The Heckler posted:

What does that moneyline number mean? with the +270?  I have been wanting to ask that question but kept forgetting.

FloridaRob, you are correct they stand ZERO chance.  Neyt, nine, nada, zilch so they should just forfeit and be happy with the crown of worst 14-3 team in history.

+ indicates how much you'd win for betting $100.

+270 = Bet $100 to win $270

- indicates how much you need to bet to win $100

-150= Bet $150 to win $100

Prediction Time:

Niners will not let Adams beat them like Seattle did.    He will get doubled all day long.   This is going to open up things for some shot plays to Lazard and he will win some 50/50 balls. 

Jimmy G will gift the pack an early turnover and take a full half before the nerves start to wear off.   We simply have no answer for Kittle in 2nd half so we have to hope that the pass rush can get home before Jimmy can get rid of it.   

Packers 27 Niners 24.   Game ends on a Z Smith sack on a 4th down. 

BrainDed posted:

Prediction Time:

Niners will not let Adams beat them like Seattle did.    He will get doubled all day long.   This is going to open up things for some shot plays to Lazard and he will win some 50/50 balls. 

Jimmy G will gift the pack an early turnover and take a full half before the nerves start to wear off.   We simply have no answer for Kittle in 2nd half so we have to hope that the pass rush can get home before Jimmy can get rid of it.   

Packers 27 Niners 24.   Game ends on a Z Smith sack on a 4th down. 

It was shocking that the Seahawks didn't take Adams away. The rest of the receiving corps is squishy.

Lazard may not be 100% with that ankle.

excalibur posted:
BrainDed posted:

Prediction Time:

Niners will not let Adams beat them like Seattle did.    He will get doubled all day long.   This is going to open up things for some shot plays to Lazard and he will win some 50/50 balls. 

Jimmy G will gift the pack an early turnover and take a full half before the nerves start to wear off.   We simply have no answer for Kittle in 2nd half so we have to hope that the pass rush can get home before Jimmy can get rid of it.   

Packers 27 Niners 24.   Game ends on a Z Smith sack on a 4th down. 

It was shocking that the Seahawks didn't take Adams away. The rest of the receiving corps is squishy.

Lazard may not be 100% with that ankle.

Don't think Hawks had the personnel to do it. I saw a LOT of safety help headed toward him, but the Legion of Boom is no more.

The Packers and 49ers have a gold and interesting history/rivalry the last 20+ years in playoff games. The 90s Packers arrived in the โ€˜95 playoffs by beating SF at The Stick, beat the 49ers the following year in the mud to advance to the NFCC Game, beat them the following year to go to the Super Bowl, then finally losing to them the following year on the TO Catch II. Then thereโ€™s the BTB Kaepernick losses in 12/13. 

It's become an historic rivalry but all theyโ€™ll talk about this week is Rodgers in the draft. Stupid... 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/fe...ertified-mega-upset/

Excerpt: 

The Vikings could not block San Francisco. The 49ers paid for the pass rush with draft capital and trades, and they got their moneyโ€™s worth.

neil: I wonder if that will change next week against the No. 1 offensive line in pass block win rate.

Salfino: Thatโ€™s a great stat. This game suddenly got a lot more interesting, in my mind. Itโ€™s always tough to believe in a rematch when the last game that season was such a massacre, but thereโ€™s also the 2010 Jets over the Patriots, right?

neil: That one definitely sticks out in my mind as a rare major reversal between regular season and playoffs.

joshua.hermsmeyer: My research has shown that o-line has more of an effect on pass rush allowed than defense does in creating it, fwiw.

neil: Interesting!

Salfino: I believe that, Josh. The offense is mostly in control versus anything the defense does, based on all the data Iโ€™ve seen.

neil: Does the defense control its own destiny in anything???

Poor defenses. Always at the whims of the offense.

I think we'll see a lot of pounding up front as SF will run, run, run. Clark et al. will have to be strong. I think they'll run so the Smiths won't have as much of an impact, which they would if SF passes. They're going to test our front DL to the max and then try to hit Kittle on mid-length passes. Pettine has his work cut out for him this week figuring out how to get more beef in the box without letting Kittle destroy us.

On O, Rodgers is going to have to throw to that first open window and do it fast. He's not going to have time to wait for the second window as Bosa and gang will come hard. MLF and Rodgers are going to have to tire those guys out with the short, quick passing game and some plays to the sideline. I don't expect those sideline runs to work but you have to get those big guys chasing so they get a bit tired. 

No prediction; just want a really good game.

If you are looking for some optimism, here's a big reason to think this game will at least be competitive. 

In the November Niners game, Bulaga played 9 snaps. In 2 of the Packers' 3 losses, Bulaga played less than 40% of the snaps (he played 28 snaps against the Eagles). 

Alex Light played 70 snaps against the Niners. Alex Light will not play against the Niners this time. Bulaga should be good to go and, if he's not, Veldheer is a legit NFL OT. Veldheer is not an All-Pro, but he's not a Jason Spriggs/McCray turnstile out there like Light was (at least at this stage of his career). 

For the Packers to be competitive, their OL has to give Rodgers a chance. With Bulaga they are likely to be. With Veldheer they have a chance to be. 

Veldheer is Bruce Wilkerson a quarter of a century later.