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Originally Posted by PackFoo:

A bigger issue is that it seems the Packers tend to hang on to injured players longer and don't cut their losses. Sherrod & Quarless come to mind...

 

Why is that a bigger issue? They're on IR and not taking up a roster spot. And both are on rookie deals, with negligible incremental cost against the salary cap.

 

Originally Posted by antiworst:
Originally Posted by Tschmack:

People need to quit their whining about the injuries 

 

guys get hurt - it's football 

 

thankfully a number of the injuries aren't serious 

Why is it whining to ask why the team has been near the top of the league in pulls and strains? Is it blasphemy to wonder if the training is sub-par, or are all medical staffs created equal?

This makes a lot of sense. I remember a stat sheet someone posted that had the Packers with the most games lost by players with injuries. SF had the least. It isn't all luck, is it?

That's all I'm asking Boston Jim. We all know there are going to be injuries in football, but are the pulls and strains somewhat preventable and do the Packers have an inordinate amount? Fair question I believe.

Thank you. The intent was not to whine about injuries. I was just pointing out how he packers always seem to lead the league in them. Something ha to e the reason. My guess lies with a poor training staff
Man Iowa
First topic I have started in two years and it was an intelligent one and you still give me grief. An for the record, I went boating in watch hill Rhode Island last weekend to see the mansions, not yachting.

Bills lose last years #10 overall pick CB Stephon Gilmore until at least Week 6. 

 

Have we made this point clear enough to all you whiners? Packers aren't the only team with injuries. In fact, I'd say they've been pretty damn fortunate so far this offseason. 

Ok, we'll see how it goes this season. I hope they can avoid major injuries, because they will be right there at the end if they do.

 

I just don't want to see the Packers at the bottom of the games missed by players due to injuries two years in a row.

From Deadspin today.  

 

Green Bay Packers: A big reason that we are so high on Green Bay this season is that they were, by far, the most-injured team in our Adjusted Games Lost (AGL) database last year. They became only the sixth team ever to conjure up more than 100 AGL in a season. While there was no great upward trend in this specific sample of teams—something your author blames on small sample size theatre and Matt Millen—they all showed a marked improvement in health next season. The fact is, teams that tend to be that unhealthy tend to be really bad. They tend to bring in new coaches and front offices, and those new coaches and front offices usually gut the roster of injured players and succeed or fail on their own merits. That's not the case with the current Green Bay Packers, which is an incredible demonstration of how deep this team has been built. Going back to 2002, every other team that finished dead last in AGL posted a negative DVOA, and usually it wasn't even close to league average. Injuries don't make for a sexy narrative, though. There's no humanity in them. They are often accused of being excuses rather than explanations. It's much easier to worry aloud if Dom Capers' scheme is just poor at stopping the read option than to point out that Green Bay's linebacker corps was playing reserves and severely banged-up starters. With an AGL of 40.1, the Packers had more Adjusted Games Lost at linebacker than seven teams had on all units combined; postseason starters Brad Jones and Erik Walden were backups forced into the lineup due to injury, while Matthews was dealing with hamstring problems down the stretch. Capers hardly had all the answers in that game—in fact, recent reports noted that he barely prepared for the read option at all—but along with Dick LeBeau and Wade Phillips he's probably one of the three best defensive coordinators in the modern history of the NFL. He's successfully shifted his scheme from the grind-it-out '90s to the modern spread attacks of today; he probably knows a thing or two about making adjustments. (Rivers McCown)

Originally Posted by CAPackFan95:
Capers hardly had all the answers in that game—in fact, recent reports noted that he barely prepared for the read option at all—


I am a Capers supporter but that is a pretty big coaching blunder IMO.

"Have we made this point clear enough to all you whiners? Packers aren't the only team with injuries."

 

Strange, I don't see anyone even remotely suggesting that. Apparently it's YOU that missed the point. The question is, again, do the Packers have more pulls and strains than other teams and is it a trend? That's all. Nothing more. If not, cool. If so, why? Posting every injury another team has doesn't address the question, it just illustrates that the question is being avoided using strawmen. Never mind, it's all good. Carry on.

Originally Posted by antiworst:

The question is, again, do the Packers have more pulls and strains than other teams and is it a trend? 

 

No team is exempt from injuries (CBS, ESPN): pulls, strains, whatever.

LOL, I'm done with this subject FS. It just seems that we have an inordinate amount of muscle pulls. Maybe I'm wrong on this, wouldn't be the first time and won't be the last. Didn't think it was a question to "take sides" on. Apparently it is, so I'm out!

Originally Posted by Boston Jim:
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
Originally Posted by antiworst:

The question is, again, do the Packers have more pulls and strains than other teams and is it a trend? 

 

No team is exempt from injuries (CBS, ESPN): pulls, strains, whatever.

Sure but what about this??? Shouldn't this raise some concerns?

 

Green Bay was, by far, the most-injured team in Deadspin's Adjusted Games Lost (AGL) database last year. They became only the sixth team ever to conjure up more than 100 AGL in a season.

 

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/injuries/nfl/all/

 

I would direct your attention to the Redskins, Saints, 49ers, Chargers, Giants, Broncos and Cowboys.

 

All NFL teams, all with more injuries than the Packers.

 

Do the Packers have a lot of injuries? You bet. But some teams have even more. And ya know what? IT'S PART OF THE ****ING GAME!

For those wondering:

 

In addition to Bulaga, running back DuJuan Harris, rookie wide receiver Kevin Dorsey and rookie linebacker Jarvis Reed were placed on injured reserve.

 

None of the four are eligible to return at any point during the regular season. In order to be the one player designated for return, that player needs to be on the team’s 53-man roster to start the season.

Earning an NFL salary while he's rehabbing sure makes it a lot easier to deal with. 

Defensive coordinator Dom Capers acknowledged the four-week battle that Moses has waged with turf toe. "How much that's affected him, I can't hardly say," said Capers. "With that (players) can't really push off the way they need to. He's tried to push through it. That becomes a factor."-jsonline

 

that explains a lot.  thought moses was going to make a jump this summer

I feel bad for Harris but I think we'll be fine at RB.  I think Lacy would have eventually started over a healthy Harris later this season anyway.  This just changes the time table a little. 

Harris's value wasn't in being "the starter", it was in his running style being a change up to Lacy's.  We don't really have another back like that on the roster, or even one that showed as much success as Harris did late last year.  Franklin was supposed to be a little more in that mold but he's not there yet.  Losing Harris sucks.

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