Official 2022 Draft Thread

@Chongo posted:

Per Kiper's latest, Drake London and Chris Olave will be long gone by the time the Packers pick at 22. He has London going 4th overall to NYJ, Garrett Wilson 8th to ATL and Olave going 16th to PHI. Has Pats taking Jameson Williams at 21, but he is at least a year away since he tore his ACL in January.

Kiper has us taking Texas A&M OG Kenyon Green who many have compared to Elgton Jenkins. He then has us taking Arkansas WR Treylon Burks at #28. Burks has fallen because of a poor 40 in the combine. If he is the only choice at 28, Packers may pull the trigger on NDSU's Christian Watson who is way more athletic than Burks, although played at a much smaller school.

I’d be ok with that.  You win in the trenches.  I think I’d rather pick an edge rusher depending on who falls where, of course.

@Harry Manback posted:

So was Mike Mayok.  The Raiders cared.  I thought it was a dumb move to hire a tv analyst as a gm, but I was definitely interested to see how it worked out.

I think the other tv star in the room got in Mayock's way...I'd like to know whose decision it was to reach for Clelin Ferrell. They passed over Devin White (LB) and Josh Allen (DE).

looking more and more like 40, maybe 45 of the top players will be gone by pick 22

#46 will drop in Guteys lap

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— Daire Carragher (@DaireCarragher) March 24, 2022

I kind of like this draft.  With their lack of athleticism at WR, I'm cool with them double dipping especially with Wilson and Pickens being different types of WRs (one slot one outside/deep threat).  Would go well with Lazard being a possession WR.  And Green can play all over the line, including both guard spots and RT.  With our injuries on the OL the last 2 years, flexibility is huge.  Just adds options when Jenkins comes back.  And Harris was BPA at #59 but you need another LB behind Campbell, so actually makes sense.  Would have loved to see a DL or edge drop but just didn't see it. 

• 22. Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State

• 28. Kenyon Green, IOL, Texas A&M

• 53. George Pickens, WR, Georgia

• 59. Christian Harris, LB, Alabama

I look back at gute's bio...

he likes metrics on prototypical guys and guys that are not injured in the first.  drake has an ankle, so if gute goes wr, which i think is more possible, its one of the size speed guys with playmaker, so the osu guys (either one) or the psu guy dotson...i also see a place where that guy from minn (de i think) is the pick, mafe..

@packerboi posted:

How ya doin keep it movin pic.twitter.com/gG2PtzRifs

— Daire Carragher (@DaireCarragher) March 24, 2022

Daxton Hill is intriguing as heck. I’d probably rather have had Jevon Holland or Richie Grant, but a safety with slot skills would be sweet.

Safety is a sneaky need for this team.  They only have Amos under contract for next season.  Savage hasn't shown himself to be consistent and behind them, there isn't much.

EDIT: And to the crowd that thinks voidable years are just free cap room - Amos' cap hit in 2023 is $8m even though he won't be playing for us.  And that can't be restructured. 

On another website, they're saying the Pack is serious about acquiring DK Metcalf from the Seahawks but the price would be a first and second this year and a first in 2023.

Too steep for me since he has only one more year under contract.

Yeah, Metcalf is just mental masturbation at this point...in year he's gonna want a $27M a year contract...yeah he's young but then we are in the same predicament we were with 17. Don't see the Packers giving up the draft capital Seattle will require to get him.

We will bide our time, sign a vet late, maybe after June 1 for salary purposes, and draft a rookie or two like we did when we took MVS, EQ and J'Mon Moore.

Yikes…

I sure hope we draft better than that draft (2018)

1 winner from this entire draft...not good.

1 Jaire Alexander Louisville
2 Josh Jackson Iowa
3 Oren Burks Vanderbilt
4 J'Mon Moore Missouri
5 Cole Madison Washington St.
5 JK Scott Alabama
5 Marquez Valdes-Scantling South Florida
6 Equanimeous St. Brown Notre Dame
7 James Looney California
7 Hunter Bradley Mississippi St.
7 Kendall Donnerson

Maurice Jones Drew did a mock draft, for NFL.com, where he had GB getting WRs. Chris Olave at #22 and Treylon Burks at #28. Not bad!

Gute needs a WR that is closer to a finished product than a long term project, probably in RD1.  One problem is everyone knows he'll probably be targeting a WR at either 22 or 28 so the other WR needy teams will be ready to pounce.  Would be more interesting if they landed Parker before the draft.

I worry that Olave peaked in college.

I peaked in kindergarten.

2017 Draft - Only two still on the team. One clear winner in AJ, and King has been up and down.

2 Kevin King Washington
2 Josh Jones North Carolina St. - BUST
3 Montravius Adams Auburn - BUST
4 Vince Biegel 108 Wisconsin - BUST
4 Jamaal Williams 134 BYU - Was good 2nd option
5 DeAngelo Yancey 175 Purdue
5 Aaron Jones 182 Texas-El Paso - Winner!!!
6 Kofi Amichia 212 South Florida
7 Devante Mays 238 Utah St.
7 Malachi Dupre 247 LSU

2019 Draft - This is looking a little better, hovering around 50% success rate.

1 Rashan Gary 12 Michigan  - Winner, rising star
1 Darnell Savage Jr. Maryland - Could be a winner if he ups his game
2 Elgton Jenkins 44 Mississippi St. - Winner, and likely perennial pro-bowler if healthy
3 Jace Sternberger Texas A&M - BUST
5 Kingsley Keke 150 Texas A&M - BUST
6 Ka'dar Hollman 185 Toledo
6 Dexter Williams 194 Notre Dame
7 Ty Summers 226 TCU - Perennial special-teamer. Nothing to write home about.

IMO, you need the following from each draft you need a difference maker, a plus starter, a solid starter, and a solid contributor from every draft.  Obviously the difference maker is the important piece and Gute has crushed it in that effect - Alexander, Gary, and Jenkins.  He's gotten plus starters too - Savage, Dillon, and Stokes (with all three showing flashes of being difference makers).  He has solid starters in Myers, Runyan, and MVS.  And he's also gotten solid contributors - Deguara, Newman, and Martin.  So he's met expectations through three drafts so far but obviously can do better. 

2020 Draft - Jordan remains a question mark, but I'll give that pick a pass, for now. How good would a WR have looked at that pick, though? We could have drafted Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman, or Chase Claypool, perhaps even moving down if a trade partner was available. Van Jefferson wouldn't have been a bad pick, either.

   One last thing about that 1st round, too. If we could move up to 26 to draft Jordan Love, it's not too much a reach to think we could have moved up ahead of the Vikings at #22 to take Justin Jefferson, if he's someone we really wanted.

1 Jordan Love 26 Utah St. - Could be a plus pick. Grade incomplete.
2 AJ Dillon 62 Boston Col. - Winner
3 Josiah Deguara 94 Cincinnati - I'm not as high on Deguara as some are. Grade incomplete
5 Kamal Martin 175 Minnesota - BUST
6 Jon Runyan 192 Michigan - Winner. Runyan has been solid
6 Jake Hanson 208 Oregon - Not impressed, so far. Not sure why he's still on the roster.
6 Simon Stepaniak 209 Indiana
7 Vernon Scott 236 TCU
7 Jonathan Garvin 242 Miami (FL) - An OK backup. Let's hope he continues to develop.

@Packmeister posted:

I sure hope we draft better than that draft (2018)

1 winner from this entire draft...not good.

1 Jaire Alexander Louisville
2 Josh Jackson Iowa
3 Oren Burks Vanderbilt
4 J'Mon Moore Missouri
5 Cole Madison Washington St.
5 JK Scott Alabama
5 Marquez Valdes-Scantling South Florida
6 Equanimeous St. Brown Notre Dame
7 James Looney California
7 Hunter Bradley Mississippi St.
7 Kendall Donnerson

HORRIBLE!!

How is Kamal Martin a bust? Have you seen him bag groceries? Spectacular!

Another Kurt Warner

A 6th round pick offensive lineman and your not impressed. Was he picked to be a starter? The Packers pick offensive lineman every year as projects, they hang out on the practice squad to learn. Beats the hell our of having offensive lineman like the bears

That's really an incomplete look at the 2018 draft. Gutey managed to get another first-rounder that he used for Savage and the team got four good years out of MVS. The fact that the Chiefs were willing to overpay for his services shouldn't be held against the GM.

All that said, I'll agree that overall his drafting has been relatively lackluster, especially in the middle and later rounds and he definitely needs to do better.

I'm still a fan of Gutekunst. He's made some extremely good free agency moves, which have negated a lot of the draft failures, especially Ted's. But, those '17 and '18 drafts don't look very good.

I didn't rule Hanson a bust. I just said he hasn't done much to impress. If he was anything, we wouldn't have had to draft Myers last year.

I don't think Keke was a bust.  He was solid depth until he pooped his attitude.

@DH13 posted:

I don't think Keke was a bust.  He was solid depth until he pooped his attitude.

Have to think the two concussions were a factor. CTE is a big deal, and it could be taking hold...

Well said...let's call him a draft pick unfulfilled, and wish him the best.

BTW - someone else mentioned how our Texas A&M picks don't seem to be panning out...

Found on the internet:  Jahan Dotson, Khalil Shakir, and Bo Melton, all of whom make great catches and seem to be smart WRs.

I seek the opinion of the X4 draft experts. You know who you are.

Dotson grades out as late 1st - through 2nd round, depending on who you ask. He could be a dangerous weapon for the Packers, though, if used correctly.

Jahan Dotson - Penn State  5'11  178  4.43  -- --  7.28  36  10-1 9 .50  30.75

PFF grades Shakir as a 4th rounder, although they also have him as #64 on the board, which places him at the end of round 2 - early round 3.

Khalil Shakir - Boise State  6'0  196  4.43  4.21 --  7.28  34.5  10-4  9.50  29.00

I don't have much on Melton. These are his combine numbers: He looks like a speed merchant...except for the two Austins, Melton had the best 3-cone time for the wide receivers (6.98).

Bo Melton - Rutgers      5'11   189  4.34  -- --  6.98  38  10-1  9.00  31.25

@YATittle posted:

I seek the opinion of the X4 draft experts. You know who you are.

I guess that leaves me out.

I'm hoping Alec Pierce is as good as his athleticism...solid numbers for a guy his size...Some may have him ranked as a 2nd round pick, but if he's a solid WR, I'd take him in the 1st.

Player School Hght Wght Off. 40 Unoff. 40 10-Yd Split Bench 3-cone Vert Broad Hand Arm

Alec Pierce Cincinnati 6'3 211 4.41 4.33 4.28 -- 7.13 40.5 10-9 9.00 33.00

Watson is another one who fits that same profile, although reports seem to indicate he may be a bit more raw a prospect than Pierce. Again, it depends on who you ask.

Player School Hght Wght Off. 40 Unoff. 40 10-Yd Split Bench 3-cone Vert Broad Hand Arm

Christian Watson North Dakota State 6'4 208 4.36 4.28 -- -- DNP 38.5 11-4 10.13 32.50

Sure seems like we have real options in the draft at this position.

Here's an interesting look at three ILB prospects.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/...ions-for-packers-429

It's a great draft to take wide receivers...early, mid, and late picks...

Yes. I like all 3 of those linebackers. Anderson may be a bit of a project, because he was a QB, but there's no denying his athleticism. Tindall is a bit smaller, but fast, and Jackson might be more of a thumper. Personally, I'd like to see us draft Leo Chenal, but not sure where's he's going to get drafted. If he's on the board in the 4th, man...I'd take a good, long look at drafting him...no, I'd run up to the podium...lol   Maybe even in the 3rd...

Draft 2. One in the 1st and one mid-rounds… sign or trade for a veteran or two and force 12 to actually try to find open MFers not wearing #17.

The two most NFL ready WR are Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave...both run outstanding routes and have the athleticism to compete soon. Drake London from USC is a close 3rd, but there are some questions about how soon because he had end of season surgery and hasn't been able to work out. On film he's the most impressive WR in the class IMO...he is like a slower version of Megatron. But he will be a pain in the ass for whoever has to guard him for a while. TE with WR speed.

Jameson Williams was the #1 guy until he blew his ACL in the national title game...so he's at least a year out. That's likely why he drops.

2nd tier of guys are Treylon Burks from Arkansas and Jahan Dotson from Penn State. Dotson is more polished than Burks, but Burks has a bigger upside...reminds me a lot of David Boston...he can carry 235lbs no problem on his 6'2 frame. But he's never going to blaze past guys. Dotson concerns me...he's a little small and doesn't have quite that extra gear you'd like for sacrificing the height.

3rd tier guys are the lower level school kids...Skyy Moore from W. Michigan, Christian Watson from NDSU and Calvin Austin III from Memphis. Austin and Moore are too small for the Packers...they have great speed, but not Tyreek Hill type speed. Watson, if he played at a P5 school I think would be the first WR off the board. Totally fits what the Packers like...6'5", 208, 10.5" hands, former basketball player, 4.36 40 and damn near a 40" vertical. He's like a faster but less polished version of Drake London IMO.

The Packers won't be taking Austin nor Moore. All others are on the table. They will still need to bring in a vet as WR1...otherwise it's Lazard, Cobb, Rodgers and rookie(s).