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Throughout LaFleur’s career, as offensive assistant with the Houston Texans; quarterbacks coach with the Washington Redskins, then the Atlanta Falcons; offensive coordinator with the Rams and, now, with the Titans, there has been one consistency: working closely with quarterbacks. Whether with then-green signal-callers like Kirk Cousins and Jared Goff or veterans in Matt Ryan and Marcus Mariota, LaFleur has continually been charged with overseeing player development at this position. This is, of course, crucial background for a job such as head coach of the Packers, where Mike McCarthy’s successor will be tasked with earning the respect of Aaron Rodgers, who had more than a few clashes with his former coach.

LaFleur can offer more than pedigree to Packers

Good read.

packerboi posted:

........This is, of course, crucial background for a job such as head coach of the Packers, where Mike McCarthy’s successor will be tasked with earning the respect of Aaron Rodgers, who had more than a few clashes with his former coach.

LaFleur can offer more than pedigree to Packers

Good read.

Good article, but I disagree that LaFleur will be tasked with earning AR’s respect. More like AR will be tasked with getting on board with his new coach. 

FYI, Aaron has openly said he has no issues having a 30 something HC. I think that LaFleur knows how to run a modern day offense pretty much seals the deal in being excited to work with a new HC. 

Now the question did they let AR know before the news was leaked from Schefter or did AR find out like everyone else did?

Packdog posted:

Well that’s the nail in the Packers coffin....if Dilfer says it’s so, then it must be the complete opposite.  

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Henry posted:

Load up.  Better be a busy offseason.  Really hope he can bring in solid assistants.  

Obviously the Gase and McDaniels personalities weren't going to fly.  Not surprised when you have a highly intelligent QB running the offense.

AR is as intelligent as Matt Leinart, Christian Ponder and Kellen Clemons, but not as intelligent as Anthony Dilweg, Akili Smith, Scott Tolzien, Matt Stafford, Alex Smith and especially Ryan Fitzpatrick.  

He IS barely smarter than Tom Brady though so there's a chance the problem isn't simply that AR is a pompous prick that thinks he's smarter than everybody in the room, including the coach.  

If he can do for Rodgers what he did for Ryan, it’s a great move. If he’s keeping Pettine, hopefully Pettine will continue what he started. 

It would be nice to see some “up and coming” talent in the assistant ranks. It seems like it’s been a long time since the guys in GB have been a pipeline of young up and coming coaches. They need some of those on both sides of the call...

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Happy to see Murphy decided to stay in the present with this pick (Gutie's influence) and not go with one of old recycles. And I just couldn't see him looking past the question marks that came with McDaniels.  Just guessing but I would think ML will want to install his offense and will do it with someone besides Philbin. I could however see Philbin staying on in some capacity, if he's willing. He could be a constant that might help the transition. Looking forward to seeing him get AR back in the groove.

I’d like to see him hire an outside-the-box OC. Matt Nagy doesn’t get enough credit for hiring Mark Helfrich as his OC, I think he was the key to translating an Nagy’s NFL system with a RO QB in Trubisky. That’s a tricky line and I’m not saying Trubisky is great, but I doubt it was easy breaking down what he knows as a QB and building the system around him. I think Helfrich was key to that. If Kingsbury doesn’t land a HC job, I’d give him a loooong look at OC now that he’s gone from USC. 

The more I read about LaFleur the more I like.  Young and less experienced than others which will lead to some mistakes but this team and organization needs a rebirth of sorts with an energized innovative coach who isn’t an older recycled one.  I’m excited to see what the change brings.   

Saw on Twitter that apparently keeping Pettine was high on the Packers list of priorities and wanted a coach that was willing to keep him. LaFleur talked about wanting to keep Pettine in his interview apparently. I would embed the tweets, but I’m too lazy.

Grave Digger posted:

Saw on Twitter that apparently keeping Pettine was high on the Packers list of priorities and wanted a coach that was willing to keep him. LaFleur talked about wanting to keep Pettine in his interview apparently. I would embed the tweets, but I’m too lazy.

Not sure about using that criteria to chose a HC. 

McDaniels not willing to keep Pettine ? (Don't get me wrong, not a McDaniels fan). 

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Pakrz posted:
Brainwashed Boris posted:
Pakrz posted:

So this guy has two years of experience as an OC in the NFL. Am I reading that right?

Yes - was OC with the Rams in 2017 - RTFB!!

I wanted McD too, but this hire may work out better in the long run

Right, right... I'm definitely willing to keep an open mind, but I'm having a hard time connecting the dots with why so many people are excited about this hire.  He hasn't really done a thing in the NFL and has very little experience to boot.  He must have given a great interview.  

Onward.  

I’m just glad he’s not McDaniels. The rest, we shall see.

RochNyFan posted:
packerboi posted:
bigdoggyjude posted

Does Philbin do ST

Well, we know this, he can't do ST's any worse then Zook.

What's the over/under on the number of heads that will implode if he retains Zook?

Given how quickly they moved he must have absolutely crushed the interview. Wouldn't read too much into the Pettine angle and fixing AR was likely the top priority with the pick. Really like what I've read so far but like the draft it's a roll of the dice and time will tell.

Pakrz posted:
Henry posted:

Load up.  Better be a busy offseason.  Really hope he can bring in solid assistants.  

Obviously the Gase and McDaniels personalities weren't going to fly.  Not surprised when you have a highly intelligent QB running the offense.

AR is as intelligent as Matt Leinart, Christian Ponder and Kellen Clemons, but not as intelligent as Anthony Dilweg, Akili Smith, Scott Tolzien, Matt Stafford, Alex Smith and especially Ryan Fitzpatrick.  

He IS barely smarter than Tom Brady though so there's a chance the problem isn't simply that AR is a pompous prick that thinks he's smarter than everybody in the room, including the coach.  

Are you going on Wonderlic?  The simple fact is there have been two QBs with the innate intelligence on the field to comprehensively run the offense from the line over the past couple decades and that's Rodgers and Manning. 

Trust me, going to Harvard or Yale doesn't make you a genius.  Just ask Dubya.  You know what the most common degree is at Harvard now?  Computer science.  Systems managers.  

I'm saying this to all the "ol' time ball coach" fans in here, the fact is Rodgers will be working with LaFluer as much as LaFluer is working with Rodgers.  Considering the info good Doc Benni provided about McVince going into a shell after the Seattle game is it really that much of a stretch to see why Rodgers and McVince would have issues?  A formally very successful coach/QB collaboration and McVince shut it down out of fear surrounding himself with a bunch of stooge (Raih) yes men.  I'd be way more concerned if Rodgers bought into it.  Wouldn't all you lunchpailers be disappointed if your partner in a highly successful endeavor decided to check out?  So let's leave the horseshit "Rodgers is a cancer" crap and instead be excited that Rodgers and LaFluer will gladly work together to create something exciting again.  Rodgers has made clear he welcomes coaching.  (Bedard is a ****weasel)  We can also be happy for McVince and hope a new start gets the monkey off his back.

This is the NFL, professionals.  To think it's some campy "put me in coach!" setup is stupid.  If you want that kind of crap go root for a team with a moron QB.  Plenty of those out there. 

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michiganjoe posted:

Given how quickly they moved he must have absolutely crushed the interview. Wouldn't read too much into the Pettine angle and fixing AR was likely the top priority with the pick. Really like what I've read so far but like the draft it's a roll of the dice and time will tell.

Exactly.  Proof is in the puddin'.  I like the potential of this hire but let's see the results first.

slowmo posted:
Henry posted:

Load up.  Better be a busy offseason.  Really hope he can bring in solid assistants.  

Obviously the Gase and McDaniels personalities weren't going to fly.  Not surprised when you have a highly intelligent QB running the offense.

Yep, the constant negative on both Gase and McDaniels was their  "my way or the highway" approach.  Given the muddled Packer chain of command, that would be a formula for backstabbing in an attempt for power over personnel decisions, etc.

That was my biggest concern.  I hope H5 is right and Murphy ends up turning over most of the power to GirlyShorts but I doubt it.  I think he's stuck on the idea of emulating the Rooneys.  Difference is he's not a Rooney.  

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