Chad Reuter of NFL.com latest, Packers move up seven spots in a trade with the New England Patriots and then take Purdue edge rusher George Karlaftis and Ohio State receiver Chris Olave with back-to-back picks at No. 21 and No. 22. But have to give NE two assets, a third-round pick and fourth-round pick.
It's hard to say if the Packers will draft a DL early, since they signed Jarran Reed. It wouldn't be a bad move, at all, if they do draft Jones in the 2nd round, which is where he is projected to go. I just wonder if they'll wait for a lower pick, who might need more time to develop.
I'd rather not see the team move up in the first round. I don't think they need to.
Reed is on a 1 year deal, so DT is completely within the realm of possibility.
If the fatty DT from Georgia is there at 22 I'd think you have to take him.
What do you think of Slayton, so far? Where does he fit in?
@Pakrz posted:If the fatty DT from Georgia is there at 22 I'd think you have to take him.
The dude is unreal for his size.
You know, I've been doing all these mocks, and it seems like such a great idea to trade down and load up on picks, but really, how many guys can a team reasonably fit under the rookie salary cap if they land a bunch of picks within the top, say...150? Can you take 2 1st, 2 2nds, 1 3rd, and 2 or more 4th round picks into a draft and expect to sign that many?
When I do these trade-downs, I end up with 9 out of the top 150, and I think that's where the value is. That just seems like too many, though, or too expensive to sign them all.
Slayton has shown flashes, but his game against the run leaves something to be desired...hopefully he works on that this off-season.
@DH13 posted:They need DL, EDGE and WR in the first 4 picks.
I would add OT, or a swingman OL to that list.
@Chongo posted:
Good lookin' WR. Good hands, body control, plenty fast. I woudn't be mad.
Speaking of DT's, where do you see Henningsen going, and would he make a good Packer?
@Harry Manback posted:Good lookin' WR. Good hands, body control, plenty fast. I woudn't be mad.
Me, either.
UConn's Pro Day...some good stuff here on Travis Jones...
I actually think DT is a need for the Packers. They have Clark and Reed (for a year) but after that its slim. They need another body for the 2022 rotation and might need a starter in 2023.
Safety is another sneaky need. Probably set at starter for 2022 but Amos could be gone next year and Savage needs to take the next step.
Gotta have a WR fairly high... doesn't have to be in R1. I'd be fine with seeing Gute load up on defense with a DL, LB and S with high picks. GB can find quality OL on days 2 and 3.
You can find quality Right tackles on day 3. Mark Tauscher was a 7th round pick. And wasn't Runyan a 6th?
When you have good coaching OL picked later can be taught to play in NFL. Find big bodies that are football players. They don't need to be immediate starters.
Amari's problem is his head. He's dumber than a box of rocks, unfortunately.
If he doesn't have to think about what he is doing, he's OK. But if he has to make on-the-fly decisions (reading coverage on pass routes, reading blocks on returns), he has trouble. My hope is as he matures, so will the mental side of his game.
And I sure wish folks would get thoughts of Beckham, Brown, Fuller, and others out of their heads. We don't need any POS head cases, no matter their 'potential'.
Of course, King Rodgers may have a differing opinion. I'd respect whatever his thoughts are, but I'd have more respect from him moving past his "trust" thing, and ignoring open receivers.
And I don't know how he is reconcile not wanting to go through a rebuild, with.... well, rebuilding the WR starters and depth. Whether a veteran is acquired or not, the typical learning curve will still exist.
Even the TE and OL will be somewhat rebuilt. Of course, the OL has a much better core than in years past, so it should be more on the 'soft' side.
TE needs a harder rebuild. Just as much, if not more, than the WRs.
@Packmeister posted:PFF's WR Rankings. You might be able to read this without a subscription.
And on this list there are nine legit #1 WR prospects, depending on scheme and risk assessment.
But then the questions start:
Wilson: small
Olave: Smaller
Williams: recent knee
Pickens: Two injuries in three years, including the ACL.
London: Speed
Moore: Height
Burks: Speed and agility
Tolbert: Competition
Pierce is the one without the significant question mark. How much does Gutekunst want to gamble? And with the position depth, how high does he really need to take one?
I'm guessing Moore is off their board for where he'll go, but are any of the others?
@pkr_north posted:Also have slayton
My thoughts, as well. I was thinking they may target someone who is more like a 5- technique, to develop behind Dean Lowry.
@YATittle posted:Interesting what he says about the Pack and OBJ
there was nothing interesting said in that link
@Grave Digger posted:Hill is one of the 5 best defensive players in the draft IMO and I think he’s going to “rise” on draft day, similar to Jaire, even though the NFL has probably been hot on him all along. Fantastic instincts, great speed and athleticism, position flexibility being a FS, Star, NB, corner, etc. He’s certainly a guy I could see GB moving up for even though the media has him late in the 20’s right now.
More and more I am leaning towards building a top 3 defense. He would be a great addition.
@skully posted:Chad Reuter of NFL.com latest, Packers move up seven spots in a trade with the New England Patriots and then take Purdue edge rusher George Karlaftis and Ohio State receiver Chris Olave with back-to-back picks at No. 21 and No. 22. But have to give NE two assets, a third-round pick and fourth-round pick.
No, just no.
Starting to think more about staying put and taking Pickens now - guy looks like a freaking gazelle out there catches everything and is a big target
Well ... fortunately....Pickens is known for his catching ability... very few drops... same goes for Alec Pierce.
@Packmeister posted:Well ... fortunately....Pickens is known for his catching ability... very few drops... same goes for Alec Pierce.
And apparently Jahan Dotson.
Just did this Draft Network mock with no trades:
22:George Karlaftis, Edge Purdue
28: Chris Olave, WR OSU
53: John Metchie III, WR Alabama
59: Daniel Faalele, OT Minnesota
92: Alec Pierce, WR Cincy
132: Reed Blankenship, S Middle Tenn
140: Jack Sanborn, LB Wisconsin
171: Charlie Kolar,TE Iowa St
228: Nick Ford, IOL Utah
249: Luke Goedeke, IOL/OT Central Michigan
No IDLs here. 4 receiving threats for ARod; a top Edge guy; The Georgia DL guys were long gone, as was DeMarvin Leal of Texas A&M. Didn't want to give up any of the WRs here. Probably should have taken an IDL after #92.
One thing that still makes me shake my head is the idea of Jacksonville taking Hutchinson #1. They're running a 3-4 concept and have taken OLBs in the first round two of the last three years. Yeah, Josh Allen is the established stud, but they have K'Lavon Chaisson, Jordan Smith and Arden Key signed a one-year deal. A big part of me feels it's all bullshit to try and get an extra pick from Detroit. I really think they want to trade out of #1 in a big way and maybe take Hamilton if Walker Little is ready, or one of the OTs if he's not or to pair with him and move Robinson inside.
@Herschel posted:And on this list there are nine legit #1 WR prospects, depending on scheme and risk assessment.
Tae's concerns were speed (Treylon Burks ran faster at combine) and level of competition in college.
Gutey's job is to assess risks and draft accordingly...
Jameson Williams had an ACL injury, but they are fairly common these days, and while he probably wouldn't be ready this season, but he just turned 21, is 6'2 and pre-injury was clocked anywhere from 4.27 to 4.32 when in college. IF he falls to 22, I hope the Packers take the risk because I think he's going to be a game changer once he's fully healed.
Guys like Megatron and Julio Jones who are can't miss impact guys from day one are rare.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind the Packers taking Watson at 22...level of competition will be the knock, but he's going to be special I think.
PFN Mock Simulator with trade backs:
22: Daxton Hill, S
43: Boye Mafe, Edge
53: Christian Watson, WR
58: George Pickens, WR
59: Bernhard Raimann, OT
92: Logan Hall, DT
@mrtundra posted:Just did this Draft Network mock with no trades:
No IDLs here. 4 receiving threats for ARod; a top Edge guy; The Georgia DL guys were long gone, as was DeMarvin Leal of Texas A&M. Didn't want to give up any of the WRs here. Probably should have taken an IDL after #92.
Packers need a TE...but I am not so sure they will take one.
It's not a great year for TE in terms of impact talent...but there is a good collection of potential.
Trey McBride is probably the most NFL ready...he's probably the closest skillset wise to Kittle...although not quite as good of a blocker.
After that there is a sharp drop off to Ruckert, Dulcich and Kolar...Dulcich is probably the best athlete of the 3, Kolar probably has the best chance to be successful.
Jelani Woods is the most intriguing prospect because he tested better than any TE in combine history...but he's 6'7...some say that may be too tall...although it didn't seem to be an issue for Marcedes Lewis in his prime. I'm not sure he fits with what the Packers do.
My favorite is Chig Okonkwo from Maryland...I believe he's a more athletic version of Deguara and could be special in this offense...but given they have Deguara and have seen "flashes" I am not sure they use a pick on him...because that means you are probably cutting Josiah soon.
Wydermyer from TAMU has really been a disappointment...she underwhelmed at both the combine and pro day...ran a 40 north of 5 seconds...he may not even get drafted now. A month ago, I thought he might be the 2nd TE taken off the board.