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Packers-Rams will be billed as Matt LaFleur vs. Sean McVay, but it might come down to LaFleur vs. Brandon Staley. The 38-year defensive coordinator had at the No. 1 scoring D in the NFL (18.5 ppg), while LaFleur called the No. 1 scoring offense (31.8 ppg).

Rob Demovsky, ESPN Staff Writer

LA Rams are a paper tiger, just not every week.  Still they were banged up even b4 Seahags game and are on a short week. Welcome to Green Bay, LA!

I'm less worried about coach familiarity with McVay than I was with K Shanny,  Mike LaFleur and DC Selah in SF. If anything, Matt LaFleur has advantage in game planning vs McVay as he knows his tendencies from being OC 4 years ago.

Win ugly if necessary, just get the win.

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At this point, I can't see the Rams being significantly different than the Bores.
Strong defense, inept offense.

I would expect the defensive game plan also being similar, although I hope a bit more aggressive. In a nutshell, it's the proverbial 'make Goff beat you through the air', and betting he can't do it.

I hope we see a bit more rollout, and plenty of play action calls to protect ARod from their pass rush.
If Ramsey has any success defending Adams (good luck with that), we'll have to depend on Lizard, MVS, and TE production.
And RTFB. Pound on their big guys in the cold.

UGH I knew the Packers were going to draw the Saturday night game.  I am stuck at a small event for my wife's work and I won't be near a TV.  Of course it starts at 430 EST right at kickoff.   

Anyhow, the QB situation for the Rams is an interesting one.  Goff seems to still be struggling with that broken thumb, their backup wolford was sent to the hospital with a neck injury, and they do have Bortles but he is listed as out so I don't know about him.   Which will mean to me the Packers have to stop their running game and if they slow down Cam Akers and Brown I really like their chances.

Offensively it might be a bit of struggle but if they can get some nice sustained drives I really like our chances on this one.

Now on to figuring out the best way to stream this game so I can sneak away and watch it off and on.

Anyone beginning to feel a little too good about the game should just recall a 15-1 Packer team that was expected to dispatch the Giants without much difficultly.  Think the Packers will prevail, but the Ram defense will be a huge challenge.

@The Heckler posted:

UGH I knew the Packers were going to draw the Saturday night game.  I am stuck at a small event for my wife's work and I won't be near a TV.  Of course it starts at 430 EST right at kickoff.   

Anyhow, the QB situation for the Rams is an interesting one.  Goff seems to still be struggling with that broken thumb, their backup wolford was sent to the hospital with a neck injury, and they do have Bortles but he is listed as out so I don't know about him.   Which will mean to me the Packers have to stop their running game and if they slow down Cam Akers and Brown I really like their chances.

Offensively it might be a bit of struggle but if they can get some nice sustained drives I really like our chances on this one.

Now on to figuring out the best way to stream this game so I can sneak away and watch it off and on.

It’s not the night game

I imagine all 3 play. However, how truly healthy they will be is another story:

An NFL Network report indicated Donald's ribs are not broken, but he had an MRI on Sunday. The injury could put Donald's functionality – if not his availability –  in doubt. Donald, a six-time All-Pro whose 13.5 sacks tied for second in the NFL, had two sacks and three quarterback hits against the Seahawks. Quarterback Jared Goff did not start Saturday's game because of a broken thumb that needed surgery 12 days earlier but was inserted early after John Wolford left with a neck injury. Goff clearly struggled with the thumb, completing only 9 of 19 passes for 155 yards, one touchdown and a 93.1 passer rating. Cooper Kupp, the Rams' top receiver, also left late because of a knee injury but reportedly was OK. While the Packers got a week to rest, the Rams got beat up in their wild-card game.

While the Packers will host only 6,000 fans, they'll enjoy a natural home-field advantage on the frozen tundra. That advantage will only be amplified with a southern California team coming to Lambeau Field. Temperatures in Los Angeles this week will fluctuate between 70 and 80 degrees. The Rams will be greeted this weekend by an expected high temperature of less than 25 degrees. It's just what the Packers want.

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@The Heckler posted:

UGH I knew the Packers were going to draw the Saturday night game.  I am stuck at a small event for my wife's work and I won't be near a TV.  Of course it starts at 430 EST right at kickoff.   



Go find a rally to hang out at. With any luck you will have the Rona in time to quarantine through the NFC Championship game.

You're welcome!

@michiganjoe posted:

Anyone beginning to feel a little too good about the game should just recall a 15-1 Packer team that was expected to dispatch the Giants without much difficultly.  Think the Packers will prevail, but the Ram defense will be a huge challenge.

Unless there is a tragic event or COVID outbreak hits the team this week, I don't see that happening.  I've always believed that the death of Joe Philbin's son the week of that Packers-Giants divisional game played a major factor in the team's performance. There's no doubt that their typical week of preparation was thrown out the window, as they dealt with the death, attended the wake/funeral, etc. The team we watched that Sunday - especially the offense - was not the team we watched throughout that season. Something was definitely off.

As for this game, I see us winning by double digits. Yes, they've got a great defense, but we have a fantastic balanced offense, a defense that is playing great ball, home field advantage at a freezing Lambeau Field against a California team, a team that is playing with tremendous confidence, and an opponent that is dealing with injuries and doesn't even know who is going to play QB this weekend. Oh, and we have the m'fn MVP in Aaron f'n Rodgers. I predict we'll win the turnover battle +3 and win by double-digits.

This is the benefit of being the top seed: you frequently get a matchup in the divisional round that is very favorable. We'll take advantage of it this week.

The concern is always defense. If the defense hadn’t contained Henry and Montgomery in back to back weeks I would be nervous. They are going into this game confident and the Rams are not only beat up but had a mostly ineffective week on offense against the Seahawks despite the win. Rodgers can work over any defense IMO, I’m worried about Jalen Ramsey taking away Davante and the other receivers not stepping up, but overall Rodgers will Rodgers. If the defense holds them under 21 we will be fine.

I'm more concerned about the ST's than the defense. Defense will do enough to keep the Rams around 20 points, maybe less.

ST's or some uncharacteristic mistakes on offense will determine if this is a close game or a loss. Otherwise, GB wins fairly comfortably.

Digger, I am right there with you with the concern always being the defense.  I think our DB's should be able to handle Woods and Kupp but its always the run defense I worry about. 

I don't mean to be too obvious but if the Packers can run the ball against them they will do that and do it often.  No better way to keep our defense off the field than to control the clock.   

2 key things to watch for the Rams.

1.) Assuming Aaron Donald plays, game time temp will be around 18-20 degrees. With a rib injury, inhaling 20 degree air is said to be equivalent to breathing in razor blades from other players who have dealt with rib/chest injuries and had to play in cold weather. It will be very interesting to see how effective he is in that kind of weather.

2.) Do not assume Goff starts unless Wolford is just ruled out.

“We’re going to take it a day at a time with both of those guys, really,” McVay said. “John’s coming off the stinger. Jared’s still recovering from the thumb, and so I’m not going to make any statements.”

I could see McVay going with Wolford if he believes he can be a running QB and gash the Packers for a couple decent runs. Goff's thumb in cold weather probably doesn't bode well either. If you watched yesterdays game, he threw passes that did everything but quack. Little velocity on deep balls and here again, weather could really affect his passes in cold temps.

I can't imagine the Rams will tip off who's QB until very late in the week.       

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@Timmy! posted:

At this point, I can't see the Rams being significantly different than the Bores.
Strong defense, inept offense.

I would expect the defensive game plan also being similar, although I hope a bit more aggressive. In a nutshell, it's the proverbial 'make Goff beat you through the air', and betting he can't do it.


I do think the Rams have a more dynamic running game than the Bears. Will see if McVay has the will to stick to the running game even if they fall behind.

My biggest concern with this match up is our OLB's vs the run game.  Z and P have a tendency to crash in and easily give up contain.    McVay is going to eye candy the shit out of them.    We can't have them trying to be the hero, they need to be assignment sure first and foremost.

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@packerboi posted:

2 key things to watch for the Rams.

1.) Assuming Aaron Donald plays, game time temp will be around 18-20 degrees. With a rib injury, inhaling 20 degree air is said to be equivalent to breathing in razor blades from other players who have dealt with rib/chest injuries and had to play in cold weather. It will be very interesting to see how effective he is in that kind of weather.

2.) Do not assume Goff starts unless Wolford is just ruled out.

“We’re going to take it a day at a time with both of those guys, really,” McVay said. “John’s coming off the stinger. Jared’s still recovering from the thumb, and so I’m not going to make any statements.”

I could see McVay going with Wolford if he believes he can be a running QB and gash the Packers for a couple decent runs. Goff's thumb in cold weather probably doesn't bode well either. If you watched yesterdays game, he threw passes that did everything but quack. Little velocity on deep balls and here again, weather could really affect his passes in cold temps.

I can't imagine the Rams will tip off who's QB until very late in the week.       

The thing is the Rams DL is REALLY GOOD, as Aikman was saying in the broadcast. It's not all just Donald, who I suspect will be on a pitch count and won't be as effective on the frozen tundra. Our OL is a lot stronger than the Seahawks blockers, too.

My basic view of the game: Ram offense isn't very good and Packers will probably have to beat themselves to lose. Think 24-28 from the Packer offense will be more than enough.

@BrainDed posted:

My biggest concern with this match up is our OLB's vs the run game.  Z and P have a tendency to crash in and easily give up contain.    McVay is going to eye candy the shit out of them.    We can't have them trying to be the hero, they need to be assignment sure first and foremost.

At the same time, Akers is not even in David Montgomery's category. And he sure as hell isn't in D. Henry's either. The Packers defense, including their run D has just been a different animal the last 5-6 weeks.   

Not overly concerned about the Rams.  Yes they have a very good defense but a banged up Donald won’t help matters.

This game is all about the Packers.  If they play their game and don’t make numerous mistakes they should win by 14-17 even if the Rams play well.  

I see something like a 27-10 game.  Or 24-7 game.  

Per McVay…

John Wolford: Stinger, day to day
David Edwards: Achilles tendinitis, day to day
Aaron Donald: Rib, day to day and expected to play
Cooper Kupp: Bursitis, day to day expected to play
Whit: Expected to play
Starting QB: Day to day

@packerboi posted:

At the same time, Akers is not even in David Montgomery's category. And he sure as hell isn't in D. Henry's either. The Packers defense, including their run D has just been a different animal the last 5-6 weeks.   

Better LB play from Barnes and Kirksey as well as a healthy Kenny Clark earning that big salary. Hope Snacks gets more snaps.

I think this will be a very close game, we probably won't be able to relax until the final whistle.  Jalen Ramsey might well neutralize Davante, so the other receivers and Tonyan and A. Jones will have to step up in the passing game.  The Rams front seven is definitely strong, even without - or with a limited - Donald, but the Packer's o-line is much better than Seattle's, so I'm guessing Rodgers will have to deal with occasional pressure, but not harassed to the point RW was.  The Rams definitely have better receivers in Woods and Kupp than the Bears put out in our last game, but Jaire will take one of them away.  Have to hope King steps up and that Savage and Amos continue their strong play.   I'm thinking a heavy dose of the run game, combined with some uncomfortable weather, and possibly footing,  for LA, carries GB to the NFCCG. 

@Tschmack posted:

Not overly concerned about the Rams.  Yes they have a very good defense but a banged up Donald won’t help matters.

This game is all about the Packers.  If they play their game and don’t make numerous mistakes they should win by 14-17 even if the Rams play well.  

I see something like a 27-10 game.  Or 24-7 game.  

As we've discussed, Pettine's scheme is designed to make the other offense execute long drives and expect that they'll eventually make a mistake (a drop or a bad read) or someone on the Packers makes an individual play. I have a lot more confidence in that scheme working really well against Jared Goff than I do against Brady, Brees, or Mahomes (the guys the Packers are most likely to play if they get past the Rams). Actually, Goff is the guy you'd most want to face as a defense out of any of the other 7 QBs left (Jackson, Allen, and Mayfield are all more concerning). Woods and Kupp can beat you, but they are not on the same level as Mike Evans, Michael Thomas, Diggs, Jarvis Landry, or T. Hill).  Cam Akers is a good, not great, RB.

If the Packers don't turn the ball over or give up some special teams points, they win this pretty comfortably. I'd expect some trick plays from the Rams since McVay is very creative and he probably figures he's a big underdog. Onside kicks, fake punts, and gadget plays on offense are likely since he knows he'll have to manufacture points.

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