@Harry Manback posted:This. I haven't looked at LB's a whole lot for this year's draft, or heard much about outstanding LB's. Any worth spending a first or second round pick on?
https://www.nflmockdraftdataba...ers/2022/nakobe-dean At #28. A lot of draftnicks have him going to GB. I could see him starting at Will.
@YooperPackfan posted:No, then he’ll start studying the undrafted free agents and camp fodder and posting articles from beat writers making players out to be the next all pros
And then it's summer vacation, and then the next season starts, so...
@PackerPatrick posted:https://www.nflmockdraftdataba...ers/2022/nakobe-dean At #28. A lot of draftnicks have him going to GB. I could see him starting at Will.
Looks like he really started to take off last year, which means he's ascending, which is good. Pretty sure he'd be an upgrade over Barnes.
@Harry Manback posted:This. I haven't looked at LB's a whole lot for this year's draft, or heard much about outstanding LB's. Any worth spending a first or second round pick on?
I've read some good thing about Lloyd and Dean in R1.
I'm sure the Badger fans can chime in about Chenal in what, R3??
@Harry Manback posted:Looks like he really started to take off last year, which means he's ascending, which is good. Pretty sure he'd be an upgrade over Barnes.
He is a holy terror, but he is small and was covered up by some monsters up front. Amazingly, he takes on blockers better than every MLB in this draft so, his size may not be an issue.
Sam Mills and Zach Thomas agree with your assessment Goalstripe!
@PackLandVA posted:Sam Mills and Zach Thomas agree with your assessment Goalstripe!
Were they Packers? No! No one cares. Bart Starr on the other hand?
Packers are not taking an LB in R1-R3...they don't value the position that much to spend the draft capital. OL, DL, DB, QB and in this year specifically WR are their premium positions. Campbell and any other scrub suits them just fine.
My mock for the day... no playmakers on the board at 22, so I went with value/need instead of trading down, and nabbed Johnson. I think he's going to be a lot like Elgatron, and able to play any position. I traded down with the Lions from 28, and still got my favorite safety. I could be wrong, but I think he'll be a good one. I swapped a 4th rounder for a 3rd rounder, and that allowed me to draft Tindall. 3 Georgia players between the secondary and the linebacking corps...is that a good thing or a bad thing? I'm betting that could be a good thing.
Grabbed two good receivers...could have stood pat at 28 and drafted Pickens.
Logan Hall at 59 seems like a good pick, as well. There's your hybrid 3-4 DE/Edge player.
Bellinger in the 4th, a developmental corner in the 5th, and some depth in the 7th.
@Packmeister posted:If that ends up being the case, I would hope we find a willing trade partner, trade down, and add an additional pick, or two. That would provide a lot of flexibility in this draft to move around and select the players the team wants.
Otherwise, they'll need to see that coming and move up for someone they do want to draft.
Possibly, but do you really want to give up a top talent in Davante Adams, having two first-round picks and not come away with a player with a first-round grade?
My guess is the Jets would come calling in that scenario with #35 and #69. which I'd take, but it would be tough.
@Harry Manback posted:This. I haven't looked at LB's a whole lot for this year's draft, or heard much about outstanding LB's. Any worth spending a first or second round pick on?
Yeah, but seems less like the Packers' style than a receiver in the first. I'd probably hope for Beavers, Chenal, Domann, or Anderson if there's a possibility at #92 or one of the 4s as that seems about as high a pick as they'd spend on an inside linebacker.
Beavers is all-around good, Chenal's a better thumper, Domann is a smaller missile who can also cover, Anderson is a raw freak.
My guess is Lloyd, Dean and Harris go earlier, Muma, Asamoah and Clark to 4-3 teams, Walker somewhere in there too and Tindall is a wildcard.
@Goalline posted:Were they Packers? No! No one cares. Bart Starr on the other hand?
Aha! But they were LBs, smallish in stature comparably.
@Herschel posted:Possibly, but do you really want to give up a top talent in Davante Adams, having two first-round picks and not come away with a player with a first-round grade?
My guess is the Jets would come calling in that scenario with #35 and #69. which I'd take, but it would be tough.
I know...it's more likely we trade up in the 1st. I just don't know who it would be for...would Jameson Williams be worth it?
Who else can you see us trading up to get?
Packaging 22 and 28 together could conceivably get us up to #7, maybe #6.
A theoretical trade up to 10 with the Jets could maybe net us their 3rd round pick in return...we'd then have #10, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, and 2 4ths... I could live with that, for sure, assuming we land our guy at #10. That gets us ahead of the Vikings at #12.
Kadarius Toney May Be Available
Looks like the Giants may want to unload last year's 1st Rounder. What's the most you'd give up as far as a draft pick(s)? A 3rd? 4th and 6th? Nothing?
As I've now read 129 mock drafts, it made me wonder how our draft/offseason would have looked if AR had been traded. We would definitely not be in the "win now" mode.
A 5th for Toney. Trading a first rounder the year after he was drafted is a massive red flag. There has to be some serious issues with Toney to give up on him after just a season, especially when he showed some flash on the field.
I really don't want to see Gute trade any of our first 4 picks to move up. Use our 3rd or 4ths but not those first 4. This is a chance for this team to really restock and get some cheap, difference makers in the door. And Gute's been damn good in the first two rounds. This draft seems to be deep from late first to early 3rd.
No to Toney. Read about his first season here.
No thanks on Toney...whining diva.
Another OT visits.
One writer's list of first rounders for the Pack.
What would it take to move up and get Jordan Davis?
Not sure but that guy looks like he's going to control the line of scrimmage for 8-10 years. I like the fatty from UCONN too in that role.
I'd rather GB trade back and pick up extra R2 and R3 picks than move up though.
I'm not sure they would.
@Pakrz posted:Not sure but that guy looks like he's going to control the line of scrimmage for 8-10 years. I like the fatty from UCONN too in that role.
I'd rather GB trade back and pick up extra R2 and R3 picks than move up though.
I just keep reading that this draft is super deep in the second and third rounds. I was doing mocks through thedraftnetwork.com and was getting Olave/Karlaftis at #22, Mafe/Hill/Burks at #28, Jones/Watson/Pickens at #53, McBride/Hall at #59, and Bonitto/Williams at #92. Then I go to PFF.com and their mock database is way different, with most of those guys going way higher. Then I see other mocks that are totally different. I think there is little consensus on who is the #10-#90 prospects. So, get as many of those guys as possible. Stay or trade back and stockpile some cheap talent.
Pickens at 53 would be a Dream From Heaven.
As many have noted, the value of players have been all over the place this draft. Injuries, Covid and extra eligibility have made this draft pure guesswork. After the Adams trade and the money paid out for veteran players I assumed that GB would spend two firsts on WR. But other teams are looking for WR’s too and they may be overrated this draft. The ones that I backed will be long gone. I am now leaning more towards BPA for the first round and look for WR potential in the second round on down. Please ignore any of my previous posts in which I might have been denigrating other players that you guys have put forward. ;-)
Sister Christian Kirk making 18 mil per year and never cracking 1k receiving - DIVA WR's all looking for 23-30 million range.
This will make teams look harder at bargain priced team control drafted WR.
@Pakrz posted:Not sure but that guy looks like he's going to control the line of scrimmage for 8-10 years. I like the fatty from UCONN too in that role.
I'd rather GB trade back and pick up extra R2 and R3 picks than move up though.
Fatty McChubbins is probably the best interior pass rusher in the draft...I hope he's there at 22 and the Packers take him.
If he wasn't on the worst team in CFB, he'd probably be a top 10 pick.
Adding him to the DL gives Berry a lot of flexibility with KC, and will allow KC to get single-teamed cuz Chubbsy-Ubbsy will draw double-teams.
Look how athletic this fucker is at 325...
@Iowacheese posted:Sister Christian Kirk making 18 mil per year and never cracking 1k receiving - DIVA WR's all looking for 23-30 million range.
This will make teams look harder at bargain priced team control drafted WR.
That also brings up the matter of using a 1st round pick on a WR to have the 5th year option. In that regard, trading up to get the (assuming WR here) guy they want would make sense.
The thing that's bothering me is that contracts don't seem to matter much. Look at Deebo and what he's doing to the 'Niners...he's had one very good year.
He-he... as he said with a smug grin on his face... 😊 I only mean that as it pertains to his relationship to his team...it tore my guts out watching them beat us at Lambeau.
That may force their hand to deal Jimmy G just to keep Deebo... keep in mind I live in Norcal and have a front row seat on this one...Michael Irvin was on local radio and said they are no where near the same offense without Deebo.
@Chongo posted:
I hope he's there at 22 and the Packers take him.
Adding him to the DL gives Berry a lot of flexibility with KC, and will allow KC to get single-teamed cuz Chubbsy-Ubbsy will draw double-teams.
I'd have no problem with that if the team feels he's worth the pick...they may be able to get him at 28.
Alec Pierce isn’t getting past the Packers at pick number 53, is he? Big (Johnny Z nightmare ), fast and smart. And he blocks too.
Pierce's complexion will also be a fan favorite in Wisconsin.
Next week is the time of year when all the players Packers fans have been mocking over 11 picks are gone in the first three rounds and we end up with one of them and a sad face.
@Chongo posted:Fatty McChubbins is probably the best interior pass rusher in the draft...I hope he's there at 22 and the Packers take him.
If he wasn't on the worst team in CFB, he'd probably be a top 10 pick.
Adding him to the DL gives Berry a lot of flexibility with KC, and will allow KC to get single-teamed cuz Chubbsy-Ubbsy will draw double-teams.
Look how athletic this fucker is at 325...
Looking at those poor centers in that clip made me glad we drafted Myers whom I thought was too big to play center at the time. It also reminded me of the value of big guys on both sides of the line in this draft.
I suspect that the Packers (like the Chiefs) will go for value and BPA if whom they want early is gone at 28. https://profootballtalk.nbcspo...ilable-at-29-and-30/
A safety prospect visits.
@Packmeister posted:I know...it's more likely we trade up in the 1st. I just don't know who it would be for...would Jameson Williams be worth it?
Who else can you see us trading up to get?
Packaging 22 and 28 together could conceivably get us up to #7, maybe #6.
A theoretical trade up to 10 with the Jets could maybe net us their 3rd round pick in return...we'd then have #10, 2 2nds, 2 3rds, and 2 4ths... I could live with that, for sure, assuming we land our guy at #10. That gets us ahead of the Vikings at #12.
I don't think moving way up is really worth it, TBH. There just aren't a bunch of super studs to make it worthwhile.
If we're dreaming big, ran a PFN sim where both the Jets and Giants came calling.
35. OLB Mafe, 36. DL Jones, 53. WR Pierce, 59. DB Pitre, 67. OLB Bonitto, 69. ILB Chenal, 92. WR Ezukanma, 132. S. JT Woods, 140. TE Jelani Woods, 171. OT Mitchell, 228. OT Van Demark, 249. CB Steele, 258. TE Deese Jr.
Spam with solid guys and hope a couple really pop out.
13 picks is about max occupancy but it sure wouldn't hurt to get 2 OLBs, 2 WRs, 2 S (including slot safety), 2 OT, 2 TE churning the heck out of the bottom of the roster and trying to find core special teamers
@YATittle posted:One writer's list of first rounders for the Pack.
With four picks on the first two rounds, it’s apparent if Gutey does his job, we’ll get some good players.
Do hope those late round picks provide some ace special teamers.
@YATittle posted:Do hope those late round picks provide some ace special teamers.
I'd settle for competent special teamers at this point.
