy but JFC he sounds like MMs long lost brother. Jim Tomasula likes where that conversation was going.
I have more fuzzies for MM than I do Bert Faver. Just to toss out another pointless comparison.
Agreed. Golf clap for MM, silence for Bert.
I miss Jim Tomsula farting during a post-game presser.
The best is when he furrows his brow to force it out
McVince just got stale. Bert is a shit. I have no clue why anyone would boo McVince. Winston Moss is another kettle fish.
I for one don't remember Bart the player but I unfortunately remember him as the coach. If I had been at Lambeau when Bart came back he would have gotten a huge cheer from me because of the legacy he means to my team.
As for MM if they had some sort of homecoming/recognition thing for him and I was there I would cheer for him. Yes the situation got stale the last couple of seasons but he did bring us a Super Bowl, won us a bunch of division titles, and won a ton of games. Nowhere near Starr's legacy with the team but he does to me deserve a ton of respect for what he did accomplish.
Holmgren hasn't coached since 2008. Out of football since 2012. Has there been any sighting of him at Lambeau Field? He's been a ghost as far as I know.
Any talk of a "homecoming" for MM is pretty silly at this point. Hell, I might be dead by the time he's spotted at Lambeau as anything other than the coach of another team.
Henry posted:McVince just got stale. Bert is a shit. I have no clue why anyone would boo McVince. Winston Moss is another kettle fish.
Agreed-
F Favre forever. Phony drama queen interception machine Viking POS. MM just came off as so unintelligent at times. Just too stubborn and stuck in his ways. Add in a little ego and it got real old but I would never boo MM. I would boo Bert in a heartbeat though.
