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Bill O'Brien said the same thing about the Texans. No, I prefer to stay calm & let everyone else do the talking. 

Vegas has placed the Packers at +7 underdogs & +270 on the MoneyLine. 

What does that moneyline number mean? with the +270?  I have been wanting to ask that question but kept forgetting.

FloridaRob, you are correct they stand ZERO chance.  Neyt, nine, nada, zilch so they should just forfeit and be happy with the crown of worst 14-3 team in history.

The Heckler posted:

What does that moneyline number mean? with the +270?  I have been wanting to ask that question but kept forgetting.

+270 is how much profit you make on a $100.00 bet. (Provided the Packers or underdog wins the game) If the line was -200 it's costs you $200 to profit $100 (betting the favorite).

Make sense?

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The Heckler posted:

What does that moneyline number mean? with the +270?  I have been wanting to ask that question but kept forgetting.

FloridaRob, you are correct they stand ZERO chance.  Neyt, nine, nada, zilch so they should just forfeit and be happy with the crown of worst 14-3 team in history.

+ indicates how much you'd win for betting $100.

+270 = Bet $100 to win $270

- indicates how much you need to bet to win $100

-150= Bet $150 to win $100

Prediction Time:

Niners will not let Adams beat them like Seattle did.    He will get doubled all day long.   This is going to open up things for some shot plays to Lazard and he will win some 50/50 balls. 

Jimmy G will gift the pack an early turnover and take a full half before the nerves start to wear off.   We simply have no answer for Kittle in 2nd half so we have to hope that the pass rush can get home before Jimmy can get rid of it.   

Packers 27 Niners 24.   Game ends on a Z Smith sack on a 4th down. 

BrainDed posted:

Prediction Time:

Niners will not let Adams beat them like Seattle did.    He will get doubled all day long.   This is going to open up things for some shot plays to Lazard and he will win some 50/50 balls. 

Jimmy G will gift the pack an early turnover and take a full half before the nerves start to wear off.   We simply have no answer for Kittle in 2nd half so we have to hope that the pass rush can get home before Jimmy can get rid of it.   

Packers 27 Niners 24.   Game ends on a Z Smith sack on a 4th down. 

It was shocking that the Seahawks didn't take Adams away. The rest of the receiving corps is squishy.

Lazard may not be 100% with that ankle.

excalibur posted:
BrainDed posted:

Prediction Time:

Niners will not let Adams beat them like Seattle did.    He will get doubled all day long.   This is going to open up things for some shot plays to Lazard and he will win some 50/50 balls. 

Jimmy G will gift the pack an early turnover and take a full half before the nerves start to wear off.   We simply have no answer for Kittle in 2nd half so we have to hope that the pass rush can get home before Jimmy can get rid of it.   

Packers 27 Niners 24.   Game ends on a Z Smith sack on a 4th down. 

It was shocking that the Seahawks didn't take Adams away. The rest of the receiving corps is squishy.

Lazard may not be 100% with that ankle.

Don't think Hawks had the personnel to do it. I saw a LOT of safety help headed toward him, but the Legion of Boom is no more.

We'll see.  Either way, he allows their secondary to double up on whoever is the #2 or #3 WR because they can leave him on an island no matter who he's covering.  MM/AR almost completely avoided Sherman's side of the field when he was in SEA.  We'll see if MLF/AR test him any more than that.

excalibur posted:

It was shocking that the Seahawks didn't take Adams away. The rest of the receiving corps is squishy.

Lazard may not be 100% with that ankle.

It's gotta be him.   Nobody else on this squad is winning a jump ball.  Maybe Graham but the line won't be able to hold up the 6 seconds it takes him to run 40 yards. 

The Packers and 49ers have a gold and interesting history/rivalry the last 20+ years in playoff games. The 90s Packers arrived in the ‘95 playoffs by beating SF at The Stick, beat the 49ers the following year in the mud to advance to the NFCC Game, beat them the following year to go to the Super Bowl, then finally losing to them the following year on the TO Catch II. Then there’s the BTB Kaepernick losses in 12/13. 

It's become an historic rivalry but all they’ll talk about this week is Rodgers in the draft. Stupid... 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/fe...ertified-mega-upset/

Excerpt: 

The Vikings could not block San Francisco. The 49ers paid for the pass rush with draft capital and trades, and they got their money’s worth.

neil: I wonder if that will change next week against the No. 1 offensive line in pass block win rate.

Salfino: That’s a great stat. This game suddenly got a lot more interesting, in my mind. It’s always tough to believe in a rematch when the last game that season was such a massacre, but there’s also the 2010 Jets over the Patriots, right?

neil: That one definitely sticks out in my mind as a rare major reversal between regular season and playoffs.

joshua.hermsmeyer: My research has shown that o-line has more of an effect on pass rush allowed than defense does in creating it, fwiw.

neil: Interesting!

Salfino: I believe that, Josh. The offense is mostly in control versus anything the defense does, based on all the data I’ve seen.

neil: Does the defense control its own destiny in anything???

Poor defenses. Always at the whims of the offense.

I have a hard time believing that the Green Bay run defense will slow down the Niners.

Salfino: Kyle Shanahan was all “run to win” Saturday in the postgame.

sara.ziegler: By Football Outsiders’ Defense-adjusted Value Over Average, the Vikings had the ninth-best run defense this year, and they still gave up 186 yards to the Niners. Green Bay was ranked 23rd.

I think we'll see a lot of pounding up front as SF will run, run, run. Clark et al. will have to be strong. I think they'll run so the Smiths won't have as much of an impact, which they would if SF passes. They're going to test our front DL to the max and then try to hit Kittle on mid-length passes. Pettine has his work cut out for him this week figuring out how to get more beef in the box without letting Kittle destroy us.

On O, Rodgers is going to have to throw to that first open window and do it fast. He's not going to have time to wait for the second window as Bosa and gang will come hard. MLF and Rodgers are going to have to tire those guys out with the short, quick passing game and some plays to the sideline. I don't expect those sideline runs to work but you have to get those big guys chasing so they get a bit tired. 

No prediction; just want a really good game.

If you are looking for some optimism, here's a big reason to think this game will at least be competitive. 

In the November Niners game, Bulaga played 9 snaps. In 2 of the Packers' 3 losses, Bulaga played less than 40% of the snaps (he played 28 snaps against the Eagles). 

Alex Light played 70 snaps against the Niners. Alex Light will not play against the Niners this time. Bulaga should be good to go and, if he's not, Veldheer is a legit NFL OT. Veldheer is not an All-Pro, but he's not a Jason Spriggs/McCray turnstile out there like Light was (at least at this stage of his career). 

For the Packers to be competitive, their OL has to give Rodgers a chance. With Bulaga they are likely to be. With Veldheer they have a chance to be. 

Veldheer is Bruce Wilkerson a quarter of a century later. 

Re-watched the Wk 12 game. It was 10-0 9ers with 6:11 left in the 1st half. Then it was 23-0 at the half. Some crap football by GB O in those 6 minutes and 3 huge catches by Kittle and 1 by Samual gave SFO their points.

SFO played very physical football on both sides of the ball and only the GB D matched that intensity, but could not hold up with the O playing like it was MM calling the shots - did not see any BFI on offense.

Gonna need more production from Jones this week. He got in the EZ twice and had that great run to open the game but after that run he had 20 carries for 39 yards. Seattle did a good job on him yesterday and they had been getting gashed in the running game for a few weeks. 

Interested to see what we do;

Defense: Pettine's emphasis has been to not give up the big play in the passing game, create turnovers and make offense kick field goals. Does he remain true to his philosophy this week or does he run blitz and force Jimmy G to beat us?

Offense: Does MLF stick with what he has done all year an chalk the first game up to Bulaga being out Bak having a bad game or doers he roll AR out, move the pocket, spread them out, go hurry up to try to tire their pass rush? 

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