Official 2015 NFL Draft Thread

30th pick should be around 10:00 PM LFT.

The first round normally takes 3.5 hours

Whoa.

@JayGlazer: Scoopage: Agent for LSU's La'el Collins trying to pull him from this draft allowing him time to clear his name then enter Supplemental Draft.

 

@JayGlazer: Most are asking for a full police report clearing him before they are willing to draft him. Collins is slated to meet w police.

 

@JayGlazer: NFL's call if Collins can get pulled from this draft.

Vikings fans post 2014 pick: "Y U NO GET JONNY FOOTBALL?!?!?!?!!"

 

Jets fans post 2015 pick: "Y U NO GET JAYMIS MARIWANA?!?!?!?!!?!?!"

I will not be missing the Jets fans at the draft

If you are the Bucs and the Eagles offer you Sam Bradford, Vinny Curry, Fletcher Cox, Kendricks, Mathis and their 1st and 2nd this year, do you make that deal?  Those are all names that are being reported as on the table.  

@wasram: According to @RapSheet the @ChicagoBears are in contact with Titans to move up to 2nd overall to draft Mariota. #Bears #2015NFLDraft

Dumbest. Trade. Evar.

 

 

So I was catching up on the La'el Collins situation and I think it could get pretty interesting.  He wants in on the supplemental draft which gives him the opportunity to still be a "first round" pick (more likely second round though).  But if he goes undrafted, which is sounding like a possibility, can he sign with any team he wants for any amount of money?  It'd be pretty interesting to see what the true market value for a top 15 player is.  

It would take some serious legal gymnastics to get him to the Supplemental draft. The CBA doesn't appear to allow it, per Andrew Brandt.

Very interested to see what Cutler's trade value is. 7 to 2 is a big move, I can't imagine it's just 7 + Cutler for 2. That puts his value at mid-1st rounder. 7 + 39 + Cutler for 2 maybe? That puts a 2nd round value on him. I don't know what sounds right because he has the "status" of a franchise QB and the contract of a franchise QB, but I don't consider him to be a true franchise QB.

Sorry, boss

@BuzzFeedSports: A Chicago news station brought Jets fans to town for #NFLDraft so they can continue tradition of booing their picks https://t.co/tqycaiFKZx

 

Trade Cutler to Tampa and swap Smokin' Jay for Rapin' Jay.

 

If I'm da Bears I keep Cutler and fix that ****ty offensive line. It did wonders for Romo.

So that makes it even more interesting.  Does a team use a 7th rounder on him?  Those are practically throw away picks anyway, with such a low percentage turning out to be NFL caliber players.  Obviously the risk is that he is eventually arrested and introduced as "Green Bay Packers offensive tackle, La'el Collins".  This would be the closest to a complete gamble on a player in NFL history, since teams likely will have zero info on the case by the end of the draft (police are not going to tip their hand DURING an investigation for purposes of the NFL draft).  Oh and to those saying that the police are not calling him a suspect....please.  Unless it's obvious, they never release "suspects" to the media.  It's always "person of interest".  

 

I'll be honest, behind the Packers picks, this is the most interesting story of the draft.  

Yes.

I'd do that too.  Bucs have so many holes and with their lack of veteran leadership on the offensive side of the ball, Winston is at huge risk of having no one to teach him how to be in NFL player (which IMO, is his biggest risk) which will make him a bust.  

If Collins goes undrafted he falls into the UDFA category and would be in the rookie cap pool. They (UDFAs) sign minimum rookie deals and there is a signing bonus cap for UDFA's as well.

Ah bummer.  I was hoping this would like free agency for a first round rookie.  Could have been cool to see what would have happened.  If he really wasn't involved in this, this really sucks for him.  He'll miss out on millions for something completely out of his control, ie: just knowing a murder victim.  Of course, if he was involved.......

If you are the Bucs and the Eagles offer you Sam Bradford, Vinny Curry, Fletcher Cox, Kendricks, Mathis and their 1st and 2nd this year, do you make that deal?  Those are all names that are being reported as on the table.  

The only reason I bring this up is that Chip Kelly seems to be willing to do what ever it takes to land Mariota, at least if what is being reported has any credibility, which I know is doubtful this time of year.  If at all true however, the Bucs seem like the trading partner that makes the most sense.  The holes that they need to fill seem to match up with the players being talked about, also, that trade seems to create a team that Lovie Smith could coach.  I wonder how fall Winston would fall if the Bucs and Eagles made a trade.  

 

@AlbertBreer: Redskins have worked trade-down scenarios with other clubs, I'm told. But if a deal is going to happen, it'll be on the clock. Here's why...

 

@AlbertBreer: ... Execution of a deal down from 5 hinges on 2 things: a) whether a player Skins covet falls to 5; b) the other team's target being there.

Posting most for the novelty of the Redskins' looking at doing things sensibly. Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen don't deserve competence.

Told you guys...McCloughan is going to make the skins relevant again.

I'm amazed he didn't workout with the 49ers, then again it was during the Singletary regime.

IIRC his drinking problem came to the fore when in SF and re-emerged during his consulting stint in Seattle.

Sherman had a lot of really good personnel guys around him. He just needed to listen to them.

"I'm still not telling you who I'm picking, Mike."

I want to get vintage 'war room' wallpaper for my den.

He built up the talent pool for the 49ers during his time there (Singletary was the problem in SF), and Baalke/York are busy tearing it all down. I'm loving it.

I have to admit I'm not really caring about the Packers #1 pick at all tonight.  Much more excited about Melvin Gordon and Trae Waynes.  Hopefully those guys will go high and to teams where the situation is right for them (unfortunately Trae could wind up with Minnesota...but I think they will go offense to help Bridgewater).

Who is that on Infante's right? Braatz? 

 

Other than Mandarich, of course, the first 6 round picks were pretty decent. Can't say I remember any of those other guys...

Guaranteed the Ravens take the player we want in round 1.

i think we got our pick at who the top ilb will be

give me a boner ted!

 

can randall play cover corner?

Can't believe the Saints got the ILB I liked.

 

Think for sure a decent one will be there in round two.

 

       
       


Breshad Perriman? Doubtful

I was surprised by the Randall pick.  He figured to be a solid top 45 player, but I figured Ted would slightly downgrade him to a late second round grade based on the 5-10 7/8.  He's the first sub 5-11 defensive back that Ted has drafted since 2005.

 

There is no sense to puss out like McGinn just because Ted threw everyone a curveball in round one.  Time for day two speculation and predictions.

 

Not only Eric Rowe, but there appeared to be a bunch of defensive backs the Packers would like at the end of round two (Alex Carter, Josh Shaw).  Now with Shields, Heyward, Hyde, Randall, Goodson, Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Richardson, Banjo...the Packers certainly have room for 10 DBs on the roster but they probably won't want to add #10 this early.

 

If DE-Mario Edwards/Florida State makes it down to the end of round two, he'd probably be the most attractive player on the board.  But the big question is will Ted continue to ignore the ILB position?  Here's my list of who I think the Packers would take at #62, and this would be the Packer's order of perference.

1.  Denzel Perryman/ILB/Miami, Fl

2.  Mario Edwards Jr/DE/Florida State

3.  Clive Walford/TE/Miami, Fl

4.  David Johnson/RB/Northern Iowa

5.  Eric Rowe/CB/Utah

It gets harder and harder to predict which players will be available at #62, but I think all of these guys could be there.  If all these players get cleaned out then the pick could be a dropper running back (Coleman, Ajayi, Abdullah) or another defensive back (the already mentioned Alex Carter or Josh Shaw).  I really don't think Ted wants to take another DB this early, so if that's the scenario he gets stuck with then he'll look to trade down.  If Kendricks or McKinney drop far enough then he could look to trade up, but both probably are drafted in the top 50 and would command too much to move up.  But in the end I'll say Perryman at #62....if he's off the board then Edwards at #62...etc.

 

Round three, I think the guy that Ted would like would be Colorado State offensive tackle Ty Sambrailo.  But if Ted doesn't get an ILB in round two, can he wait any longer to get one?  I don't think he can.  If the Packer's don't take an ILB in round two, I think the round three prefered players will look something like:

1.  Jake Ryan/ILB/Michigan

2.  Kwon Alexander/ILB/Louisiana State

3.  Ty Sambrailo/OT/Colorado State

4.  Marcus Hardison/DE/Arizona State
5.  MyCole Pruitt/TE/Southern Illinois

6.  Craig Mager/CB/Texas State

If Ted does land an ILB in round two, then just knock Ryan and Alexander off the board and the list is Sambrailo, Hardison, Pruitt, Mager.

 

Gut feeling is that Perryman does somehow make it to #62 and the Packers end up with Denzel Perryman in round two and Ty Sambrailo in round three.  I suppose about the worst case scenario is that Perryman and Edwards are both gone at 62 and the Packers end up with Clive Walford at #62 and Jake Ryan at #94.  I don't mind Ryan at #94, but to me Walford is a bit over-rated and the end of round two seems a bit high...I think tight end value is better a little later on. 

 

And it was wonderful to see both Waynes and Gordon be picked in the top half of round one last night.