O$U @ Bucky - in Indy - 7 PM CST on FOX - for the B1G Championship!

antooo posted:

ChilliJon posted:

I sincerely hope someone beats the breaks off Ohio St in the playoffs. I’d enjoy seeing Clemson hang 60 on them. 

I'd like to see them win it all now.  But I don't think they are the best team left.

I'd laugh my ass off if they didn't even make the playoffs.

Horni is 22-3 as a starter. Hard to bench a guy next year with that record, but I think they have to to get better. 

12 and 1 is pretty good...I remember the bad old days.  This is heaven.

THanks Donna, Barry, Paul, Jim and all the players.  It's been a fun 25 years with sunny skies on the horizon.

ChilliJon posted:

I sincerely hope someone beats the breaks off Ohio St in the playoffs. I’d enjoy seeing Clemson hang 60 on them. 

I'd leave their two-loss asses out of it.

ChilliJon posted:

I sincerely hope someone beats the breaks off Ohio St in the playoffs. I’d enjoy seeing Clemson hang 60 on them. 

I don’t think they’ll get in.  Clemson, Oklahoma, and then I can see Alabama and Georgia both getting in.  At least that’s what I hope.  F O$U.

Gonna be tough next year.  They are losing a lot on defense.

Urban is politicking.  Can't blame him

Not a really tough schedule next year either. Just at Penn State

Cheezers posted:

ChilliJon posted:

I sincerely hope someone beats the breaks off Ohio St in the playoffs. I’d enjoy seeing Clemson hang 60 on them. 

I don’t think they’ll get in.  Clemson, Oklahoma, and then I can see Alabama and Georgia both getting in.  At least that’s what I hope.  F O$U.

Iowa blew them off the field. They don't deserve to go. 

Don’t care......UNDEFEATED BABY......since 1912!!!!!!!!  ok, lost the big one with an INT. so what.  GO BADGERS GO.

We need to find another Russell Wilson next year.....or somebody not named Hornibrook.

kcpuck posted:

Gonna be tough next year.  They are losing a lot on defense.

 

Yah, but the basketball team will have another year together.....GO BADGERS GO.  

kcpuck posted:

Gonna be tough next year.  They are losing a lot on defense.

 

Just get Leonard back.

Blair Kiel posted:

We need to find another Russell Wilson next year.....or somebody not named Hornibrook.

Damn right

Goldie posted:

kcpuck posted:

Gonna be tough next year.  They are losing a lot on defense.

 

Yah, but the basketball team will have another year together.....GO BADGERS GO.  

From what I've seen they may need more than a year.

Goldie posted:

Don’t care......UNDEFEATED BABY......since 1912!!!!!!!!  ok, lost the big one with an INT. so what.  GO BADGERS GO.

I'll have what she's drinking.

Blair Kiel posted:

kcpuck posted:

Gonna be tough next year.  They are losing a lot on defense.

 

Just get Leonard back.

YEA

Too bad for the Badgers.
I despise the politics associated with the FBS system, and exhibit A was Auburn ranked #2 with 2 losses. So I was really rooting for Wisconsin to be the proverbial Cinderella and (rightfully) claiming the #1 seed.

Oh well.

LOL...Badgers won"t even be in the conversation. They made the main stream sports media 100 percent correct. Crap bowl game is their destiny.

Another disappointing end. Another disappointment at QB. The defense’s inability to prevent the big play was damning, but Hornibrook’s inability to elevate his level of play forced the defense to be perfect- and they weren’t going to be. But they put 7 up themselves, and forced 2 other turnovers. They played as well as they could- but. Not as dominant as I wished. 

Same as last year. Bride’s maids...

The defense gave up 6 points in the second half.

60 yards rushing.  If this was primarily prioritization with OSU's scheme, well, it's hard not to look at passing effectiveness.

Ah screw the talking heads.......how do ya think UCF feels??  Not even in the conversation....now for them it REALLY stinks.  JMHO.  

Think most teams want to shut down the Badger running game and make Horni beat them but most teams can't do it as effectively as OSU. Needed really a stellar game from Horni and it wasn't there. Can't ask for much more than two possessions at the end of the game only down by six.

It really came down to the QB play.  Hornibrook made the critical mistake early throwing the pick and they gave up points and he never really recovered after that.  He was off on many of his throws including some easy dump offs.  

Credit to Ohio State they came in with a solid game plan to shut down the run and force the QB to beat them and he couldn't answer the bell.   Pretty amazing that UW was even in the game at the end because they made a lot of mistakes and while you can get away with that against a Minnesota or Indiana you won't get away with it against top level competition. 

Now they are left to wonder "what if" and can redeem themselves with a bowl win but yesterday was a letdown and many of the players said as much after the game.  They did not play as well as they could and unfortunately the good version of Ohio State decided to show up. 

Looking ahead they will lose some key guys like Fumagalli and Tindal and some DL but they return most of their offense and several key defensive players.   They could use another good athlete on the back end of the defense and they have to get better play out of the QB position but their schedule isn't that brutal other than a road game at Penn State. 

Not sure they needed a stellar game out of 12.  They just needed to avoid the "bad" Hornibrook and that version decided to show up.   

Not like Barrett was perfect but he made a lot more plays and moved the chains. 

Honestly they need to take a long look at Jack Coan in the offseason.  They need a playmaker at the position; heck I would be fine with a solid game manager.  You cannot have your QB turn the ball over as much as Hornibrook did this year.  The defense bailed him out a lot this season but couldn't do it against Ohio State. 

michiganjoe posted:

Think most teams want to shut down the Badger running game and make Horni beat them but most teams can't do it as effectively as OSU.

I think you're wrong about that. Georgia is excellent & I was looking forward to seeing an old school defensive battle between Georgia & Wisconsin. Oh well.....

I agree on Georgia.  Similar to O$U they have some horses up front on the DL and can wreak a lot of havoc.  

The first interception and the missed tackles on the first were the killers.  The last interception was a desperation toss.  But lets not forget the OSU over throws in the first half...2 or 3 tds were missed.  In actuality it should/could have been over. 

Watching the defense give up nine Dom Capers yards on 3d and 7 from the 7 yard line was familiar.  And then the 84-yard play.

MichiganPacker2 posted:

Horni is 22-3 as a starter. Hard to bench a guy next year with that record, but I think they have to to get better. 

Next year he will be a Junior and he is clearly not absent of skill.  The jump he makes next year will tell you a lot about Chryst

Tschmack posted:

It really came down to the QB play.  

 

I disagree (kinda).  OSU had a much better offensive line than Bucky yesterday, and it played that way all game

SI has the Badgers projected to play USC in the Fiesta Bowl.  ESPN has the same match up. 

LINK

Eat it O$U!! - You lose even though you "won" last night

The committee wants to look smart here. If Bama were to lose a semifinal blowout, that’d be a shocker, and the committee would catch jokes and scorn. If Ohio State were to lose a blowout, it’d be the fourth time in the last 12 months, and the committee would be rrrrrrrrrrroasted. The Buckeyes have proved themselves to be the risky choice.

Miami / Wisc here. A game I think is a much better matchup

that would be a great match up, a match up we won't see in the final 4.

El-Ka-Bong posted:

Tschmack posted:

It really came down to the QB play.  

 

I disagree (kinda).  OSU had a much better offensive line than Bucky yesterday, and it played that way all game

It's comparing apples and oranges. OSU didn't have to respect the deep ball at all and could play 8-9 guys near the LOS. Also, the Badgers defense had to worry about Barnett being a threat to run and may have schemed to have a guy spy him instead of rushing. If the OL has to block 1-2 less guys every play, it makes it a lot easier to look good. Again, it comes down to QB play (or fear of the QB playing well and going deep) and speed in the defensive backfield (mostly at safety for the Badgers). 

OSU is not going to the playoffs. Boris post spot on. Clemson would have taken OSU to the shed. Bama Clemson for 3rd year in a row is too much money to pass up 

The Iowa blowout and not blowing out of Bucky was the difference.

On Wisconsin

Agreed.  I think college football fans in general get tired of seeing Alabama in the playoffs, but you have to put them there if you are truly putting the 4 best teams in.  OSU had more losses, played in a weaker conference and got destroyed at unranked Iowa.  That doesn't scream top 4 team to many people outside of Columbus, Ohio.  

Blair Kiel posted:

We need to find another Russell Wilson next year.....or somebody not named Hornibrook.

This. 1000 times this.

If we have Russell Wilson at QB last night, or a QB remotely close to his skill set, we're playing for the National Championship. The Badgers aren't going three and out on a spin cycle, and the defense isn't gassed. Hornibrook is terrible, I'm sorry. I like the kid, but we were doomed the second he had to throw the ball 40 times. He's a human turnover machine. He has no accuracy. He can, at times, look really good. But, too often, he disappears when we need him the most. That roll out and missed pass to a wide open Troy Fumagalli was killer. The doink screen pass was killer. The seeing a defender coming for him, and taking the sack and huge loss instead of throwing it away was killer. The under-thrown wounded duck in the red zone that was picked was killer. OSU didn't fear him, so they loaded up on the run game, and that was that.  

Lambeau- that's the story for Wisconsin every year except for the Russell Wilson team. If a team can't stop the run by putting 8-9 guys in the box, Wisconsin will beat anyone. If they can stop the run by loading up the box, Wisconsin QBs (who are very Hornibrook-like over the years) are adequate enough to hit guys that are running wide open in the secondary when the opposing DBs are average college level players. When the Badgers can't run into 8-9 men boxes, and the opposing DBs are NFL-level quality, then they are cooked because Hornibrook/Stave/Sorgi/ec. can't make throws unless the guys are wide open.

Chryst was masterful last night calling screens, a RB pass to the QB, unscouted FB sweeps, etc. but Hornibrook probably missed 4-5 20 yard plus plays on screens or passes to Fumagalli when he couldn't execute simple throws under mild pressure.