I’d be totally fine with those picks and focusing on the defense.
You add a guy like Chenal to go along with Campbell and figure out another way to get a pass rusher and upgrade at DE and this could be a dominant defensive unit.
That being said, I still do junk you could add a guy like Olave and get your pass rusher and/or more explosive DE if the draft falls their way.
Interesting article. Your thoughts?
I am guessing the Packers stand pat at 22 and 28 or trade back. Not a forgone conclusion they go WR in round 1...Christian Watson in round 2 fits their size requirements. But they'd likely need to trade back into the first 5-6 picks in the 2nd to have a shot.
Olave is a lot of flash...could be OBJ, could be an absolute bust.
Drake London is very similar to Mike Pittman...he does fit the Packers size requirements, but not sure they like him at 22...maybe 28.
Penning is a guy I could see them take at 22...that's a very Packers pick. But I am skeptical he will be there.
Karlaftis is another very Packers pick...in the mocks I have done, I have grabbed him at 22 several times. Could totally see this pick...upgrades the edge in a big way.
Ojabo...don't think he falls to 22, but if he is, the Packers would be foolish to pass up on him. Achilles injuries are not like ACL's...they heal, and once they do, they rarely get injured again. This is a top 10 pick...if he falls to 22 I am OK with him going to the Packers knowing the first half of his rookie year is a wash.
Garrett Wilson...better route runner than Olave...I am guessing he's well gone by 22.
Treylon Burks...I love him, but he's basically DK Metcalf...he is hurt by his poor 40 at the combine...not sure he fits what the Packers like.
Jordan Davis...the only player at 22 I'd say the Packers take over Ojabo. But he's not going to be around that long IMO...don't think he gets past Chargers at 17 and that's worst case. If he makes it to 15, the Packers have to start thinking about trading #22 and a 3rd to get up there and get him. Kind of steep...but you have 2 1sts and 2 2nds...this guy I think is going to be a game changer. My fear is we see him go to the Queens at 12.
This is why Ojabo is worth the risk...
If this dude comes to GB, I am starting a social media campaign to bring back the "Gravedigger," celebration...
An alternative view.
Comments on this mock?
@YATittle posted:An alternative view.
Wow! He has him as a 5th round grade. He seems worth paying attention to.
"I put a fourth-round documented grade on last year’s overhyped defensive tackle, Alabama’s Christian Barmore, and everyone thought I was crazy.
Barmore went second-round to New England, and managed to only produce 23 solo tackles and 1.5 sacks in 17 regular season games.
Jordan Davis is no Christian Barmore."
Some Badgers who might go to Green Bay.
@YATittle posted:An alternative view.
That's some serious hot take horseshit.
Yeah, he got subbed on that defense, no shit. One of the reasons the Packers need him is to stop grinding Kenny Clark to a pulp.
Collapsing the pocket is huge, even if stats don't show it. I like Davis a LOT more than Barmore, whom I thought wasn't worth a first.
@YATittle posted:What do you think of TE Trey McBride?
They probably should have signed Austin Hooper and saved the pick if he goes early. He has a decent skill set, but I don't think he's a mismatch for anyone, nor is he that crafty. He's probably a solid TE in a couple of years but this class is pretty mediocre.
@YATittle posted:Comments on this mock?
Olave is interesting. Does he offer enough as a run blocker to fit their profile? He's pretty slight.
There are very few big men with pro skill sets. Davis is BJ Raji given the Captain America Juice. Maybe I'm wrong, I just don't see how he's still on the board at 22, let alone 28.
I can see Gutekunst liking Watson: Big, fast, athletic and hands of stone. He fits his profile perfectly. 
I like Mitchell. He supposedly got worked a few times at the Senior Bowl practices, but then there were some pretty good pass rush prospects there. He's a bit light, but seems a good pass blocker.
Chenal is a fun idea, but I'm doubting the Packers invest any more at the position, unfortunately.
@Chongo posted:I am guessing the Packers stand pat at 22 and 28 or trade back.
Trade back? That ain’t happening.
@Herschel posted:That's some serious hot take horseshit.
Yeah, he got subbed on that defense, no shit. One of the reasons the Packers need him is to stop grinding Kenny Clark to a pulp.
Collapsing the pocket is huge, even if stats don't show it. I like Davis a LOT more than Barmore, whom I thought wasn't worth a first.
Hmmm?
"In 2021, Davis put up two sacks in 13 games.
He put up these low sack numbers against lesser level competition than what the NFL has to offer.
Even as a run-stuffer, Davis’ production left a lot to be desired at Georgia:
Davis has only put up seven sacks and 37 solo tackles in four years."
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:Trade back? That ain’t happening.
Perhaps two picks. It could happen depending on the board.
Receivers I like the Packers would like:
Drake London - He's the prototype for the big, talented receiver they seem to like and also has good hands.
Treylon Burks - Smoother and faster than London, though also not as big.
Alec Pierce - He feels like Jordy with a bit of Adams mixed in. He's got size and long speed, maybe not a whole lot of shake and bake, and natural hands. Okay, I like him a lot.
Christian Watson - Tall, fast, questionable hands. We have three fairly recent examples natural hands aren't a requirement for Gutekunst.
Romeo Doubs - A bit of a MVS clone but a good deep threat
Justyn Ross - See Christian Watson, though also seems to make circus catches. He's also a Redshirt Senior.
Erik Ezukanma - Okay, I love this guy. He's big, he's an easy mover with great body control, tracks the ball well, solid hands, shields defenders away well and will lay a fool out as a run blocker downfield. He may run a little upright, which might slow his breaks a bit.
thanks for that ojabe video. if you have not seen it, go watch. also that hutchinson guy is relentless...i think he would be worth a first if the medical would show he can 100% recover - the guy has amazing awareness of the ball and how to swat it, man...baller swim move too...super fast, looks real good.
i also don't see gute picking an injured wr in the first...just my .02
@D J posted:Hmmm?
"In 2021, Davis put up two sacks in 13 games.
He put up these low sack numbers against lesser level competition than what the NFL has to offer.
Even as a run-stuffer, Davis’ production left a lot to be desired at Georgia:
- 2021: 32 tackles (17 solo)
- 2020: 16 tackles (7 solo)
- 2019: 18 tackles (7 solo)
- 2018: 25 tackles (6 solo)
Davis has only put up seven sacks and 37 solo tackles in four years."
You seem to misunderstand how NTs work. Playing with guys like Wyatt, Walker, Quay Walker and Dean is going to gut your stats but he blows up the middle of the opposing offense. That's game controlling potential.
@D J posted:Wow! He has him as a 5th round grade. He seems worth paying attention to.
"I put a fourth-round documented grade on last year’s overhyped defensive tackle, Alabama’s Christian Barmore, and everyone thought I was crazy.
Barmore went second-round to New England, and managed to only produce 23 solo tackles and 1.5 sacks in 17 regular season games.
Jordan Davis is no Christian Barmore."
Yeah, a lot of scouts didn't like Davante out of college either.
@Chongo posted:Different animal than MVS...there is a reason he didn't run the 40 at the combine. Not saying he's not an NFL guy, but he's not going to burn past anyone unless they are a Mountain West DB.
I'm curious to see what he runs tomorrow at their pro day. He's not MVS fast, but he does have a knack for getting open deep, though yes, Mountain West DBs.
@Herschel posted:I'm curious to see what he runs tomorrow at their pro day. He's not MVS fast, but he does have a knack for getting open deep, though yes, Mountain West DBs.
Yeah I’m not gonna be too hard on MWC DB, Davante made his living off of beating them. Doubs I don’t think will be great because there are already whispers about his work ethic. Tae and Derek Carr were gym rats in college.
My guess is Doubs runs at best a 4.55 but wouldn’t surprise me to see him run a 4.6
@Herschel posted:You seem to misunderstand how NTs work. Playing with guys like Wyatt, Walker, Quay Walker and Dean is going to gut your stats but he blows up the middle of the opposing offense. That's game controlling potential.
You see to not know when a guy had a mediocre 4-years and then blows up at the combine is a red flag of red flags.
Davante didn't "take 3 years to develop into a top tier WR" either. He had all the skills coming out of college, ripped up NFL DB's in a couple games as a rookie, one of those games in the playoffs and was playing injured in a year AR had no one else to throw to, getting labeled as someone with the drops and possibly a bust. I remember the clip from his rookie training camp that landed on this site showing what looked like him juking Casey Heyward out of his jock. If there was any knock on Adams coming out of college it was that he didn't go against top tier DB's and wasn't a 4.4 guy.
I'm hoping it's Olave with the 1rst pick, even if they have to move up a couple slots.
He seems NFL ready, makes contested catches, and can make the sideline catches. He will produce in year 1 in my opinion.
olave looks good, real crisp routes, fast, is where he should be; that should 'help' with our qb...i don't like that he looks real slight...can he take some shots, can he beat press...the physical part...i like to take that burks kid and make him an electric te...
Found on the internet: #22. Jameson Williams. WR Alabama
#28. Christian Watson WR N. Dakota State
#53. Trey McBride TE Colorado State
#59. Leo Chenal LB. WI.
#92. Troy Andersen LB Montana State
132. Nick Cross S Maryland
140. Tycen Anderson S Toledo.
171. Javion Heiligh WR/ST Coastal Carolina
228. Decoble Durrant CB. SC. State
249. Isaih Pacheco. RB Toledo
258. Cooper McCaw OT Liberty
In a historically good edge draft and in real need of another d-lineman they take neither? That would be a head scratcher, for sure.
And I don’t think even Watson’s mom would take him in the first round.
Cross and Anderson would be pretty cool and probably really beef up special teams coverage units this year.
Yeah, Herschel, I wondered about that. I'll eat a crow if one of the two first rounders isn't a DL or an Edge.
Andersen is the closes thing to Brian Urlacher I have seen ever. He is going to make some team very happy.
When Urlacher was at New Mexico, in one game I watched him return a punt for a TD, get a pick six and get a strip-sack which he picked up and returned 70 yards for a TD.
@Chongo posted:Andersen is the closes thing to Brian Urlacher I have seen ever. He is going to make some team very happy.
When Urlacher was at New Mexico, in one game I watched him return a punt for a TD, get a pick six and get a strip-sack which he picked up and returned 70 yards for a TD.
We got Bubba Franks.
Kiper has the Pack going OL at 22 and WR at 28.
@DH13 posted:Davante didn't "take 3 years to develop into a top tier WR" either. He had all the skills coming out of college, ripped up NFL DB's in a couple games as a rookie, one of those games in the playoffs and was playing injured in a year AR had no one else to throw to, getting labeled as someone with the drops and possibly a bust. I remember the clip from his rookie training camp that landed on this site showing what looked like him juking Casey Heyward out of his jock. If there was any knock on Adams coming out of college it was that he didn't go against top tier DB's and wasn't a 4.4 guy.
I seem to remember that Davante had all sorts of trouble catching the ball, early in his time as a Packer. It took a while before he could consistently catch Rodgers' passes.
@michiganjoe posted:Kiper has the Pack going OL at 22 and WR at 28.
I can see Gute going WR with both # 22 and #28. Especially now that both Davante and ESB are gone and with MVS's situation unresolved, yet. Then going IDL and O Line with #53 and #59.
@YATittle posted:Found on the internet: #22. Jameson Williams. WR Alabama
#28. Christian Watson WR N. Dakota State
#53. Trey McBride TE Colorado State
#59. Leo Chenal LB. WI.
#92. Troy Andersen LB Montana State
132. Nick Cross S Maryland
140. Tycen Anderson S Toledo.
171. Javion Heiligh WR/ST Coastal Carolina
228. Decoble Durrant CB. SC. State
249. Isaih Pacheco. RB Toledo
258. Cooper McCaw OT Liberty
Isn't Williams the guy who tore up his knee late in the season? I know he is an insane talent but man you have to give it some long thought taking a guy who who don't know will see the field.
@mrtundra posted:I seem to remember that Davante had all sorts of trouble catching the ball, early in his time as a Packer. It took a while before he could consistently catch Rodgers' passes.
Nope. While he certainly reduced his drops as he matured, the only real season he had a problem was the year he played on a bad ankle and AR was forcing him the ball because he was the only legitimate WR on the roster.
@The Heckler posted:Isn't Williams the guy who tore up his knee late in the season? I know he is an insane talent but man you have to give it some long thought taking a guy who who don't know will see the field.
yep, and it just happened during the College Football Playoff Championship Game in January.
