@Blair Kiel posted:I’m just going to put it out there that there is no point in the season that I’ll be sucking anyone’s dick. Hope this helps with planning.
Is kissing ass out, too?
He's been known to toss a salad or two so don't give up hope!
https://lombardiave.com/posts/...t-joe-barry-panthers
Scathing article
He clearly doesn’t want to let Barry go, clinging to him more than Drayton, which was an awful situation. I don’t know what it is with lack of accountability and this org, but it has to change ASAP. Words are next to worthless, actions are the way we are rightfully judged.
Exactly.
MLF doesn’t have the cajones to be a head coach.
you can’t be everyone’s friend.
ask Bill bellecheck
@tsr86free posted:He clearly doesn’t want to let Barry go,
Guess what? He doesn't have a choice any more.
He's most likely going to stick around to develop Jordan Love probably one more season......unless they win playoff games.
The most important thing is Love's development. Fuck Bury and Fuck MLF at this point
Generally agree with Herman's overall conclusions.
MLF has to crush this DC hire.
Agree with Herman here.
I'll just add MLF needs to hire a DC that will challenge him.
Saleh would be perfect but Woody (NY Jets) came out and said Saleh & Douglas aren't going anywhere.
He cannot possibly keep Joe Bury but he has to nail this next DC hire
Pleased to see the ridiculous calls for MLF's termination have evaporated.
@michiganjoe posted:Pleased to see the ridiculous calls for MLF's termination have evaporated.
wait until Sunday night if the Packers lose . Packers win. Great. Packers lose fire the whole organization.
The week is young ..let's see how bad they play vs. Cowboys....or good 😁
@Floridarob posted:wait until Sunday night if the Packers lose . Packers win. Great. Packers lose fire the whole organization.
Oh the Eeyore mafia will be out if full force if the Packers lose.
@The Heckler posted:Oh the Eeyore mafia will be out if full force if the Packers lose.
I don’t think so. Expectations have been exceeded. They were not being met earlier in the season. Pretty simple formula.
I expected them to struggle and predicted a 6 win season. I expected them to look like they actually plated football before. Lots of whiffs by the o line, receivers running wrong routes. Almost looked comical. Never mind the defense. I would like to know what was done or said to turn things around. It's all gravy from here.
If the Packers lose a close one there will be several who will post they want Love traded, they want MLF fired, they want Gutey fired.
If the Packers lose in a blow out there will be several who will post they want Love traded, they want MLF fired, they want Gutey fired.
If the Packers win it will be crickets.
Agree with you ammo. However, I will add, that if they do win, we will all still agree to fire Joe Barry. That said, maybe Greg Gard can coach defense????
@ammo posted:If the Packers lose a close one there will be several who will post they want Love traded, they want MLF fired, they want Gutey fired.
If the Packers lose in a blow out there will be several who will post they want Love traded, they want MLF fired, they want Gutey fired.
If the Packers win it will be crickets.
If the Packers win, there will be several who will post they want Love traded, they want MLF fired, they want Gutey fired.
Fixed that for you. 
His best win today and he's one of the best offensive minds in the entire league, IMO.
@michiganjoe posted:Pleased to see the ridiculous calls for MLF's termination have evaporated.
I was wrrr…we..wrong.😊
How did that beta LaFluer beat that big manly alpha McCarthy?
MLF must have eaten his Wheaties the mornings of the last eight to 10 games. Dang, he's been good. Got guys running free, misdirection plays... wow. Now, if he could only dump Barry, we'd all be really, really happy.
After yesterdays game he's giving people the impression that all Love has to do is wait a few seconds then hit the wide open guy. It's not always that easy you bunch of casual NFL fans. 
MLF has always downplayed his part. He takes all the blame (except when he called out Nixon) and deflects all the credit. This year, it seems like he's been more emotional and willing to get on guys during games. The way he's getting guys open is... wow. Have you ever seen a guy so all alone on the prairie like Musgrave was yesterday? Yes, Love has had to play his part and some of his throws have been incredible. But once MLF understood how to call plays for this group, they took off. There's been a lot of times when this season could have been a Dumpster fire, but MLF has done a great job. We might have underestimated him. One thing is for sure: dumping Rodgers was good for MLF.
ps: if MLF doesn't dump Barry, then I want a do-over. 
Good piece from Demovsky on MLF (and Love) Key point:
If anyone thought LaFleur's success in his first three years -- which included back-to-back-to-back 13-win seasons and two NFC Championship Game appearances -- was simply a ride on Rodgers' coattails, then what he has done with Love this season should dispel that notion.
@michiganjoe posted:Good piece from Demovsky on MLF (and Love) Key point:
If anyone thought LaFleur's success in his first three years -- which included back-to-back-to-back 13-win seasons and two NFC Championship Game appearances -- was simply a ride on Rodgers' coattails, then what he has done with Love this season should dispel that notion.
Counter point: MLF went from riding the coattails of a future hall of fame quarterback to riding the coattails of another future hall of fame quarterback. It's Clements, stupid.
That will certainly be the next chant. "He's only had HOF QBs!".
The remedy to that argument is an offense full of rookies and sophomores.
After the Packers "arrived" this season....Do you know when that was? They barely hung on to beat the Chargers after a Keenan Allen dropped TD pass. That wasn't the game....but it was the start....
They arrived this season after haymakering the Lions on Thanksgiving, then continued it beating KC on Sunday Night....that's when they arrived....
Then something happened the next 2-3 weeks & they reverted to early season form vs. the Giants and Tampa and Carolina, going 1-2 over those 3 games with MLF's first losses in December and barely beating the Panthers, 33-30.
We were all screaming for Berry's firing. We still are! Lol....but something changed & I think it's all MLF. He's pouring his soul into this team this year and THAT is what a good HC does. He's involved in all facets of the team but MLF is right....there's only so many hours in the day.
His focus is certainly the offense, of course, but he's involved in the defense too...there's no other explanation for the immediate turn aRound since that Panthers game.
Now....a new challenge and a familiar foe....one facet of the team he should NOT ignore is Special Teams. Bisaccia should have those guys focused and....GASP... Make a big play on Saturday Night! THE PACKERS MAKE A GAME CHANGING PLAY ON SPECIAL TEAMS.... 😯😳
All I ask is something very simple....for the love of all that's holy....PLEASE....
MAKE THIS GAME COMPETITIVE!!
or blowout the Niners on their field either way....just please don't get boat raced like Jan 2020.
if the Packers lose this game on a missed field goal or missed extra point, the rookie kicker may not be allowed back on the plane.
@Boris posted:Then something happened the next 2-3 weeks & they reverted to early season form vs. the Giants and Tampa and Carolina, going 1-2 over those 3 games with MLF's first losses in December and barely beating the Panthers, 33-30.
Joe Barry was working remotely from Door County.
@Boris posted:His focus is certainly the offense, of course, but he's involved in the defense too...there's no other explanation for the immediate turn a Round since that Panthers game.
MAKE THIS GAME COMPETITIVE!!
or blowout the Niners on their field either way....just please don't get boat raced like Jan 2020.
I don't think its an accident that suddenly the defense is starting to play something resembling defense for a few weeks now since MLF became more involved. I have nothing to base this upon but I bet MFL sat down with defensive players to get their honest opinion for how to improve. Again just a hunch but I think that is what a good HC does and talks to his players to see what they think and feel out there and how to improve.
I just want a competitive game but there is a huge part of me that wants to curb stomp SF and pay them back.
The biggest mystery of the season is so far the defensive turnaround. The indicators seem to point to MLF inserting his will. I've noticed not only schematic changes and surprises but they look like they're playing more physical too and with some attitude. This is most noticeable in their tackling.
If MLF listened to the players and or put them in sets that they felt more comfortable with, did the players then in turn regain some swagger and confidence knowing they're not simply playing a preventative game but a more attacking one?
Did the offense's emergence and ability to score 30pts on their opponent grant the defense the leeway it needed to take more risks and make more plays?
Or was it actually Joe Barry. He's turned his defenses up late in the season every year he's been here. Is this the same thing?
@Boris posted:Now....a new challenge and a familiar foe....one facet of the team he should NOT ignore is Special Teams. Bisaccia should have those guys focused and....GASP... Make a big play on Saturday Night! THE PACKERS MAKE A GAME CHANGING PLAY ON SPECIAL TEAMS.... 😯😳
There is a sneaking suspicion that SF finds another way to exploit a ST weakness. Bisaccia has been up and down this year. They're flirting with disaster on those short kickoffs. XPT and FG have been a bit of an adventure. What has looked solid so far, save Reed's wiff on the one, has been the onsides kicks, which have become incredibly low success rate plays in the NFL. I wonder if SF could catch us off guard with an unplanned onsides kick somewhere in the middle of the game.
Great, now I'm having flashforwards instead of flashbacks.
I can't remember which game or the specific circumstance but there was a defensive play that went bad and I thought MLF would lose his mind. He was stomping up and down the sideline and I thought Joe Blow would get fired any second. But it was about the time the D turned things around.
I think that was in the Bears game. Some play where it was DBs the usual far off and a short pass (WR screen?) turned into a pretty good gain?
No it was earlier in the season. Maybe the Panther game.
Season ending presser
This is where he will tell us Joe Barry is an outstanding coach and that he plans on retaining him, I just know it