ChilliJon posted:I dispise V8. McLures is the best. Then I'll doctor it up. I'm not a fan of the Bloody Mary side salad. Maybe a pickle spear and a jalapeño stuffed olive. But that's it.
I have chartreuse. Only the label says Sierra Mist. Decided against it.
Hand stuffed olives?
oldschool posted:Henry posted:turnip blood posted:The answer to Sitton being cut is how good is Taylor. Taylor seems to be the guy the Packers will use to replace Sitton. This whole thing could be that the Packers think Taylor is either close to or better then Sitton.
I highly doubt they believe Taylor is close to or better than Sitton. They likely think they have enough to patch the deficiency for now considering it's an interior position. Quite simply I think both sides are making a pros/cons list and taking some risk.
Quite honestly, the more and more I think about it, TT and extensions shouldn't even be part of the equation. It's happening. Everyone knows it's happening.
It's the roll of the dice for both sides on if Josh can stay effective due to health and neither side can be sure. I think both sides want to see Sitton on the team this year but both have a compelling argument as to contract demands. So I highly doubt this was some bolt out of the blue and TT just decided to do away with Sitton.
13 Million for one guy?...C'mon...is it really that HARD to figure out?
6.5 Million plus $400,000 for each game?
Christ...do your homework.
Your math is off. I believe the bonus is $400,000 total for the season, $25,000 per game.
Boris posted:Just pissed we don't get anything for him. That's my biggest beef with the move.
We get an extra $6.5m to sign our other players long term. That's what we got for him. You do not get that if you keep him for 1 more year.
Orlando Wolf posted:ChilliJon posted:I dispise V8. McLures is the best. Then I'll doctor it up. I'm not a fan of the Bloody Mary side salad. Maybe a pickle spear and a jalapeño stuffed olive. But that's it.
I have chartreuse. Only the label says Sierra Mist. Decided against it.
Hand stuffed olives?
Is there another option?
Grave danger?
I said olive. You said hand stuffed olives. I said is there another kind? .... I can have one of the mods read it back to you.
Florio is breaking out the spicy hot takes today:
The Packers reportedly weren’t willing to give Sitton the long-term deal he desired, which fueled the decision not to keep him for a contract year. The timing makes it harder for Sitton to contribute to another team this year, and it’s hard not to wonder whether the Packers made this decision months ago but decided to squat on Sitton for as long as possible to ensure that he can’t hurt them elsewhere in 2016.
Specifically, that he can’t hurt them as a member of the Bears, Lions, or Vikings.
Does that seem a little petty? Sure, but it was the Packers who refused to release Favre in 2008 so that he couldn’t play for a division rival and then traded him to the Jets with a term accelerating the compensation to three first-round draft picks if the Jets had traded Favre to the Bears, Lions, or Vikings.
That man hates the Packers.
Jeebus, Florio is even more delusional than normal.
Never go to his website.
When his mug shows up on the tube I change channels.
Tool.
If there was an anti-matter ChilliJon it would be him
Apparently Florio is nothing more than a gossip columnist.
What exactly does a guard contribute that could hurt another team? YAC?
cuqui posted:Never go to his website.
When his mug show up on the tube I change channels.
Tool.
If there was an anti-matter ChilliJon it would be him
Isn't Florio an atturdney as well?
He has zero proof of any of what he just printed on that webpage.
He can go **** himself on the Favre 2008 fiasco. He has no clue what he's talking about & is simply looking for clicks for his website.
Sitton vs Favre situations are apples & oranges.
Florio is still butthurt that he didn't get to kick cancer lady in the gonads like Rodgers did.
Sitton isn't threatening to retire and we don't have Jerry Kramer waiting on the bench.
Horrible take by that dip****.
Florio is an admitted Viking fan who runs a tabloid site. He transparently pushes his various agendas and his moment in the sun will, hopefully, end soon.
That said, there is something really odd about the timing of the release. Why make the decision the day of final cutdowns? How could this have been good for the Packers? We know it was not ideal for Sitton.
Pakrz posted:bvan posted:Pakrz posted:We'll be asking more questions when an injury occurs on the offensive line and the franchise is getting his ass kicked up to his ears.
And if that injury happens to Sitton on his new team ? ? ?
So let me get this straight... if Sitton gets his leg rolled up on and tears his ACL while playing football for the Bears, that is viewed as an "I told you so" because it obviously would have happened if he were playing in GB as well ? ? ?
Makes sense.
I'm thinking back injury, IF that was part of Ted's reason(s).
BrainDed posted:But they had some cap space, was it $10, to work with already. So it's not like they were totally handicapped. So how many, and who, does that $6 let them add in season?
For the love of Spaghetti, please don't tell me Eddie. That would be a huge gamble.
Right now with the cap change and their active deals in 2017 they will have roughly 18 mil in cap space. With good, healthy seasons Lang and Bakh could each easily command cap hits of 6 mil. Tretter 4, Perry 6. Rookie pool is like 5. Cook could command a cap hit of 6. Things add up pretty quick. Lacy, being a gamble, will likely get a front loaded deal in case he eats himself out of the league. So yeah that 7 mil from Sitton could actually make a huge difference for next year. If we can push even 7 mil of money from 2017 in to this cap we could have a really healthy situation. There are a lot of what-if scenarios where that money is very valuable. If it was no big deal and we didn't need it, I don't think Ted cuts Sitton. It's not a superficial move based on age or hoarding cap dollars.
I agree with Boris. Favre hinted at retirement for years and then did so and decided to renege on that. The Packers had him under contract and decided to hold him to that. He had become bigger than the team and created a circus around every move he made. The Packers were confident they would be better with Rodgers for the upcoming season (especially after Favre didn't show up for training camp or the team activities all off-season).
Sitton (as far as we know) never threatened to retire, hold out, and was fully prepared to play out the year under this contract. He showed up to everything all off-season and was a professional (as far as we know) in terms of preparing for the season. Sitton seemed (as far as we know) all about the team and was well liked by his teammates.
Even after a day, the decision to cut Sitton still stinks. I still don't see how this makes them anything but weaker for this season. I don't see the equivalent of Aaron Rodgers (or even an average level NFL guard) waiting in the wings to take Sitton's spot.
Friend sent me a text and asked me to check out Florios thoughts.
Skip level hot take stuff.
Grave Digger posted:BrainDed posted:But they had some cap space, was it $10, to work with already. So it's not like they were totally handicapped. So how many, and who, does that $6 let them add in season?
For the love of Spaghetti, please don't tell me Eddie. That would be a huge gamble.
With good, healthy seasons Lang and Bakh could each easily command cap hits of 8 mil. Tretter 4, Perry 6. Rookie pool is like 5. Cook could command a cap hit of 6. Things add up pretty quick. Lacy, being a gamble, will likely get a front loaded deal in case he eats himself out of the league. So yeah that 7 mil from Sitton could actually make a huge difference. Those guys will eat up a lot of year cap this year, what if we have a major injury and have to bring in a free agent? There are a lot of what-if scenarios where that money is very valuable. If it was no big deal and we didn't need it, I don't think Ted cuts Sitton. It's not a superficial move based on age or hoarding cap dollars.
As I've said before, anyone that signs Lacy to big money is making a big mistake. Last year, he wasn't professional enough to put the fork down to play for a team that had just missed the Super Bowl the previous year. Once he gets his bonus money, he's likely to balloon up to Bret Bielema levels. I hope he has a monster year and then ends up with someone like the Redskins giving him megabucks and us getting a 3rd round comp pick for him. If the Packers do extend him, I'll be happy to eat crow if he becomes a consistent All-Pro for a 3-4 year period, but guys that aren't fast to begin with tend to drop off incredibly quickly once they accumulate a lot of hits.
Lang is an All-Pro level guard, but the Packers (as others have said) seem not to think that OG is a key position. Is Bakh really a guy you can't live without -especially at 8-10 million a year? Spriggs probably has a higher ceiling anyway. If we are saving money for Bakh/Lang, do people think those kinds of guys (especially Bakh) are difference makers?
Do you remember the days before Bakh though? Before Lacy? They both made a HUGE difference. Lacy is in the top 5 in terms of yards since he came in to the league. You don't accomplish that by being a total slug. Bakh isn't Orlando Pace, but he's arguably a top 10 LT in the league. We could do a lot worse.
I was really thinking Spriggs was drafted to replace Bak, but he has grown on me. I don't see him as a "top 10" LT, but I do think he is worth resigning. The biggest question is how to get both he & Spriggs on the field. Move Bak or Bulaga to guard?
You can't have enough quality depth at tackle, especially someone who can capably play LT. History suggests Bahk and Bulaga will miss a couple of games each season if not more, or play with serious nicks. Spriggs will have plenty of chances.
Something not right about this Sitton mess, guess we have to deal with it. Let the auditions begin:
Wilde: Has to be more to the story.
If you can get past the nails on chalkboard radio host, Wilde and Chumura with some interesting takes. Also points out the silence (thus far) of guys like Rodgers/Lang. Which then makes you wonder if whatever the true reason is for his release, they understand it and aren't saying **** about it.
Jesus ****.q. Now we're kicking Fat Eddy and Bak down the street for sucking? I hope UWGB has a few players we can borrow.
Damn, he was my favorite OL. Loved his takes on The Big Show.
The silence from 1265 is deafening...
ChilliJon posted:Florio is breaking out the spicy hot takes today:
The Packers reportedly weren’t willing to give Sitton the long-term deal he desired, which fueled the decision not to keep him for a contract year. The timing makes it harder for Sitton to contribute to another team this year, and it’s hard not to wonder whether the Packers made this decision months ago but decided to squat on Sitton for as long as possible to ensure that he can’t hurt them elsewhere in 2016.
Specifically, that he can’t hurt them as a member of the Bears, Lions, or Vikings.
Does that seem a little petty? Sure, but it was the Packers who refused to release Favre in 2008 so that he couldn’t play for a division rival and then traded him to the Jets with a term accelerating the compensation to three first-round draft picks if the Jets had traded Favre to the Bears, Lions, or Vikings.
That man hates the Packers.
It's because he's a Vajeen fan and just got back from knob washing Spielman.
Pakrz posted:Jesus ****.q. Now we're kicking Fat Eddy and Bak down the street for sucking? I hope UWGB has a few players we can borrow.
Not saying they suck, but are either the type of guys you want to put big money into?
GreenBayLA posted:
Which is what is fueling all these rumors/conspiracy theories. That TJ Lang in particular (his best friend) hasn't come out and said anything in protest thus far is making you wonder whether the reason is one where players know it, but can't or won't say anything.
Remember AR went to TT's office in protest over James Jones release and also openly criticized Kuhn's release as well in the past. There are guys on this team who aren't shy of being vocal (including Sitton himself). And yet, deafening silence from everyone.
Protest????????? This is a business. Do you protest when people get laid off or fired???????????
MichiganPacker2 posted:Pakrz posted:Jesus ****.q. Now we're kicking Fat Eddy and Bak down the street for sucking? I hope UWGB has a few players we can borrow.
Not saying they suck, but are either the type of guys you want to put big money into?
Bak would be an extension that likely won't break the bank when you consider what LT's can sign for. Some of those contracts can be outrageously high. And he's a solid LT who I think TT can sign for a reasonable deal.
For Lacy, much bigger risk IMO. And considering the value RB's have in today's NFL, I can easily see TT low balling Lacy in a 2-3 year offer. Which he would understandably pass on.
GBFanForLife posted:Protest????????? This is a business. Do you protest when people get laid off or fired???????????
You've never heard of players being vocal after a locker room favorite is cut? It happens all the time in the NFL. This isn't some banking gig where an accountant is laid off for **** sakes. Yes, players get it's a business. But as Wilde pointing out in the above podcast, it's a bit strange none of these players so far have come out and said ANYTHING. It's not like leaders such as Rodgers haven't done it before.
Which just goes to show, there is something we don't know.
GBFanForLife posted:Protest????????? This is a business. Do you protest when people get laid off or fired???????????
I do but I'm an asshole.
GBFanForLife posted:Which just goes to show, there is something we don't know.
Exactly; does not add up that this is based on: 1) Sitton's health 2) Young player's ready right now to replace him 3) $ . He is not that great a cap hit, he is still a much better option than current replacement, we don't get a comp pick. All this adds up to something else being the etiology of the move
I have been dealing with it for 16 years and I kiss nobodies ass. There ain't **** you can do when the upper management does what they do. You just move on and do your job.
