I just don't think Olave gets past the Saints. Just my opinion.
I agree on the punter, too.
@Packmeister posted:A sad, tragic ending for a very good football player. Same goes for Derrick Thomas.
Simmons died in a car accident after rolling the vehicle going over 100 MPH with a BAC of 0.19.
https://www.theintelligencer.c...n-Crash-10522279.php
Thomas was driving 70 MPH on icy roads without a seatbelt. He died from a blood clot after being paralyzed.
Unfortunately, one of the reasons these guys were such good football players was that they had no fear of anyone and intimidated the hell out of opposing players.
It's amazing Lawrence Taylor didn't die young. No one was crazier than him.
I just wonder if all three suffered, or are suffering from CTE...this is an issue that will not go away... not in this sport.
@MichiganPacker posted:Simmons died in a car accident after rolling the vehicle going over 100 MPH with a BAC of 0.19.
https://www.theintelligencer.c...n-Crash-10522279.php
Thomas was driving 70 MPH on icy roads without a seatbelt. He died from a blood clot after being paralyzed.
Unfortunately, one of the reasons these guys were such good football players was that they had no fear of anyone and intimidated the hell out of opposing players.
It's amazing Lawrence Taylor didn't die young. No one was crazier than him.
That's why I think Sam Wiiliams is in play. If he cleared the interview, don't be surprised if we take him ahead of other teams.
3rd round grade
@D J posted:What I said, pick the BPA on their board.
So we get to 22 or 28 and the BPA on their board is a QB. Draft the QB?
Or take the next BPA on the board, assuming said player has a 1st Round grade.
.. and he is someone we want to draft...
Otherwise reach a little bit and make sure we at least get someone we really want.
Look...if all the guys we really want at 22 are gone, then trade it, if there is a deal to be made...there is a ton of value in rounds 2 through 5... and maybe it turns out to be a #1 next year, plus a 2nd or 3rd round pick... a lot can happen... don' rule out any possibilities.
@Packmeister posted:Why Jameson Williams Is BY FAR The Best WR In The Draft! (Film Breakdown)
Makes you kinda' hope he becomes a Packer...
That s the one guy who looks like a budding super star, but one year of production and the injury?
After reading Downer McGinns article today on Wrs and the comments from pro scouts, Packers may be better served using what they got and fortify the offensive line and defense and run and run and run the ball. None of the Wrs available in teh draft are expected to do much. He was down on Burks, Watson, and Pickett, wrs I was thinking would be good fits. Now I want them to draft an offensive or defensive linemen first and Trey McBride (who got a lot of love) with their later 1st round pic.
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1. TREY McBRIDE, Colorado State (6-3 ½, 245, 4.56, 1-2): With scouts guessing he would clock between 4.7 and 4.8, he stunned them with the 4.56 at pro day after electing not to run at the combine. “If he had run 4.7s I’d have been happy,” one personnel man said. “Now that he ran 4.55, he might go at the very end of the first round. I’ve been a fan of his for three years. I knew he would be undervalued. He’s going to walk in and be a Day 1 starter. Led his high school (Fort Morgan, Colo.) in home runs, played basketball, he’s done it all. Everybody knew that the ball was coming his way and he still caught 91 passes (actually 90) and dropped three.” Three-time team captain. “There’s nothing I don’t like about him,” said another scout. “You could say lack of height. Blocking might be the best part of his game. He is freaking tenacious. He’s also reliable and sure-handed. He’s not as long as (George) Kittle. I see more Kyle Juszczyk. H-back, fullback, bad ass.” Finished with 164 catches for 2,100 (12.8) and 10 TDs. Wonderlic of 18. “I compared him to a mini-Jason Witten in that he’s not a naturally gifted athlete but he’s very, very efficient, has excellent feel and really good hands,” said a third scout. “Not a blow-the-top-off explosive tight end but he knows how to get open and is going to catch everything. He was their offense. Without a doubt (he’ll start).” His hand size (10 1/8) tied Jeremy Ruckert for the largest at the position.
Going to be interesting to see how high McBride goes. Almost every simulator site has him going in second round. Would LOVE a TE that will threaten the seam vs. Cover 2, but IDK if he is worth a First Round pick?
@Goalline posted:That s the one guy who looks like a budding super star, but one year of production and the injury?
Good point...hard to argue with the tape, though.
I think either Edge, Safety, IDL or WR makes sense in the first round. Depending on how the board falls, one of those positions will be there at #22 and another position will be there at #28. We can use an Edge Rusher, especially now that Zadaroius is gone. A Safety makes sense because of the uncertainty surrounding both Savage's and Amos's status with the Packers after next season. A stud IDL, to pair with Kenny Clark, long-term, would give us a fearsome defensive front. We know we need a WR who can stretch the field, as well. Gute and Co have some decisions to make. Our first two rounds are critical ones for getting top notch players out of this draft.
@FLPACKER posted:Going to be interesting to see how high McBride goes. Almost every simulator site has him going in second round. Would LOVE a TE that will threaten the seam vs. Cover 2, but IDK if he is worth a First Round pick?
Though the player bio posted is supposed to be a "Strengths" type blurb, it did not scream RD1 to me.
@Packmeister posted:Good point...hard to argue with the tape, though.
Some draft mockers think he could be ready by TC, most believe he'll play in 2022. I think we'll know the unofficial outlook on his rehab by how high he gets drafted. Teams will get information we won't have access to. If he drops he likely doesn't play this year.
@Goalline posted:Agreed, but he won’t play this year. Are we all in or not?
LOL...I hear you, but saying it and being it are two different things. He's a rare talent who may be worth it.
Don’t blow draft picks on injured players….PLEASE
@YooperPackfan posted:Don’t blow draft picks on injured players….PLEASE
Rashan Gary was injured. Shoulder was so bad there was a question whether or not he'd need season-ending surgery.
People don't remember when drafting an injured player works out.
Yeah well an ACL IS a season ending injury no matter what the draft mockers say
@mrtundra posted:I think either Edge, Safety, IDL or WR makes sense in the first round. Depending on how the board falls, one of those positions will be there at #22 and another position will be there at #28. We can use an Edge Rusher, especially now that Zadaroius is gone. A Safety makes sense because of the uncertainty surrounding both Savage's and Amos's status with the Packers after next season. A stud IDL, to pair with Kenny Clark, long-term, would give us a fearsome defensive front. We know we need a WR who can stretch the field, as well. Gute and Co have some decisions to make. Our first two rounds are critical ones for getting top notch players out of this draft.
Why not worry about a safety next year ? We are set at least this year. A rookie safety next year would not be horrible if we even do lose Amos or Savage. Maybe if a good was there later in the draft. IMHO 
@Goalline posted:Agreed, but he won’t play this year. Are we all in or not?
He's going to play this year. Not week 1 but I bet he's playing before mid-season.
IMO this is the most accurate I have see http://twitter.com/MoveTheStic.../1516806715911675910
@The Grinder posted:Why not worry about a safety next year ? We are set at least this year. A rookie safety next year would not be horrible if we even do lose Amos or Savage. Maybe if a good was there later in the draft. IMHO
Henry Black played 40% of the defensive snaps last year. I'd like to think we can upgrade from Henry Black.
@PackerHawk posted:He's going to play this year. Not week 1 but I bet he's playing before mid-season.
As a rookie, playing with Rodgers with no training camp? Things will harken back to his O$U days.
@Packmeister posted:I'll drink to that! 🥃
I can't tell if the glass is half empty or half full... lol
It's a glass that's about to be fully empty?
@The Grinder posted:Why not worry about a safety next year ? We are set at least this year. A rookie safety next year would not be horrible if we even do lose Amos or Savage. Maybe if a good was there later in the draft. IMHO
Savage was pretty bad last year. Hopefully he bounces back but he kinda sucked.
I think you're right about that. That was BS, although it was "legal", it was totally unnecessary.
@13X posted:Savage was pretty bad last year. Hopefully he bounces back but he kinda sucked.
Thats what I was seeing. He acted like he didn't want to get hurt when he had to tackle or be physical. I loved it when we drafted him and a little his first year but since I haven't been impressed. but then BAM he makes an interception or something and I forgive a tiny bit. 
@PackerHawk posted:So we get to 22 or 28 and the BPA on their board is a QB. Draft the QB?
Heh. If that ends up being the case, which it won't with this year's class of QB's, we'd be looking at a really shitty draft.
I believe that's how we ended up with Pa Nub. I think the packers thought he was the BPA on their board at the time he was selected.
Of course, I could be mistaken and they thought QB was a position of need.
@Packmeister posted:I'll drink to that! 🥃
I can't tell if the glass is half empty or half full... lol
There's always room for more!
(To be honest, I usually drink vodka, since it fits my budget better.)
@Chongo posted:Rashan Gary was injured. Shoulder was so bad there was a question whether or not he'd need season-ending surgery.
People don't remember when drafting an injured player works out.
True, but that's because the list behind him of players not working out is longer. It's a crap shoot as it is, why start with a negative factor right off the bat? Especially for a guy that relies on speed and shiftiness, an ACL injury could leave him never at 100%. If he fell to the third or fourth round, maybe take a shot, but certainly not in the first two rounds. Of course I'll eat my words if he becomes another Justin Jefferson, but I'd rather another team take that chance in the first two rounds. Besides, we need production immediately from our first two rounds.
@Goalline posted:As a rookie, playing with Rodgers with no training camp? Things will harken back to his O$U days.
Exactly, and I'll take that bet about playing by mid season.
@The Grinder posted:Why not worry about a safety next year ? We are set at least this year. A rookie safety next year would not be horrible if we even do lose Amos or Savage. Maybe if a good was there later in the draft. IMHO
If we get a Safety this year, he will have a full year in Joe Barry's defense, when the Packers make their decisions regarding Amos and Savage, next off season. Getting a guy into rhythm in our defense now, makes more sense, to me, than getting a Safety next off season and only having a short time to get him ready to play. Now he can learn from Amos and Savage. GO PACK, GO!!!
@Fedya posted:There's always room for more!
(To be honest, I usually drink vodka, since it fits my budget better.)
I'll drink whatever someone offers, but I buy bourbon and tequila.