Tom Brady would find a way to circumvent the CBA to sneak in extra practices while negotiating a pay-cut on the speakerphone to help the team, but I guess that's just not something Jordan L. Rodgers aka the The Bachelor is willing to do.
3 of these me me me QBs in a row ffs
Saint Brady,
wife with a lot of cash
Football deflator
Part of an organization that spied on other teams.
Got the blessing on almost every call Ask Charles Woodson
Good read here.
@AaronNagler: Extremely well done from @JuMosq laying out what the Packers and Love's camp are undoubtedly trying to work through. Touches on something @BillSchmidRadio and I discussed last week: Guarantees past the first year. Packers just don't do it. We'll see.
https://www.acmepackingcompany...s-adam-schefter-espn
@ilcuqui posted:Good read here.
@AaronNagler: Extremely well done from @JuMosq laying out what the Packers and Love's camp are undoubtedly trying to work through. Touches on something @BillSchmidRadio and I discussed last week: Guarantees past the first year. Packers just don't do it. We'll see.
https://www.acmepackingcompany...s-adam-schefter-espn
Spoon said the same thing, the Packers like paying signing bonuses and getting everything paid in cash up front. They don't like later year guarantees because the future is unknown and they like what's known.
Players obviously want to prepare for future unknowns so more than likely this is the holdup. Spoon said they probably know things like the cost and total guarantees, the question is probably when they are due.
Known unknowns or unknown knowns
That is the crux of the conundrum.
@Iowacheese posted:Football deflator
Part of an organization that spied on other teams.
Brady cheated to help the team. Favray cheated his wife and the taxpayers of Mississippi. The peyote hippy cheated on his medical disclosures and his cell-phone coverage.
We should be so lucky as to have a QB that will cheat for the team. But they all care about their meal ticket too much to risk a suspension.
Yes, I expect Jordan Love to have new contract soon.
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) July 23, 2024
Key metrics I look for:
1. Length - longer better for GB, shorter better for Love. Market always going up.
2. Guarantee - when GB can "get out" if things go south.
3. 1, 2 and 3-year cash (not Cap) compared to recent QB deals.
Why do I have this feeling they are trying to finalize an 8-10 year deal??
10 years $500M
Mark it down?!?!
@Boris posted:Why do I have this feeling they are trying to finalize an 8-10 year deal??
10 years $500M
Mark it down?!?!
How do I unmark your previous mark it down 5yr 280 mil post
@Pikes Peak posted:How do I unmark your previous mark it down 5yr 280 mil post
That's why the "?!?!?!" 😁
Problem solved!!! pic.twitter.com/ZzKUxKszMe
— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) July 23, 2024
“I always clapback at people who say ‘well, if you have a $50 million quarterback you can’t build a roster.’ Sure you can.”
— Maggie and Perloff (@MaggieandPerl) July 23, 2024
Columnist and former NFL executive Andrew Brandt pushes back on the narrative that spending on a high-priced QB makes it impossible to build around them. pic.twitter.com/hYIr2nWxDv
I hope Russ Ballz got the memo from Brandt...
@Chongo posted:“I always clapback at people who say ‘well, if you have a $50 million quarterback you can’t build a roster.’ Sure you can.”
Brandt has been trying to illuminate fans about this for a decade now. It doesn't matter how much you pay a QB, only that he plays up to that level.
A recent example is Trevor Lawrence - a Tier 2 or 3 QB making top tier QB money - and the problem is that he will never play up to that deal.
That's why the Jags will continue to suck
IF Fabio was as good as his contract indicates, it won't hamstring your team-building efforts. But because he's using up extra cap space and not delivering a level of performance commensurate with his paycheck, it precludes the Jags from adding enough talent around him to overcome the fact... that you overpaid your QB.
And there is the rub. Not many QB's earning what they make but they're so hard to find that most teams will take the risk on what appears to be an ascending player, or one they can't afford to replace with someone better. It's a tough spot to be in.
Packers fans (and many around the league) are all waiting to hear if Jordan Love's new BIG contract is complete. Based on my conversations today, it's all making progress and heading there. Just not done at this time.
— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) July 25, 2024
Any day now (or minute).
@Satori posted:Brandt has been trying to illuminate fans about this for a decade now. It doesn't matter how much you pay a QB, only that he plays up to that level.
A recent example is Trevor Lawrence - a Tier 2 or 3 QB making top tier QB money - and the problem is that he will never play up to that deal.
That's why the Jags will continue to suck
IF Fabio was as good as his contract indicates, it won't hamstring your team-building efforts. But because he's using up extra cap space and not delivering a level of performance commensurate with his paycheck, it precludes the Jags from adding enough talent around him to overcome the fact... that you overpaid your QB.
Trevor Lawrence is better than you think. He got no help from his team last year. He probably had 5 touchdowns flat out dropped.
8-10 years, guaranteed money as he progresses thru the contract & the new league year begins... just like Mahomes. $500 Million. Mahomes is 10/$450.
That style contract also helps protect the Packers too while Love gets paid.
That's my guess 🤷🏻
@DH13 posted:And there is the rub. Not many QB's earning what they make but they're so hard to find that most teams will take the risk on what appears to be an ascending player, or one they can't afford to replace with someone better. It's a tough spot to be in.
The QB market is way out of balance, and has been for the last handful of years.
Having to pay $40M+ yearly to marginally talented players is terrible for the teams.
$50M and up might get a good team and some success, but it hasn't bought a SB win....yet.
The worst of it may be that it's not likely to change.
Today on Nine To Noon with John Kuhn they were saying that the NFL needs to go to 2 salary caps. 1 just for QBs and 1 for the rest of the team. The dramatic rise in QB salaries is driving the salary cap all out of whack. Something needs to be done and that was the solution.
That would have a much more direct impact on backup QBs. The best QBs will be backed up by the worst ones.
It's all Monopoly money. Pro sports are ridiculously out of whack with what they pay athletes and what we pay to watch them. You have to shell out an average of $120/ticket to NFL games, $35 for MLB, $90-$130 for NHL, $73 for NBA, and so on. It's mind-boggling to think of a QB getting $50 million a year when in the fourth quarter of 2023, the average salary in the US was $59,384 -- and that was up 5.4% from the prior year!
At say, $60,000 just for rounding purposes, it would take more than 833 years to make $50 million. Dang. That's depressing.
65k is the benchmark
@ammo posted:Today on Nine To Noon with John Kuhn they were saying that the NFL needs to go to 2 salary caps. 1 just for QBs and 1 for the rest of the team. The dramatic rise in QB salaries is driving the salary cap all out of whack. Something needs to be done and that was the solution.
All of this is a result of rule changes that give inflated importance to QB's. Change the rules to not give as much importance to QBs and all of the salary issues would change.
Of course this will never happen because the NFL wants high scoring games, and yet, the average score of NFL games hasn't changed much of over the last 30 years, so there's really no point to many of the rule changes.
What are the trademark numbers?
Earmark?
Watermark?
Bizmark?
Marky Mark?
Gonna leave a mark.
@Boris posted:8-10 years, guaranteed money as he progresses thru the contract & the new league year begins... just like Mahomes. $500 Million. Mahomes is 10/$450.
That style contract also helps protect the Packers too while Love gets paid.
That's my guess 🤷🏻
I'm going with 6 years, 360 mil.
How about 10 years, specific percent of the yearly salary cap.
That's it then. A percentage of the gate like a movie star gets. And most of the tea in China.
Packers Twitter tomorrow if the Jordan Love deal still isn’t done. pic.twitter.com/r2ANnJBoNS
— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) July 25, 2024
The Packers Trying to Negotiate with Jordan Love pic.twitter.com/Zi6lUDTxkZ
— Tom Grossi (@tomgrossicomedy) July 25, 2024
I assume this is about Jordan Love's contract extention?
— Aden (@AdenChiz) July 26, 2024
Jori Epstein, one of Yahoo's Senior NFL writers, recently visited Packers camp and has a segment discussing her time there (starting at 10:00). She also had a comment from MLF at 8:15 discussing how he's altered his development style with QBs.
.@GregJennings says one thing is for SURE about his Green Bay Packers:
— The Carton Show (@TheCartonShow) July 26, 2024
"Jordan Love is going to have a year." pic.twitter.com/xbfaJJ3YSR
What year is he going to have? 
@Boris posted:.@GregJennings says one thing is for SURE about his Green Bay Packers:
— The Carton Show (@TheCartonShow) July 26, 2024
"Jordan Love is going to have a year." pic.twitter.com/xbfaJJ3YSR
Hopefully he talked to his sister....
