@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:Best player in college football this year. Can't see him sliding past our 2nd pick
I misread that at first as "Beta player in college football".
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:Best player in college football this year. Can't see him sliding past our 2nd pick
Cracker please.
I wanted Mario Williams or D'Brick more, of course, but would have preferred Davis, Ngata or De'Angelo Williams to Hawk.
gutey almost has to pull a page out of the kevin costner book and write it down, "no matter what, draft a LT in the first"
Jim Harbaugh???? The Cheater? You have got to be kidding!
@YooperPackfan posted:I wanted Vernon Davis 🙄😒
Before the draft, Davis made it clear that he did not want to play in GB.
@packerboi posted:IF they stick with Love, in no specific order:
Left Tackle.
Center.
Safety.
RB.
CB.
*QB: Gute needs to take a QB somewhere in the draft. Preferably in the 1st 3 rounds. At the very least, bring in decent competition and insurance against injury.
I think Gute should take a page out of Wolf's draft playbook and always take a QB somewhere in your draft. Yes for injury insurance and maybe you get a Hasselbeck situation where you can get decent picks from someone in a trade.
I would say OL would be number one to me and if not CB/Safety will need some attention as well.
@Boris posted:Made my point for me.
Certain positions are premium positions. Linebacker is not one of them.
Whom would you have taken at #5??
Just a plethora of HoF talent
I still can’t believe the Raiders and Bills both took shortstops.
@justanotherpackerfan posted:I still can’t believe the Raiders and Bills both took shortstops.
Shortshop are usually the best Al there on the team, so it makes sense.
Get those PTO requests in kids!
Packers make an announcement about an announcement:
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) November 2, 2023
They'll announce on Monday the dates for the 2025 NFL Draft in Green Bay. Mark Murphy will speak at the announcement.
It's most likely April 24-26 in 2025
Could be 17-19 but it'll be one of the 2
Get those hotels built Green Bay and Ashwaubenon - Suamico, get the restaurants ready.
LMAO.....gonna be another shit show up there. It was awful in Vegas
Butter Burger specials! Get em whilst the're greasy!
@justanotherpackerfan posted:I still can’t believe the Raiders and Bills both took shortstops.
Vernon Davis would have been a good pick, or Haloti Ngata.
@Boris posted:It's most likely April 24-26 in 2025
Could be 17-19 but it'll be one of the 2
Get those hotels built Green Bay and Ashwaubenon - Suamico, get the restaurants ready.
LMAO.....gonna be another shit show up there. It was awful in Vegas
The thing I'm going to love the most is the national guys getting to spend almost a week staying at the Paper Valley Hotel in Appleton. Maybe they can ask Ryan Longwell for his top 10 dining destinations in the Fox River Valley?
@Boris posted:It's most likely April 24-26 in 2025
Could be 17-19 but it'll be one of the 2
Get those hotels built Green Bay and Ashwaubenon - Suamico, get the restaurants ready.
LMAO.....gonna be another shit show up there. It was awful in Vegas
They’re saying the overflow will reach all the way up by me
I’m in Milwaukee. I’m sure there will be no room at the Inn’s down here either
@packerboi posted:IF they stick with Love, in no specific order:
Left Tackle.
Center.
Safety.
RB.
CB.
*QB: Gute needs to take a QB somewhere in the draft. Preferably in the 1st 3 rounds. At the very least, bring in decent competition and insurance against injury.
This is the route I'd go as well. They're not sexy pics, but good O-linemen are the safest bet to turn out well in the first round. I think Wolf picking a QB in every draft somewhere was a great idea and turned out well for us. If we don't need one, and it's a good prospect, teams will overpay to get one from us.
@pkr_north posted:no harbaugh, don't you guys remember his douchery when he was with the 49ers? no thanks.
problem is that if we have gutey in charge, he will pass on the obvious picks and pick based on being the smartest guy in the room, which is ras based and not football ready...project in 4 years; maybe; just in time to have to re-sign them. it's clear to me that strategy in the first round is not the greatest. heck even the second, although he has hit on a few 2nd rounders. I look at first round misses and you just can't have that. if gutey is here, i have no faith he will pick the best prospect by consensus, because he usually doesn't. he's the smartest guy...it's beyond me. everything is a project with that guy, today's NFL doesn't have time for that, if you rely on the draft, they better be ready to play with upside. the old school TT way of doing it is different today.
I prefer Wolf's strategy in drafts. Concentrate mostly on the big schools and make your picks based on production, not measurables.
There are no tickets to this thing, right Boris? If I'm stuck out in the parking lot grilling brats while the Packers are on the clock it'll be just like the television cutting to commercial.
@Boris posted:It's most likely April 24-26 in 2025
Could be 17-19 but it'll be one of the 2
Get those hotels built Green Bay and Ashwaubenon - Suamico, get the restaurants ready.
LMAO.....gonna be another shit show up there. It was awful in Vegas
Never going to another draft again.
I would have went to the draft when it was under the old format in NYC and strictly about football. Now it's an extended three ring traveling circus that's pretty much ruined my love for the draft.
You win Super Bowls based on having HOF-level players. Favre/White/Butler or Rodgers/Woodson.
For all the discussion about draft prowess, Ron Wolf didn't draft a single player in Green Bay that made the Hall of Fame. In fact, no one he drafted as a Packer would ever be in the discussion, except for (under different circumstances) Darren Sharper. Wolf's next best pick was probably Donald Driver.
Ted Thompson drafted one sure HOFer (Rodgers). The only other one with a realistic shot is Davante Adams.
Surprisingly, in the Super Bowl era (and actually in the last 60 drafts starting in 1964), the Packers have drafted two players that have made the HOF. If you assume Rodgers is a first ballot no-doubt choice, then its still just 3 (Lofton-1978, Butler-1990, and Rodgers-2005). Maybe Adams makes it 4, but I'm not sure he's done enough to get in yet.
Vince Lombardi only drafted two HOFers (Adderly-1961 and Dave Robinson-1963) and didn't draft a single offensive player who went to HOF.
Verne Llewellyn was the GM from 1954-1958 and drafted 7 HOFers - Ringo, Starr, Gregg, Hornung, Nitschke, Kramer, and Taylor.
It's interesting that the Packers have only drafted 2 players (plus Rodgers) in the last 60 years that made or are guaranteed to make the HOF. It's lower than almost all other franchises.
The Bears have 8 in the same time frame (60 years). The Lions have 5 (plus Suh is likely). The Vikings have 6 (plus Peterson and Kevin Williams). The Cowboys have drafted 10 (plus Witten and Zach Martin). The Niners have 7. The Steelers have 13 (plus Big Ben and TJ Watt).
I wonder how many times we've had a pick in the top 16 compared to the other teams mentioned? Did some research a couple of years ago and found that there are more First Round draft choices in the HOF than all the other rounds, and players not drafted, combined. Furthermore, something like 75% of those HOF First Rounders were drafted in the top 16.
@FLPACKER posted:I wonder how many times we've had a pick in the top 16 compared to the other teams mentioned? Did some research a couple of years ago and found that there are more First Round draft choices in the HOF than all the other rounds, and players not drafted, combined. Furthermore, something like 75% of those HOF First Rounders were drafted in the top 16.
It's something like 35 times they've picked in the top 16 in the last 60 years.
https://www.pro-football-refer.../teams/gnb/draft.htm
They've drafted in the top 17 times and gotten one HOFer in the last 60 years (Lofton at #6 overall). To be fair, Sharpe was #7 overall and probably should be in the HOF.
@MichiganPacker posted:Vince Lombardi only drafted two HOFers (Adderly-1961 and Dave Robinson-1963) and didn't draft a single offensive player who went to HOF.
Verne Llewellyn was the GM from 1954-1958 and drafted 7 HOFers - Ringo, Starr, Gregg, Hornung, Nitschke, Kramer, and Taylor.
Lewellyn may have been the GM but Jack Vainisi, player personnel director was the brains recommending all the guys the Packers drafted. He recommended Starr based on his conversations with Johnny Dee, an Alabama coach. He even convinced his new bride to let him go and scout and talk to players while on his honeymoon. He was also the man who recommended Lombardi to Green Bay President Dominic Olejniczak and called Lombardi after talking to Halas, Paul Brown and Rozelle. He died in 1960 before he could see all his players win their 1st Championship. He deserves way more credit for the '60s Packer dynasty than he gets.
Lots of GMs draft HoFers. Only a few build championship teams.
@MichiganPacker posted:You win Super Bowls based on having HOF-level players. Favre/White/Butler or Rodgers/Woodson.
For all the discussion about draft prowess, Ron Wolf didn't draft a single player in Green Bay that made the Hall of Fame. In fact, no one he drafted as a Packer would ever be in the discussion, except for (under different circumstances) Darren Sharper. Wolf's next best pick was probably Donald Driver.
Ted Thompson drafted one sure HOFer (Rodgers). The only other one with a realistic shot is Davante Adams.
Surprisingly, in the Super Bowl era (and actually in the last 60 drafts starting in 1964), the Packers have drafted two players that have made the HOF. If you assume Rodgers is a first ballot no-doubt choice, then its still just 3 (Lofton-1978, Butler-1990, and Rodgers-2005). Maybe Adams makes it 4, but I'm not sure he's done enough to get in yet.
Vince Lombardi only drafted two HOFers (Adderly-1961 and Dave Robinson-1963) and didn't draft a single offensive player who went to HOF.
Verne Llewellyn was the GM from 1954-1958 and drafted 7 HOFers - Ringo, Starr, Gregg, Hornung, Nitschke, Kramer, and Taylor.
It's interesting that the Packers have only drafted 2 players (plus Rodgers) in the last 60 years that made or are guaranteed to make the HOF. It's lower than almost all other franchises.
The Bears have 8 in the same time frame (60 years). The Lions have 5 (plus Suh is likely). The Vikings have 6 (plus Peterson and Kevin Williams). The Cowboys have drafted 10 (plus Witten and Zach Martin). The Niners have 7. The Steelers have 13 (plus Big Ben and TJ Watt).
This is really well done and a really interesting read. People pay for less valuable information.
@packerboi posted:Get those PTO requests in kids!
Packers make an announcement about an announcement:
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) November 2, 2023
They'll announce on Monday the dates for the 2025 NFL Draft in Green Bay. Mark Murphy will speak at the announcement.
I hear he is leasing 100 new sleds to be ready for the influx of sledders coming to the Draft. He is also acquiring a snow making machine, from the recently closed Telemark Ski Lodge, in case the snow melts, on the hill. Getting the snow making machine was cheaper than adding wheels to all the sleds. Always thinking, that guy is!
@Shadow posted:There are no tickets to this thing, right Boris? If I'm stuck out in the parking lot grilling brats while the Packers are on the clock it'll be just like the television cutting to commercial.
It's a "free" event. Drinks and food are not cheap. But yeah you don't need to purchase a ticket for a seat. If they started charging for tickets, I highly doubt anyone would go. I know I wouldn't.
I miss NY and Radio City Music Hall. 4,000 people. It was perfect. Wish it was there again.
Good game developing between USC/Wash. Both QBs moving the needle.
Caleb Williams looking like 2010 AR.
@Boris posted:It's a "free" event. Drinks and food are not cheap. But yeah you don't need to purchase a ticket for a seat. If they started charging for tickets, I highly doubt anyone would go. I know I wouldn't.
I miss NY and Radio City Music Hall. 4,000 people. It was perfect. Wish it was there again.
I just miss the city. Like a limb.
RCMH is a bucket list venue. Saw Kings if Leon there in 2007. They sucked but the space was worth it. Also saw the Christmas spectacular capped off by the rockettes. I fell asleep but woke up just in time to see the high stepping.
This QB class looks very strong, even past Williams and Maye. Penix, Sanders, Nix, McCarthy and Ewers probably all have fans rating them highly, and guys like Jaden Daniels, Phil Jurkovec and Jordan Travis might have some high upside with time to rework some mechanics. Spencer Rattler is intriguing, as well.
That’s 11 names…how many will be difference makers on Sundays? Maybe 2 or 3?
Maybe.
Tanks battling today
Rypien V Love.
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@Herschel posted:This QB class looks very strong, even past Williams and Maye. Penix, Sanders, Nix, McCarthy and Ewers probably all have fans rating them highly, and guys like Jaden Daniels, Phil Jurkovec and Jordan Travis might have some high upside with time to rework some mechanics. Spencer Rattler is intriguing, as well.
Ummmm you forgot Deacon Hill