LeBron's school

Music City posted:

You don’t think the cancer lies in the violent fascism of the left?

What, exactly, do you think fascism is? 

I'm hard pressed to think you'll find someone on the left that supports authoritarian ultranationalism exemplified by a single party state and dictator like leadership of government. For anyone with a functioning cerebral cortex that sounds like 180 from any actual lefty. 

But I get it. Obviously, it's far easier for people like you to simply parrot whatever Mike Cernovich or Jim Holt or Ben Shapiro or Tammy Lohren (yeah I know) or Tucker Carlson or Richard Spencer tells you to bleat. Especially since this simply continues a long history of angry, under-educated, underemployed, white guys that perpetually need to find someone or something to blame the myriad problems in their lives on. If it's not the blacks, it's the immigrants, or Muslims, or now more and more it's Democrats...

And, you may want to check in to the central office for the latest talking points as I think you've gotten them confused. Leftists can't be simultaneously Fascists and Antifa.

Music City posted:

Henry posted:

This is the entire crux of the cancer in our society.  I kept seeing polls with absurd numbers of Republicans who believe Russia is an ally or Trump should be able to shut down news organizations or imprisoning children was okay because they asked for it.   

You don’t think the cancer lies in the violent fascism of the left? Demonstrated damned near daily, you support the squelching of conservatives through censorship and fascist shout downs in public? You don’t think it’s just a bit problematic that anyone opposed to leftist world think is abused and publicly harassed? No, the cancer is Trump supporters, most of which are not pleased with his Twitter feed or the trade policy, but happy with the majority of the administration’s policies so far. What the f ever, Cenk Uyger. 

Fantasies about him destroying democracy or destroying the country... complete. Crap. 

But, But, But, I thought we were commies? Now we’re Fascists? I wish you Trumpster Divers would make up your mind!

#nazijewism

CAPackFan95 posted:

Music City posted:

You don’t think the cancer lies in the violent fascism of the left?

What, exactly, do you think fascism is? 

I'm hard pressed to think you'll find someone on the left that supports authoritarian ultranationalism exemplified by a single party state and dictator like leadership of government. For anyone with a functioning cerebral cortex that sounds like 180 from any actual lefty.  

No one on the left endorses fascism... is that so? Alexandria Ocazio Cortez and her boy Bernie would beg to differ. They’re fully endorsing state control of just about everything. “The new face of the Democrat Party”, right? 

You think socialism and fascism are the same thing?

Jesus you are a fukking moron. 

Henry posted:

Dog whistling?  It's shouting it from the mountain tops.  You should try supporting democratic ideals.  

Pssst, the structure of the military isn't democratic because it shouldn't be if you want to stay alive or party with your buddies in Okinawa.  You do understand the whole reasoning and functioning behind a civilian military in a free society don't you?  I could add that to the list for our discussion. 

WTF do you know about the structure of the military? You know- me and my ilk that  you have so much disdain for. 

And about that ol military is a great example of socialism thing- there is no greater example for why a nation of 350M people should avoid the principals of socialism (I.e., state control over of everything) than the military. Fraud, waste, abuse, unbridled bureaucracy, consistent degradation of quality... you know- socialism!!! 

And the only saving grace in living that life is knowing there’s and end to it and you’re serving a grateful (or in your case, ungrateul) nation. And there is certainly no coincidence that the vast majority of folks who have served despise socialism in any of its nuanced forms. They’ve seen it from the inside. No thanks. 

I fully support democratic ideals- like equality of opportunity. Small government. Individual liberty. 

I have been listening to a lot of Jordan Peterson.  I believe he has well shown that there is a facet of the left that embraces a belief system similar (identical?) to what produced the Soviet and Chinese systems that resulted in the deaths of many tens of millions of lives.

Part of the belief system is group identity and a world view that is "us against them."

fascism (făshˈĭzˌəm)

• n.
  A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

Yeah, there is a fascist element to the radical left.

Lindsey Shepherd's experiences are a great example.

https://www.therebel.media/wat...pherd_s_legal_battle

But, there are others.  Just a couple days ago, I saw a video of a somewhat brutish looking liberal protestor who sucker-punched an elderly man wearing a Trump shirt.  Saw another video of leftist violence showing a young woman with a smug expression on her face as she says a few times, "Oh, I didn't see anything!"

Sure, the same must happen thanks to the far right, but the far left is resorting to this far more.

CAPackFan95 posted:

You think socialism and fascism are the same thing?

Jesus you are a fukking moron. 

Socialism has only one destination... pick up a history book dickhead.

LOL

phaedrus posted:

I have been listening to a lot of Jordan Peterson. 

Intentionally? Or you're being held hostage by an incel? Should I call the authorities? 

phaedrus posted:

I have been listening to a lot of Jordan Peterson.  I believe he has well shown that there is a facet of the left that embraces a belief system similar (identical?) to what produced the Soviet and Chinese systems that resulted in the deaths of many tens of millions of lives.

Part of the belief system is group identity and a world view that is "us against them."

fascism (făshˈĭzˌəm)

►

• n.
  A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

 

Yeah, there is a fascist element to the radical left.

Lindsey Shepherd's experiences are a great example.

https://www.therebel.media/wat...pherd_s_legal_battle

But, there are others.  Just a couple days ago, I saw a video of a somewhat brutish looking liberal protestor who sucker-punched an elderly man wearing a Trump shirt.  Saw another video of leftist violence showing a young woman with a smug expression on her face as she says a few times, "Oh, I didn't see anything!"

Sure, the same must happen thanks to the far right, but the far left is resorting to this far more.

I've had to read this a few times (there is never not something interesting in a Phaedrus post).  A couple things I noticed.

First point: Damn right there are nutjob leftists.  I feel this is a true statement.  

Second point:  That is a definition.  

Third point: Shepherd is Canadian, right?  At a school in Canada.  

Fourth point (and really the crux here):  Am I correct that you took two anecdotes and made a sweeping generalization about a population?  While being brutish and smug is extremely damning, isn't this something we'd like to avoid doing at all levels?  I can google right wing violence and find video's too, just like I can find videos of police brutality, teachers demeaning kids, pastors being racist, and presidents making fun of disabilities.  Anecdotes don't equal data.  

Biggest bullying problem for children?

Cats.  

Catts? That bitch!

Music City posted:

Henry posted:

Dog whistling?  It's shouting it from the mountain tops.  You should try supporting democratic ideals.  

Pssst, the structure of the military isn't democratic because it shouldn't be if you want to stay alive or party with your buddies in Okinawa.  You do understand the whole reasoning and functioning behind a civilian military in a free society don't you?  I could add that to the list for our discussion. 

WTF do you know about the structure of the military? You know- me and my ilk that  you have so much disdain for. 

And about that ol military is a great example of socialism thing- there is no greater example for why a nation of 350M people should avoid the principals of socialism (I.e., state control over of everything) than the military. Fraud, waste, abuse, unbridled bureaucracy, consistent degradation of quality... you know- socialism!!! 

And the only saving grace in living that life is knowing there’s and end to it and you’re serving a grateful (or in your case, ungrateul) nation. And there is certainly no coincidence that the vast majority of folks who have served despise socialism in any of its nuanced forms. They’ve seen it from the inside. No thanks. 

I fully support democratic ideals- like equality of opportunity. Small government. Individual liberty. 

This is my favorite spin out yet.  It's like socialism Jenga.  You pull the right piece and scream SOCIALISM!

BTW, don't cross the streams.  You're definitely crossing the streams. 

Music City posted:

Only hate happening today is coming from the left. My ilk (as Henry put it) consist of folks who support the military, conservatism, and policies that benefit Americans of all races and creeds.

Ok, I'll bite.  Can you name the current policies put forth by this administration in the last 2 years that benefit "Americans of all races and creeds."?

 Also, define support the military.  Anyone who pays federal taxes, by definition, supports the military.  Is it who sings the loudest with the national anthem or has the biggest flagpole outside their house?

Just what are conservatives conserving?   Other than their own shekels.

For the record, Jesus was a big ole socialist.  

I also believe, if asked "what bathroom should transgender kids pee in" Jesus would have said* "If they have to pee, let them pee."  

*

I also think Al Franken should have stepped down.  Touching boobs without permission is evil

I apologize, this is just how absurd this thread has become to me.  I contributed to the absurdity with my sarcastic **** mouth.  

Be kind*, realize that the human brain is wired to be deceived and Hanlon's razor is most often true.  

*except for chickenboy and the dumb**** viking fans.  Brutishly punch them with smug faces.  

El-Ka-Bong posted:

I can google right wing violence and find video's too, just like I can find videos of police brutality, teachers demeaning kids, pastors being racist, and presidents making fun of disabilities.  Anecdotes don't equal data.  

Or murder.  That's an easy one to find. 

El-Ka-Bong posted:

For the record, Jesus was a big ole socialist.  

I also believe, if asked "what bathroom should transgender kids pee in" Jesus would have said* "If they have to pee, let them pee."  

*

Bernie is a big lena  socialist.

Goalline posted:

Catts? That bitch!

Those cankles produce some massive torque

I look at this thread as a result of a change made by both political parties a few years ago.  About ten years ago, I can recall having a conversation with a head of a state political party about how it seemed like candidates were getting more and more extreme.  It used to be that the parties would try to pick a candidate somewhere in the middle, with the goal being to try and win the election with the help of the middle independents.  I was quite astounded when his response was that they really didn't care about the middle anymore.  The new strategy by both parties has changed from "keep it in the middle" to "motivate the base."  Essentially, the strategy is that you are better off winning the election by making sure that your base votes, and not to worry about the middle anymore.  Unfortunately, that is forcing most people (whom I still believe fall more in the middle) to choose an extreme on either side.  When you look over the recent elections, it is very obvious that both parties are employing this strategy, and it also explains why Trump, for example, doesn't really care about his overall poll numbers, he only cares about his base approval ratings.  

Now with all that said, I do hope that we are at the end of the pendulum and that we will start to swing back towards the middle again.  I think that the party that figures out how to do this in the era of fox news and msnbc will benefit.  

The Bill of Bob:

I value people, not just those I like or those who are like me.  Except Jaymo.  He's just a punk ass bitch.

I don't generally like groups of people and I refuse to lose my individuality within a group, unless it is to momentarily cheer for a Packers' touchdown.

I value strength, but don't devalue those who don't have it.

I value hard work and autonomy, while I also value supporting those who are not able to work hard or who cannot function autonomously.  

I have no desire to dominate others, but will not tolerate others attempting to dominate me.

The value of life is to care for others, laugh a lot, and cheer for the Green Bay Packers.

Everything else is arguing about who belongs to what group and which group is better.  

I love you Bob.

...and the blacks and the gays.....

...I've changed. 

You’ve evolved into a black lesbian?

"Freedom of the press" means nothing when publishers use this 'freedom' to promote their own agendas. Facts are no longer important, but the rush to be first and/or to create sensationalism is. 
There is no difference between Republicans and Democrats. These parties are nothing but vehicles to launder money, and have far outlived their usefulness to the political process. Candidates are not promoted based on their beliefs or experience; they're promoted on how much money they donate or generate for their party.
The truth is graft and corruption continues as usual no matter who the President is, and no matter the political party they belong to. It exists at every level of government from local to state to Federal. This renders most arguments about who (or what) is right or wrong moot. 

MC, thinking it does not make me stupid, but I could be wrong in my opinion of you. I only have what you post here to go off of.

I'm a moderate conservative, always have been.

Still wondering what it is we need to make great again. 

Trump is dangerous because he is a doofus with a lot of power.

Again, what LeBron did was a really good thing. I think that's what this thread is about. 

Music City posted:

Just playing the games by the house rules...

El-Ka-Bong posted:

If you are playing by the house rules, I'm not sure you get to complain about them.  

Just to add to this...

1. You're not playing by "house rules"
2. You're the one causing problems & name-calling
3. And BTW....I'd get directly in your face & tell you whatever the F**K I wanted as relates to your bull$#!T view of the world - while Henry is in line holding his "number" from the ticker.

Just calling a Spade....a Spade....in my house, playing by house rules in a thread about LeBron doing something very nice for the kids.

LeBron > Jordan on the court.  

LeBron >>>>>>>>>>>> Jordan off the court. 

El Ka Bong,

Appreciate the anecdote observation.  I do believe there is more violence from the left.  I'll leave it at that.

On Shepherd being Canadian.  Yeah, and I see cultural/social similarity between the countries.

Dr._Bob posted:

The Bill of Bob:

I value people, not just those I like or those who are like me.  Except Jaymo.  He's just a punk ass bitch.

I don't generally like groups of people and I refuse to lose my individuality within a group, unless it is to momentarily cheer for a Packers' touchdown.

I value strength, but don't devalue those who don't have it.

I value hard work and autonomy, while I also value supporting those who are not able to work hard or who cannot function autonomously.  

I have no desire to dominate others, but will not tolerate others attempting to dominate me.

The value of life is to care for others, laugh a lot, and cheer for the Green Bay Packers.

Everything else is arguing about who belongs to what group and which group is better.  

 

Stick with a winner. 

phaedrus posted:

Appreciate the anecdote observation.  I do believe there is more violence from the left.  I'll leave it at that.

And you may.  You might even be correct.  I worry though because too many people seek out information that fits their already preconceived notions and we seem to be a nation of confirmation bias right now

phaedrus posted:

 

Appreciate the anecdote observation.  I do believe there is more violence from the left.  I'll leave it at that.

 

So every time a gay person gets beat up it was done by a liberal

So ever time  there is a school shooting it is done by a liberal.

So Hillary Clinton stood on stage and said, "Go ahead. Beat him up. I'll pay your legal bills"

You need to stop watching FOX news. 

phaedrus posted:

El Ka Bong,

Appreciate the anecdote observation.  I do believe there is more violence from the left.  I'll leave it at that.

On Shepherd being Canadian.  Yeah, and I see cultural/social similarity between the countries.

And, really, for people like you, facts are irrelevant, especially facts that aren't what you want them to be, and all that matters is what you believe. 

Kinda like I believe that your daily morning ritual entails you guzzling 16 oz of rhino cum and then molesting collies.

I'll leave it at that. 

Rhino cum is the new kale.  

His skin is radiant now. 

"Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest"

Simon/The Boxer

CAPACKFAN95:

And, really, for people like you, facts are irrelevant, especially facts that aren't what you want them to be, and all that matters is what you believe. 

It is not possible you know me sufficient to be qualified to describe me as you do.

Given you are highly intelligent, I am guessing an astonishing level of arrogance.