Official 2022 Draft Thread

@Herschel posted:

Yeah, I like Moore and Austin a lot, for example, but I don't think the Packers would take either one. Other than the also-thickly-built Cobb, have the Packers drafted and rostered a sub-6' receiver since Ron Wolf took over?

That would kind of eliminate, Dotson, Moore, Austin, Kyle Phillips from UCLA, Wan'Dale Robinson, Bo Melton, Jarreth Stearns from Western Kentucky or Slade Bolden

I think there are exceptions at the slot WR...but they really have to like the kid.

But maybe they will veer from it at some point...sounding like they will give 12 and 17 lots of guaranteed up-front money, which they've never done before in the salary cap era...so a first time for everything I suppose...

@PackerHawk posted:

I'd settle for one that doesn't suck and weighs more than 160 lbs.

Sounds like Fedya's sex life.

@Chongo posted:

I think there are exceptions at the slot WR...but they really have to like the kid.

But maybe they will veer from it at some point...sounding like they will give 12 and 17 lots of guaranteed up-front money, which they've never done before in the salary cap era...so a first time for everything I suppose...

True, but even "slot" has changed for many teams. It was great for small, quick guys to help avoid press coverage, but Cooper Kupp is a slot guy, Jordy was in the slot a lot, guys with good size who can glide but maybe not ideal initial burst. Plus they have made statements about how they want receivers who are also good run blockers downfield.

A name that keeps popping up for me is UConn DT Travis Jones...he has been under the radar because he played on the worst D1 team in the country the last 3 years. He measured 6'4", 325lbs at the combine and ran a 4.92 which is exceptionally fast for in interior DL of that size.

The knocks are "he doesn't have enough quick twitch," but if he did we'd be talking about a top 10 pick like the UGA kids. He has the kind of size and strength if you lined him up next to Lowry and KC, you'd have a pretty massive presence. I could see the Packers grabbing him...may have to be in the 1st though...or possibly trade down into the early 2nd and get him.

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@Chongo posted:

A name that keeps popping up for me is UConn DT Travis Jones...he has been under the radar because he played on the worst D1 team in the country the last 3 years. He measured 6'4", 325lbs at the combine and ran a 4.92 which is exceptionally fast for in interior DL of that size.

The knocks are "he doesn't have enough quick twitch," but if he did we'd be talking about a top 10 pick like the UGA kids. He has the kind of size and strength if you lined him up next to Lowry and KC, you'd have a pretty massive presence. I could see the Packers grabbing him...may have to be in the 1st though...or possibly trade down into the early 2nd and get him.

I like Jones...he'd make a good addition to the DL, alongside Clark.

@Chongo posted:

I like that draft....only player missing is a linebacker or a DL.

@Chongo posted:

A name that keeps popping up for me is UConn DT Travis Jones...he has been under the radar because he played on the worst D1 team in the country the last 3 years. He measured 6'4", 325lbs at the combine and ran a 4.92 which is exceptionally fast for in interior DL of that size.

The knocks are "he doesn't have enough quick twitch," but if he did we'd be talking about a top 10 pick like the UGA kids. He has the kind of size and strength if you lined him up next to Lowry and KC, you'd have a pretty massive presence. I could see the Packers grabbing him...may have to be in the 1st though...or possibly trade down into the early 2nd and get him.

I like Jones a lot. The interesting part is trying to figure out what they're looking for. Clark and Slaton are also NT types. Do they want more of a hog, or someone more sleek?

Everybody here knows my man crush on Jordan davis and that won't be fulfilled but in still hope for an interior DL guy first but would be OK with the guy from Purdue. For 2nd rnd WR Gregg Jennings jr (Skye Moore WMU) because Watson will go to the Raiders!

Mocks are fun, but sometimes we end up playing the board. Here's two similar drafts using different boards:

On the first one, Got 40/41 from Seattle and they took a QB at #28. The logic worked. Devonte Wyatt was the "BPA", but because they had Mafe at #51 and Winfrey at #57, I could get both with the trade. Will both or either of those two still be on the board at those picks in reality? If I didn't trade up in the second, all the DTs are gone by #59, but I doubt Wyatt is there at #28 in the real draft anyway. If he is, I'd think they'd run that card up.

To get both Pierce and Chenal, I had to swap their order between the draft engines and their boards. The "good" TEs are also slotted much higher on TDN.

I enjoy running mocks when I have some down time...a lot of times they are off about players and where they will be drafted, but they often get me to look at names I have not heard before and gives me a wider view of the tallant available.

Yes, it's an extremely nerdy thing to do, but I will fully admit I'm a draft geek.

Love reading what you guys produce this time of year. You teach me about players that aren't on my radar.

Herschel snuck another Gunter in there!

Smoke Monday, pray you don't get tested Tuesday.

Mock Monday Madness...I forced a trade down with Detroit. The main thing is to get an extra 3rd round pick without giving up too much...that could mean any  number of teams as a trade partner. PFF didn't grade it very well, but their player grades don't seem to include combine performances, and Uwazurike is not an Edge...more like a 3-4 DE, and not a 6-6 319 lb. OLB. Taylor is under-rated on PFF's draft board...he'll be long gone before the  7th round.

Any insight as to why they graded Watson at 60 an "F"??  Can't be because they had him at 74.....

It makes no sense to me...

Their grading system appears to be almost completely arbitrary, as bad as First Pick's. Their Ranking and ADP are also pretty independent and they only list WR and OL as needs. I tried a "maximum value" draft and my best grade was the second OT who had the biggest spread between draft slot and rank, but third was a QB who was about even across the board and Mafe who was slightly above rank and 20 spots lower than ADP.

Mafe at 39, rank 35, ADP 59*     A-

Asamoah at 60, rank 39, ADP 60.9*    B-

Beavers at 92, rank 70, ADP 90    B+

Strong at 68, rank 68, ADP 72.6    A-

Watson at 98, rank 74, ADP 102*    B

Domann at 105, rank 88, ADP 98.4    B

Tom at 120, rank 92, ADP 147.2*    B+

Farrell at 130, rank 113, ADP 119.3    C+

Paul at 167, rank 127, ADP 162.9    A+

Sanborn at 169, rank 145, ADP 153.2    B+

Strong at 170, rank 141, ADP 166.6    A-

Deese at 187, rank 169, ADP 164.5    B

Hawkins at 202, rank 197, ADP 181.7    C+

Poe at 242, rank 209, ADP 202.3    A

I like what you're doing, but that's way too many picks.

Extending Campbell means we won't be drafting LB.

Trevor Penning fell in this mock, so I was able to trade up with the Pats to get into that spot. Too good to pass up...great value, could play LT or RT.

Had to move up to get Watson as well, but he fell far enough I was able to get up there for a 7th rounder and 2nd rounder.

Rest was just as the board fell...didn't get one of the top 4 TE, but got maybe the best two athletes at the position...Chiggy can be what we hoped with Deguara...much more athletic as well...very least he's a ST demon.

Thornton was one of the fastest WR at the combine...ST gunner written all over him.

I love the idea of taking o line early

Especially for the right player...

@Packmeister posted:

I like what you're doing, but that's way too many picks.

I was just trying to move into position for the best value picks of slot vs. rank vs. ADP to try and get a handle on their grading scale. Unless they move Love, I don't see them spending a pick, at least before very late, on a QB.

First Pick is even wonkier. It said this was only the fifth-best draft of its group.

Agreed....why would they?

@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:

I love the idea of taking o line early

Why? Drafting OL late has been working fine.

Because it means Greg Gard will be fired

Wait, he still has a job?

For now.

I don't think Penning will be there when we pick...if he was at Iowa instead of Northern Iowa he might be a top 5 pick. I think he's going to be like Bulaga for someone. Generational RT.

Packers get a 4th and 7th round comp picks...4th is pick #140...you can get great depth at that spot.

@PackerHawk posted:

Wait, he still has a job?

To take a team that was picked to finish 10th in the conference, to co share the conference title with Illinois, is an amazing job. He still has a job.

@FinnLander posted:

Any insight as to why they graded Watson at 60 an "F"??  Can't be because they had him at 74.....

Because the people running that sight are fucking morans.

@YATittle posted:

Love reading what you guys produce this time of year. You teach me about players that aren't on my radar.

And trades that will never happen.

Packers get 2 compensatory draft picks for this upcoming draft. A 4th rounder and a 7th rounder.

How's this one? Zion Johnson was sitting there at 28, so I figured I had to take him, considering how we've lost Patrick Lucas. Johnson really solidifies the middle of the O-Line. I then traded up with Philly in the 3rd to nab Logan Hall, giving up a 4th. Chenal was still there in the 4th, so I grabbed him there. Now, we have a solid LB corps. Made a few more minor trades, late, to move around the draft board.

I don’t care for Johnson as a round 1 pick, tbh. Patrick was versatile, but they have a lot of OG candidates already on roster and they could have brought Lucas back for relatively cheap had they viewed him as a starter. I keep liking Daxton Hill to replace Sullivan, for example, but I don’t think they’d do it. Too many comparable players at greater positions of need.

Gutekunst has also ignored WR in good years, but those are common lately. I don’t think there’s any way he can ignore an edge guy this year.

‘The trade up for Hall is also rough since they sunk a luxury pick in Johnson. They did that for Love, but that’s a QB.

I wanted to see where I ended up if I went O-line in the first round...I don't think we need to, either... just an experiment.

@Herschel posted:

I don’t care for Johnson as a round 1 pick, tbh. Patrick was versatile, but they have a lot of OG candidates already on roster and they could have brought Lucas back for relatively cheap had they viewed him as a starter.

Packers don't take OG in R1...if we are going by the last decade plus it's either a pass rusher, DT, OT or DB. Johnson's arms aren't long enough to play OT in the NFL.

My guess is it will be one of the above mentioned positions in R1.

One guy I really wonder about is David Bell. He had a lot of production at Purdue, but does he have good pro skills? He's smaller and has fewer gears than Jordy, and he's not as stout as an Anquan Boldin. His measurables are pretty bad, really, and I don't know he has that special something to make him stand out as a pro.

How did he look in the games?