NumberThree posted:I'm guessing McDaniels is bad at interviewing?
Anyway, here's the 2018 stats for Mark Murphy's guy to coach out almost the entirety of Rodgers's contract:
29th in passing
25th in total yards
27th in points per game
27th in passing first downs
25th Yard per game
27th in touchdowns
23rd Yards per play
26th in total first downs
He also had a boner for Kirk Cousins.
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packerboi posted:Also worth noting that outside of the Jets, I don't see MM being the hot commodity with 7 NFL openings that some thought he'd be.
Some indications the Jets are leaning toward Kingsbury. Expected a bit more interest in MM but perhaps his (stale) offense is limiting the opportunities.
People are going to freak out, when he benches AR for DK. I read that Pepe was the QB coach at ND when DK was there. 
Or perhaps McCarthy decided to take an 8 million dollar year off
I think MM, will still have a shot at CLE.
Word out of Cleveland is it's likely to be Freddie Kitchens.
Glad to hear Jerry Montgomery will probably stay. Was excited when we initially hired him, and his work to date with Daniels, Clark, Lowry, MoWilk, etc....has been impressive.
GBFanForLife posted:Or perhaps McCarthy decided to take an 8 million dollar year off
That would probably be the healthiest thing for him to do.
DH13 posted:That would probably be the healthiest thing for him to do.
Agreed. Or do the Pettine thing in 2017 where he was a "consultant" in Seattle and just sat back and learned.
MM would be wise to link onto a team like KC, just observe, and watch how modern NFL offenses operate.
mrtundra posted:Pikes Peak posted:What if he withdraws and goes back to Tennessee?
What if he uses Tennessee's offense here?
There's a slight chance that Aaron Rodgers is a little better than Marcus Mariota and Blaine Gabbert and that the same offense might look better. Not to mention that Davante Adams might be better than Corey Davis.
Offseason roster moves could tell us something about what we can expect out of the new offense.
One thing to begin looking at is who was on the Titans roster this year that is a free agent. LeFleur may look to bring some of those guys in (especially mid-level veteran free agents) that have a year in his system. Here's the Titans free agents.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/fr...ts/tennessee-titans/
He was with the Rams in 2017. They are about to be in cap hell. Maybe they can get some mid-level free agent help from there as well.
ChilliJon posted:The Titans ran the ball a lot last year. Which is a little surprising in that LeFleur was an upcoming commodity coming out of last years coaching searches. You'd think he'd go all 5 wide and motion and innovation to try and build up his resume. But he really didn't. He pretty much stuck with what the Titans did best.
I don't want this to become LeFleur has to fix Rodgers. LeFleur has to fix this offense. "And the culture in GB in general. He's got a big job ahead of him.
"The Titans’ offense is run by first-year coordinator Matt LaFleur, a disciple of both Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan. Their scheme features an outside zone running game that is a foundation in their pass game, as well, with frequent play action that can be coupled with simplistic intermediate and deep concepts. The Titans run play action 27% of the time (ranked 7th, according to Football Outsiders..." https://www.cover1.net/james-b...leur-cover-3-robber/ ( (the link is actually a good explanation, with video, of some of the concepts LaFleur will bring to Green Bay)
One of the things I am looking forward to the Packers changing is running true play action with Rodgers under center. The whole MM offense of virtually always in shotgun, and the especially infuriating emptying the backfield on 3rd and shorts (less than 3 yards) to completely remove the defense having to worry about a run, was a big achilles heel of the Packer offense.
According to this stat in 2018, the Packers were 25th in yards per play running play action, and they ran it 20% of the time vs. Tennessee which ranked 6th in yards per play action and ran it 28%, https://www.footballoutsiders....ion-offense-charting (The percentage includes QB scrambles, so the true number of actual play action called by the Packers is increased because of the number of times a Rodgers pass play turned into a QB scramble)
It's not just scheming WR routes to get guys open that MM didn't do; he also didn't take advantage of having an effective run game to assist in opening up the offense. Other than the occasional run fake and deep throw to Nelson over the years, I'm hard pressed to remember any consistently effective play action from the Packers.
Anybody know the background as to why LaFluffer left the OC gig with the Rams to take the same job with the Titans? He seems to have bounced around a bit. Just curious what the background was.
Pakrz posted:Anybody know the background as to why LaFluffer left the OC gig with the Rams to take the same job with the Titans? He seems to have bounced around a bit. Just curious what the background was.
Media reports are that McVay was the actual play caller in LA and LaFleur wanted to have the experience of calling plays. McVay agreed to let him leave to do that in Tennessee. https://theramswire.usatoday.c...fleur-titans-regret/ (As opposed to MM, who was notorious for not letting his coaches leave for other jobs)
Pakrz posted:Anybody know the background as to why LaFluffer left the OC gig with the Rams to take the same job with the Titans?
Wanted to call plays.
LaFluffer -
I'm guessing on the Rams he was OC in title only & McVay was doing most of the "OC'ing" (play calling) - No question who was the OC in Tennessee. LaFleur had the opportunity of calling the plays for the Titans, essentially being a promotion from his former position as offensive coordinator with the Rams, hence the reason for the change/promotion in Tennessee.
Peter LaFleur.
Duffle bag full of wrenches for rookie camp.
This is why they cut MM loose early. If they had waited until after the season was over, they'd still be scheduling interviews. Having the extra time meant getting the guy they wanted before anyone else could grab him.
From Gil Brandt.
Kliff Kingsbury was born 86 days before Matt LaFleur. Both are 39. We hired Tom Landry when he was 36.
LaFleur appears to favor shorter drops in the passing game, calling 1- or 3-step drops on 68.5 percent of passing plays, compared to 53.3 percent for the Packers under McCarthy.
Cant wait. Throw on time.
Hungry5 posted:From Gil Brandt.
Kliff Kingsbury was born 86 days before Matt LaFleur. Both are 39. We hired Tom Landry when he was 36.
Landry was essentially a player/ defensive coordinator with the Giants in the late 1950s, much younger than 36. Lombardi was the OC and Jim Lee Howell just sat back and let his assistants run the show.
Pakrz posted:Anybody know the background as to why LaFluffer left the OC gig with the Rams to take the same job with the Titans? He seems to have bounced around a bit. Just curious what the background was.
McVay did NOT want MLF to leave LA - but understood he got where his shot because others gave him opportunities and MLF needed the same opportunity.
No one knows yet but supposedly floating the idea of keeping Philbert "Philbardi" McFishsticks, which melts my brain.
He's keeping the TE coach, I'd be more than fine if he flushed the rest of the offensive staff.
Not MLF's Bro Mike
Maybe Zac Taylor, Rams QB coach (aka Mike Sherman's son-in-law lol) who interviewed for AZ HC job.
Good to have experienced OC but may be tough sell for rookie coach who is cslling plays. But it's AR....
MichiganPacker2 posted:There's a slight chance that Aaron Rodgers is a little better than Marcus Mariota and Blaine Gabbert and that the same offense might look better. Not to mention that Davante Adams might be better than Corey Davis.
Build the sound structure around your marquee players? Then your marquee players do what you paid them to do? Too Ron Wolfish, fart in the wind.
After watching BB continue stocking his roster with role players for a good decade or so, it occurs to me that championship teams are best at making things easier during a game or season for their stars, and look to their stars to get them over the hump. It's worked in NE, it worked in GB in 2010. Starks, B. Jackson, Peprah, H. Green, dare I say 24 Bush. Role players making plays to lighten the load of the players who relish being called upon in the biggest moments. I wasn't happy with AR's performance this year, but he played hurt the entire season, he had to lead an offense that we as fans only had to watch and managed to pull our hair out over, and by all objective pov was stale 3-4 years running. Challenge AR, give him confidence behind a stout line and a bit more diverse offense, and this ego/attitude of his will diminish. ML had Mariota, Goff, Ryan, Cousins/RG3. Ryan is the closest thing he's coached to Rodgers, the jury's still out on Goff in terms of playoff games, and Cousins is what he is. Rodgers needs very little to succeed, as we've seen for years. But if a moving parts offense takes any pressure off him at all, he is perfectly capable of winning a ton of games. As much as I believe AR needs to re-dedicate, I think it's very possible this match can reach MM/AR heights and beyond that even BB/TB machine-like success.
Some interesting names as asst's under LaFleur. including Brant Boyer for ST's coordinator.
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Stinky comes off the Shanahan tree which is closer to pure WCO. Short passes setting everything else up. AR will have a leg up on getting familiar with the new system.
NumberThree posted:I'm guessing McDaniels is bad at interviewing?
Anyway, here's the 2018 stats for Mark Murphy's guy to coach out almost the entirety of Rodgers's contract:
29th in passing
25th in total yards
27th in points per game
27th in passing first downs
25th Yard per game
27th in touchdowns
23rd Yards per play
26th in total first downs
He also had a boner for Kirk Cousins.
Marcus Mariota is now the head coach of the Packers?
From the link:
SPECIAL TEAMS COORDINATORS
Keith Armstrong: The 55-year-old coached with LaFleur during his tenure with the Falcons, and spent eleven seasons as Atlanta’s special teams coordinator. Armstrong is thought of highly across the league, and has interviewed for head coaching opportunities twice. Atlanta’s special teams ranked ninth this past season and seventh in 2016 when Armstrong and LaFleur last coached together. Armstrong was fired by head coach Dan Quinn after the 2018 season ended.
Joe Marciano: LaFleur coached with Marciano in Houston, where he served as special teams coordinator under head coaches Dom Capers and Gary Kubiak. He has spent each of the last five seasons in the NFC North, coaching the Vikings in 2014 and the Lions from 2015. He was fired midway through the 2018 season by head coach Matt Patricia.
Brant Boyer: The New York Jets had the league’s best special teams in 2018, according to Football Outsiders, and Boyer was the coordinator behind the success. The Jets fired head coach Todd Bowles, and the next head coach may want to bring in their own staff. If he’s available, LaFleur would have a connection to him through Jeremy Bates, who served as the Jets offensive coordinator this season.
Packdog posted:Glad to hear Jerry Montgomery will probably stay. Was excited when we initially hired him, and his work to date with Daniels, Clark, Lowry, MoWilk, etc....has been impressive.
I think Dean Lowry, if he's willing to put in the effort, will make any coach look like a genius. Guy is essentially Lawrence Taylor if he puts his mind to it.
bigdoggyjude posted:McVay did NOT want MLF to leave LA - but understood he got where his shot because others gave him opportunities and MLF needed the same opportunity.
I, as well, am open to giving MILFs opportunities and do NOT want them to leave Portland.
YATittle posted:Any of them better than Zook.
I have no idea the context of this question.
That said, unless the context is barefoot water skiing, everyone is better at everything than Ron Zook.
ammo posted:Hungry5 posted:From Gil Brandt.
Kliff Kingsbury was born 86 days before Matt LaFleur. Both are 39. We hired Tom Landry when he was 36.
Landry was essentially a player/ defensive coordinator with the Giants in the late 1950s, much younger than 36. Lombardi was the OC and Jim Lee Howell just sat back and let his assistants run the show.
Here is some info on Tom Landry. https://www.pro-football-refer...ayers/L/LandTo00.htm
He was born in 1924. In 1960, when the cowboys hired him he was 36. His playing career ended after the 1955 season when he was 31. So under Howell, Lombardi would be what we would call today a OC and Landry a DC.