It’s coming, like it or not. Look forward to “The Vincent T. Lombardi Dome”
Hopefully far enough in the future that it will be The Love Dome at Lambeau Field.
Could be a senior moment but when was the last time the Packers won an important game in cold temps (T<20F) at Lambeau? Rams in div round 2020? Was that even a cold game? I know they've lost several NFCCG at home in frigid temps recently. I remember the narrative that AR would actually play better in a dome in the playoffs. It will be interesting to see how this new group does if a similar situation arises.
The mystique left IMO when Vick came to town. In reality it only existed for a few years. In most games the better team usually wins, weather and location rank behind talent.
@DH13 posted:Could be a senior moment but when was the last time the Packers won an important game in cold temps (T<20F) at Lambeau? Rams in div round 2020? Was that even a cold game? I know they've lost several NFCCG at home in frigid temps recently. I remember the narrative that AR would actually play better in a dome in the playoffs. It will be interesting to see how this new group does if a similar situation arises.
No, it wasn't very cold at that game. It was above freezing in late Jan fer cripes sake. I was at that game with I think less than 10,000 fans.
I would say the Seattle game in 2019 would be the last one. Low 20's and wind chill in the teens.
@PackerHawk posted:Hopefully far enough in the future that it will be The Love Dome at Lambeau Field.
Wasn't there a couple who got busted for that a few years back?
@YooperPackfan posted:It’s coming, like it or not. Look forward to “The Vincent T. Lombardi Dome”
I don't think so. It won't be by NFL mandate, as there would be insurmountable pushback from the NYs, NE, Philly, Wash, etc.
Putting a roof over the existing stadium would be a big, expensive challenge. I'm not an ME (EE) but the1 tier, broad, shallow seating bowl would require a huge span and new supporting structure; essentially a building enclosing the stadium. Brown County barely passed the $160Million bond referendum to renovate Lambeau in 2000. What will happen when the price tag is 5 or 6 times that?
Multi use is the goal for recent indoor stadiums- The avicidal Tool Shed can host Taylor Swift in February (or even early January 
. Large events like this are non-starters for Green Bay because of its size. Together Green Bay and the Fox cities are only 60% of Buffalo's metro population.
Finally, Packers fans are pretty sanguine about a real nasty Sunday coming along every few years. It's just another cold day in the deer stand.
Putting a roof over the existing stadium would be a big, expensive challenge. I'm not an ME (EE) but the1 tier, broad, shallow seating bowl would require a huge span and new supporting structure; essentially a building enclosing the stadium. Brown County barely passed the $160Million bond referendum to renovate Lambeau in 2000. What will happen when the price tag is 5 or 6 times that?
Need a good architect ? Two words, Art Vandelay
Just build a giant retractable geodesic dome covering the whole Titletown district.
@ammo posted:They better make it retractable. We don't want no stinkin dome when the Suckqueens and Lidowns come to Green Bay in December!!!!
I agree. All I know is that the NFL eventually wants all domed stadiums. Thus, my remark about the league, seeing the bundle of cash on hand for the Packers, pressuring them into building a dome over Lambeau. Not what I want to see.
@Timmy! posted:I look for Lambeau to be replaced in the next 10-20 year period.
I don't know what the life expectancy is for an outdoor stadium exposed to extreme weather, but the core of the stadium is roughly 67 years old, and that seems very old.
I assume when renovations are made, there may be some engineering changes, so the entire stadium isn't exactly that old. Since the last renovation was just last year, I'm guessing they want to get another 10-15-20 years of service before replacement may be considered. By then, it will be over 75 years old.
Whether it's a domed facility will largely depend on the development of Titletown, IMO. If there is a need for year-round use, it can't be ruled out.I'm sure Brown County would prefer that if they fund a new stadium with some taxpayer dollars.
Notre Dame Stadium is older (opened in 1930), and they keep it in fine condition.
@Gsands posted:Putting a roof over the existing stadium would be a big, expensive challenge. I'm not an ME (EE) but the1 tier, broad, shallow seating bowl would require a huge span and new supporting structure; essentially a building enclosing the stadium. Brown County barely passed the $160Million bond referendum to renovate Lambeau in 2000. What will happen when the price tag is 5 or 6 times that?
Need a good architect ? Two words, Art Vandelay
I thought he was an importer? Or was that an exporter?
@grignon posted:Putting a roof over the existing stadium would be a big, expensive challenge. I'm not an ME (EE) but the1 tier, broad, shallow seating bowl would require a huge span and new supporting structure; essentially a building enclosing the stadium. Brown County barely passed the $160Million bond referendum to renovate Lambeau in 2000. What will happen when the price tag is 5 or 6 times that?
Multi use is the goal for recent indoor stadiums- The avicidal Tool Shed can host Taylor Swift in February (or even early January
Finally, Packers fans are pretty sanguine about a real nasty Sunday coming along every few years. It's just another cold day in the deer stand.
The multi-use issue I think is spot on. Makes more financial sense to sink $1B+ into a facility that can be used much more than 8-10 times a year. GB just can't draw those kinds of crowds to non-Packer events on a regular basis.
Lambeau's biggest physical asset is the historic seating bowl. Many still today call it the best in the league. Can't alter it.
I don't think today's fans are as robust weather-wise as they used to be but I also don't think that really matters to attendance. It's not like the waiting list will get shorter or longer based on whether the stadium is a dome or not. The only advantage to the open air is it might still scare opposing teams fans away for late season or playoff games in frigid temps.
Not sure if this has been posted, but I enjoyed this.
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Here's an in depth fantasy football write up from Warren Sharp
https://www.sharpfootballanaly...tiers-rankings-2024/
Jordan Love
The Packers surged over the back half of 2023 on the strength of major growth from Jordan Love.
Love ended the regular season with 32 touchdown passes, which was second in the league.
Green Bay was able to calibrate their offense with a quicker passing game to facilitate Love’s growth.
Through Week 10, the Packers carried a 3-6 record while Love lived as a long-range gunslinger.
Over that span, Love averaged 9.2 air yards per pass attempt, which was third in the NFL.
During that period, 15.7% of his passes were on throws 20 or more yards downfield (2nd in the NFL) while he ranked 29th in the NFL in throws past the line of scrimmage but fewer than 10 yards downfield.
Living on a diet of downfield throws, Love also struggled on those targets.
On throws 10 or more yards downfield during that span, he was 28th in completion rate (41.7%) with 3 touchdowns and 8 interceptions.
The Packers then went 7-3 over their final 10 games, with Love throwing multiple touchdown passes in nine of those 10 games.
Love, Matt LaFleur, and offensive coordinator Adam Stenavich all got on the same page as the offensive focused on a quicker passing attack.
Over the final 10 games of the season, Love averaged 7.7 air yards per attempt, which was 15th in the league.
His deep ball rate went to 10.8% of his passes, which was 22nd in the league.
47.6% of his passes were out within 2.5 seconds over that span (11th in the league) after 45.4% prior (18th).
This also aided him in being a better downfield passer when he was not tasked to live on those throws.
On throws 10 or more yards downfield over those games, Love was seventh in the NFL with a 53.5% completion rate, throwing 8 touchdowns and 1 interception on those attempts.
All of that had a major impact on his fantasy output.
Over those opening 10 games, Love was 18th in fantasy points per game (17.5) with just two games as a QB1 scorer.
Over the final 10 games, Love averaged 21.2 points per game (fifth) and was a QB1 scorer in seven of his final eight regular-season games.
I would expect to see some marriage from the front half of Love’s 2023 and the closing numbers.
Love threw 7.8 touchdowns over expectations, which elevated a 5.5% touchdown rate. Only Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson threw more touchdowns than expected last season.
The Packers scored a touchdown on 95% of their goal-to-go possessions, the highest rate for any team in the 2000s.
All 11 of Love’s completions in goal-to-go situations went for touchdowns.
76.2% of the Green Bay offensive touchdowns last season came through the air, which was fourth in the NFL.
It was the highest rate of passing touchdowns that Green Bay has had in a season since 2016.
That has historically been a rate that regressed the following season for teams, which ties naturally in a potential touchdown dip for Love in 2024 paired with the addition of Josh Jacobs.
Even with Aaron Rodgers, the four times that Green Bay scored 75% or more of their touchdowns through the air, they averaged a loss of -8.0 passing touchdowns the following seasons.
That said, Love is not someone we should anticipate bottoming out.
Even over that front half of 2023, he was in the top half of weekly scoring 7-of-9 games.
Putting together his floor with the usage changes the team had over the season, Love should be at worst a high-end QB2 with plenty of QB1 appeal.
Love does not run as much as the earlier quarterbacks, but he still managed to post 2.9 rushing points per game.
Go Packers
@DH13 posted:The multi-use issue I think is spot on. Makes more financial sense to sink $1B+ into a facility that can be used much more than 8-10 times a year. GB just can't draw those kinds of crowds to non-Packer events on a regular basis.
Lambeau's biggest physical asset is the historic seating bowl. Many still today call it the best in the league. Can't alter it.
I don't think today's fans are as robust weather-wise as they used to be but I also don't think that really matters to attendance. It's not like the waiting list will get shorter or longer based on whether the stadium is a dome or not. The only advantage to the open air is it might still scare opposing teams fans away for late season or playoff games in frigid temps.
But it already is used much more than 8 - 10 times a year if you factor in all the use The Atrium gets which is really part of Lambeau Field. Pro Shop, Hall of Fame, 1919 Tap, etc. They even hold the U S Cheese Championship in The Atrium every other year. Weddings, meetings and many other events are held there also.
Then I'd definitely recommend a roof over the Atrium and HoF.
Contract extension to be announced tomorrow at Shareholders meeting?
5 years $280 Million
Mark it down!!
Jordan Love on IG tomorrow night pic.twitter.com/w9VIBYPvrq
— E 𝕏TEND Jordan Love (@JustusMcKing) July 22, 2024
He must be going to a poker game or just coming back from a poker game.
@ammo posted:But it already is used much more than 8 - 10 times a year if you factor in all the use The Atrium gets which is really part of Lambeau Field. Pro Shop, Hall of Fame, 1919 Tap, etc. They even hold the U S Cheese Championship in The Atrium every other year. Weddings, meetings and many other events are held there also.
Not sure if this was tongue in cheek but to pay for a $B dome, you need to fill IT many more times than 8-10/yr. This is typically means national headliner type events.
Apparently, Love not practicing until a deal is done. Bring Aaron back.😅
Damn...those missed reps of throwing deep balls into garbage cans are going to hurt...
@Goalline posted:Apparently, Love not practicing until a deal is done. Bring Aaron back.😅
Good timing by the Love camp making this happen the same day as the shareholder meeting. Pays to have an agent that knows the organization like Loves does.
I got zero issues with a holdout...NFL is a business. 10 deserves to get paid commensurate with his abilities. IF this is even a holdout...
For now it's a hold in. To really hold out you need to be somewhere else.
The fact that he is at camp, just not practicing, makes it obvious the deal is all but done. If he isn't signed tomorrow, then I worry because it appears both sides are expecting it to be. So something went wrong.
@Boris posted:5 years $280 Million
Mark it down!!
Jordan Love on IG tomorrow night pic.twitter.com/w9VIBYPvrq
— E 𝕏TEND Jordan Love (@JustusMcKing) July 22, 2024
Looks like he's just making sure he can afford eggs this week.
Sources tell me the contract is for 100 years and 3.7 bazillion dollars.
But how many bazillion up front? That's the key.
I’m hearing the only bonus was 3 magic beans and an 8 track player from a 1977 Pontiac Trans Am.
He was negotiating for a cow but didn’t get it. Word is that his family is pissed about the beans because they already made plans for the cow.