Hmmmm, more about preparation. In week 13.
He needs to build off his preparation, but he could be better. We could be better as a team.
Was it disciplinary?
Could be, but we won’t discuss it in here.
On John Crockett:
Crockett has unbelievable energy. Has his nose in the playbook. It was time to give the young man an opportunity.
4 games in 18/19 days may have been a factor in preparation as the schedule moved/was different basically each week.
Got this off a Viking forum - they fail to see why a face-mask penalty was called 
Of course they do.
Let's show them the Jan 2010 OT game vs. AZ just so they can see what a "non-facemask" is.
NFL rules also states you cannot go to the QB's head. If that GIF plays further you also see the defender go inside the collar which could be a horsecollar. So if you don't choose facemask, then you have roughing the QB and/or Horsecollar. They are all personal fouls. Any one of them could be called.
I would hope AR isn't considered a QB anymore in that instance so I don't see the "can't go to his head". but this is NFL rules so who knows.
Thanks Free Safety....
I see Florio had been reading x4 again
Little longer loop - thumb causes the facemask penalty, but doesn't appear to get "inside the collar". Amazing how tacky todays gloves are.
For all the bitching that is going on concerning the facemask call, I'd say look at about 3 plays previous. Our receiver (RR?) was absolutely trucked by the Loins DB, but no PI call. And just like the facemask call, it could have gone either way.
Another thought I had was the refs interjected themselves into this game, and affected the outcome. Whether it was intentional or not. And that needs to stop.
Another cool pic from last night - A little height on that throw !!
I feel like with the mini bye, we should all just bask in the warmth of a historic play we'll never forget, regardless of how the season ends.
But even before that, there were some definite encouraging signs:
- More varied personnel. I feel like they went back to the core 3 for long stretches near the end, but they at least got guys some reps. (Saw that Janis was on the field for a 3rd down when he was supposed to come off, and don't know that we saw him after that.)
- Crockett. New blood, nice addition. Hope to see him more involved.
- Rich Rod with the game of his life even before the HM. Hope it wasn't just the fast track giving him an extra step. If he could offer a little more production in addition to Q coming back, TE contributions could be huge.
- Dare I say we saw guys....schemed...open?? Adams was moved into position on the TD. Cobb was bouncing all over the place. The 4th down conversion was such a simple play, but one that could be run once per drive. This is what we've all been clamoring for since September, so let's at least acknowledge that they flirted with some new wrinkles.
- OL emptying the bench and still performing admirably. Hope to not see another snap without the full five, but each of those reserves should have some confidence if called upon.
Roll the Cowboys, continue to pick up steam and see what happens in January.
JSO summary of McCarthy press conference from Friday afternoon -- posting this as it contains more info than the GBPG summary posted above.
Green Bay - The following is a summary of Packers coach Mike McCarthy's Friday press conference:
(On the day after) Yeah, I think we all slept a little bit. Just had the players in today. We had an NFLPA meeting at 11. We had a team meeting at noon. Then, they had their workout. After the conclusion of team meeting, training room’s full. Most guys are in there getting treatment.
(On team schedule) We’ll be off for the weekend. We’ll have some things to get done Monday and then we’ll crank it up full speed Tuesday.
(On Rodgers' Hail Mary throw) The way he threw it last night, he probably had a few more yards left in him. Just mechanically and just being in tune with his technique and the why he processes information. The ability to get up a close as he could to the 40-yard line and to launch the ball. I think a lot of guys may go with a flatter throw because they’re thinking they have to get it there, but the confidence he has in his arm and his ability to throw with that arc. The arc of the ball is critical to the success of the play. That’s the why it’s coached. The angle you want the ball to come
(On watching the play again) Saw it on TV last night or this morning I guess you would say. I couldn’t sleep so I sat up and watched it a few times on TV. It was a phenomenal play. I was just speaking with Aaron in the training room before I came in here. Outside of the Super Bowl, to me, that’s our greatest regular-season win. It’s more about – obviously the play – but the reaction on the sideline. That’s the stuff you remember. I get the biggest kick just seeing our guys, the joy that they had and the excitement and the locker room. It was phenomenal. I’m looking for flags like I always do when we have big plays to make sure it’s going to – I think that’s just your process as a head coach. Just what a great win. It’s one win. It’s a division win, but I think this stretch that we wanted about. The second stage of our season. We know this was going to be the trials of our schedule and it’s definitely been that. There’s a lot to learn from what we’ve been through and we need to carry it forward.
(On the extra point needing to be run) I’ll be honest with you, I thought the referees handled it great. I mean Carl (Cheffers) – you’re running down to the end zone and he’s running over to me telling me we need to kick the extra point. I kind of laughed and said it’s going to be a couple minutes. I’m not stopping this. You have to be kidding me. We laughed about it. He said, ‘You’re really going to kick it?’ I said, ‘I’ve never really been in this spot before, Carl.’ Then, I said, ‘Well, I should just kneel on it.’ He says, ‘Oh yeah, that’s what he would do.’ I said, ‘OK, let’s kneel on it.’ It was good to have great help from the officiating.
(On feelings at halftime) Well, I don’t think the thought process is a lot different. You’re in a football game. You have zero points on the board and they have 17. Perception and reality. That’s the factors. We’re down 17 points, but just the reality from the way we were playing and the things were happening to us. Offensively, the penalties and the long down-and-distances. We could not overcome that. It really was a pretty big factor in our offensive production. You can take the facemask on Josh, I think on the second series we start with the screen. We had a couple first-and-20s and things like that. Defensively, we had the bad punt. Gave them field position and they got the first three points and then they got seven off the turnover and we didn’t get the check versus their empty line. So we really were three, four plays – I hate when we do analysis like that where we say, ‘Hey, they rushed for 160 yards, but they got 75 or 80 on two runs.’ Well, they all count. Just like Detroit. Those plays count against us; it’s why we’re down 17 points. I just felt that we were a lot closer than the scoreboard indicated.
(On why Eddie Lacy didn't play more) Nothing happened last week with Eddie. Leading up the game, frankly, there’s an internal football decision that was made. That’s what resulted in Eddie’s reps.
(So it wasn’t disciplinary?): Could be. But those things we don’t discuss in here anyway. It’s something that we handled internally, and that was the outcome.
(What can he do to improve) He needs to build off his preparation. He’s put up some yards in the prior games, but he can be better. We need to be better as a team, frankly. I discussed this in our team meeting. There’s a lot more to give. The fine details are not where we want them to be. There’s a formula for us to get it there. That was made clear to our players and with the expectations and the commitment that we’ve made to each other, and we’ve got to do a better job. We’re not clicking for four quarters in all three areas, and that’s what we’re working for.
(On the Hail Mary play) That whole segment of when you’re calling plays, we were at the final play beforehand because that technically was the final play and where Richard threw it back to Aaron and then we got the penalty. So you’re trusting your preparation, and then you get the rebound pass. We actually call it rebound pass. We don’t call it Hail Mary because we think we’re going to go catch it like a rebound. So it’s called a rebound pass. And it’s just really watching the mechanics, the play entry, and I saw the three-man rush.
(On David Bakhtiari) He’s beat up. They’re all beat up. I just visited with David earlier, and his words to me was he plans on practicing every day next week and just looking forward to this time off. Your big guys, obviously playing the four games, the four division games, the 11-day period, I think the fact, what you hear a lot of is the two turf games, the two turf games in the last three-play segment, that’s something that’s been really hard, particularly on the big guys with their joints.
(On why John Crockett was signed) I’ll just say, it just puts a smile on my face when I think of Crockett. You come off the field here at Lambeau, he’s the first guy in the tunnel, greets the team. He’s got unbelievable energy. He puts a lot of time in. He’s got his nose in his playbook, the way it should be. So there’s just a lot there that’s been going on for really since training camp.
(On TE Richard Rodgers) Yeah, I think you look, before the Hail Mary, Richard had a heck of a football game. I think he caught every ball that was thrown to him if my memory is right, so he needed that and we needed that. So we need more production in the passing game. And that was a big night for Richard.
Props to the guys @barstoolsports for their awesome "Lions fan" reaction to the Rodgers "Hail Mary" pic.twitter.com/wQ5lQrE6lG
— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) December 4, 2015
My prediction in the last call thread has worked twice in the past Month: Vikes game and Lions game. I shall continue exaggerated negative predictions till we win the Super Bowl.
Technically they only lead for 53m 48 seconds...the game was tied for the first 6 minutes and 12 seconds.
Regarding the facemask…..I think it’s en vogue to criticize officiating now. The media loves controversy and officiating is as easy as it comes. One of the Dannettes on the Dan Patrick show made a great point, that in real time it was a good call. Hand to the facemask, helmet pulled backwards. Even on instant replay when you slow it down, you still can’t say it’s a bad call, even if your interpretation of the rulebook says he let go and thus not a facemask. Disagree? Yes. Egregious? No. Replay is meant to correct egregious calls, not overanalyze borderline calls.
packerboi posted:NFL rules also states you cannot go to the QB's head. If that GIF plays further you also see the defender go inside the collar which could be a horsecollar. So if you don't choose facemask, then you have roughing the QB and/or Horsecollar. They are all personal fouls. Any one of them could be called.
Aaron was a runner at this time, so QB rules don't apply.
Two flags on the ground, two pairs of zebra eyes saw a facemask infraction.
Horsecollar only applies if it's from behind, no?
Hail Rodgers-to-Rodgers.
The Motor City Miracle.
Whatever it’s nicknamed, it was an instant classic provided by Aaron Rodgers on Thursday night at Ford Field.
Rodgers unleashed one of the greatest throws in NFL history, a 61-yard Hail Mary moonshot to tight end Richard Rodgers on the final untimed play of the game as the Packers beat the Lions, 27-23, wiping out a 20-0 third-quarter deficit. He threw the ball from his own 36 and a leaping Richard Rodgers caught it 4 yards deep into the end zone, making it a 68-yard thriller. And that’s not taking account the very high trajectory Rodgers put on the throw.
More at link-
Aaron Rodgers delivers instant classic with Hail Mary finish in Packers’ 27-23 win over Lions
Aaron picks an odd time to sing opera.
Anyone get the hang time on that pass? Better than a ginger punt?
Good thing they weren't in Dallas. It would have bounced off the scoreboard.
Hungry5 posted:
Clearly this picture shows that MM has lost the locker room and ARodge has tuned him out. Those player-only meetings are probably going to bounce up to twice a week.
I don't know where to post anything......Lacy and Harris missed curfew that's why Lacy was demoted and Harris was cut and I'm sure everyone know's this right??
This post was forked into a new topic here: Lacy & Alonzo miss curfew
Herschel posted:Packers Fans: "WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!! WE WON!!!!!!"
Lions fans: "Typical Lions ending."
Bears fans: zzzzzzzzzz *snort*snorkle*zzzzzzzzzzz
Vikings Fans: "Why do the refs hate us?!?!? This is a conspiracy against the Vikings!!!!!!"
LOL, post of the year, Herschel. I'm stealing it.
Rusty posted:
Clearly this picture shows that MM has lost the locker room and ARodge has tuned him out. Those player-only meetings are probably going to bounce up to twice a week.
Cause he's hugging Trgovac ?
DH13 posted:Horsecollar only applies if it's from behind, no?
NFL definition:
What is Horse Collar Tackle?
A type of football tackle where the tackling player grabs the opening of the jersey and/or shoulder pads on a player's back and pulls them to the ground. As a result of several high profile injuries from this maneuver, in 2005 the NFL started penalizing this type of tackle with a 15 yard personal foul penalty.
Rusty posted:Hungry5 posted:
Clearly this picture shows that MM has lost the locker room and ARodge has tuned him out. Those player-only meetings are probably going to bounce up to twice a week.
I think the picture depicts his teammates trying to hold Rodgers from leaving after he asked for a trade.
El-Ka-Penisbreath posted:Anyone get the hang time on that pass? Better than a ginger punt?
Hang time on Aaron Rodgers' game-winning TD pass. Like a good @TimMasthay punt. pic.twitter.com/AyrMcvD81r
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) December 4, 2015
Goldie posted:I don't know where to post anything......
Don't ever change, Goldie. 
Goldie posted:I don't know where to post anything......Lacy and Harris missed curfew that's why Lacy was demoted and Harris was cut and I'm sure everyone know's this right??
All night buffet? Trip to Windsor?
Goldie posted:I don't know where to post anything......Lacy and Harris missed curfew that's why Lacy was demoted and Harris was cut and I'm sure everyone know's this right??
Goldie....hadn't heard the whole story but, if true, that deserves it's own thread. Please post it. Thank you
Boris posted:Goldie posted:I don't know where to post anything......Lacy and Harris missed curfew that's why Lacy was demoted and Harris was cut and I'm sure everyone know's this right??
Goldie....hadn't heard the whole story but, if true, that deserves it's own thread. Please post it. Thank you
I'm not Goldie, but here's a link:
Reading between the lines, MM was not happy with Harris at all and you wonder if Harris had some influence on Lacy to not be all about football. It's also been going on since TC. Also gotta wonder if AR's comments were alluding to some of this. Here's what MM said:
"It just puts a smile on my face when I think of Crockett," McCarthy said. "You come off the field here at Lambeau, he’s the first guy in the tunnel, greets the team. He’s got unbelievable energy. He puts a lot of time in. He’s got his nose in his playbook, the way it should be.
"So there’s just a lot there that’s been going on for really since training camp. That decision could’ve went either way, in my opinion, between Alonzo and Crockett. It was time to give the young man an opportunity."
The energy in that locker room today was amazing best it's been all year praying my return can help add to it! It's time to #Believe
— Drew Quarless (@DrewQuarless) December 4, 2015