Bak isn’t returning. They cut him loose and pick up 20M.
@Tschmack posted:The challenge for GB is Chicago, New England, and the Giants all need a QB. The good news is GB plays two of those three teams down the stretch so a loss to both might be a big difference in a top 10 pick v a top 5 pick.
Still not the safest bet unless GB ends up at #3. If either of CHI's 2 RD01 picks ends up ahead of GB, unless they go QB, they'll auction that pick off to the highest bidder. Which would probably be NE or NYG or someone else entirely. Odds are looking more like both of CHI's picks will be higher than GB, which makes it even less likely GB is in position for one of the top two QB's. GB would have to lose out and probably get some "help".
I can't see GB taking Bowers either. Last year's TE haul plus the need for LT probably seals it.
One other position that worries me is safety, and looking at this draft class I don't see anyone besides Kinchens that interests me. You guys have anyone you like on your board at safety? Where would you take them in the draft?
Pff has 2 other safeties, in addition to Kitchens in their top 50 ....Bullock from USC and Nubin from Minnesota. Bullock is a true Free Safety with superior athletic skills, while Nubin can both Free and Strong safety , not as athletic as Bullock, but has great anticipation.
Andrew Mukuba from Clemson is another guy I like. He'll probably get comparisons to Darnell Savage because he's lightning fast and the "6 feet tall " he's listed at is rather generous, but he's more aggressive, more instinctive and a better tackler than Savage ever was.
I have to admit, my #3 QB is Bo Nix. He's lighting up (an admittedly not very good) AZ State today, but he's done it all season.
I think the Bears would love to draft a QB and Harrison both within the top three picks and do a Sam Darnold with Fields. I think I read the Bears have won 6 games in 3 years with Fields.
@PackerBackerDPM posted:FSU QB just broke his ankle
Dang, that's tough. He's another "COVID QB" so this is it.
Watching OT from Oregon St. , he can move people in the run game, but is playing RT. I've seen him ranked in the top 15 picks.
@PackerRick posted:I think the Bears would love to draft a QB and Harrison both within the top three picks and do a Sam Darnold with Fields. I think I read the Bears have won 6 games in 3 years with Fields.
They would transform their offense if they could get them both. The kind of draft that turns the tables for years.
@FLPACKER posted:Watching OT from Oregon St. , he can move people in the run game, but is playing RT. I've seen him ranked in the top 15 picks.
Fuaga is potentially a monster at RT or OG, and I kind of like Joshua Gray at LT. To me he's a Clifton/Bak type who a lot of people project inside because he's not that tall, but he's just a very sound OT who may have the foot speed to get the job done well.
@lovepack posted:They would transform their offense if they could get them both. The kind of draft that turns the tables for years.
Yeah well it’s the Bears so…
@Tschmack posted:Caleb Williams a bust?
Have you actually watched him play? Like at all?
Don’t confuse a shitty USC defense into translating he’s not very good. He’s literally a one man band.
Now, if Chicago takes him all bets are off.
Yes, I’ve watched Utah own his ass for a couple seasons now.
@PackerBackerDPM posted:FSU QB just broke his ankle
I saw that on the only replay they showed. Rag dolled his foot. Eek.
@BrainDed posted:Yes, I’ve watched Utah own his ass for a couple seasons now.
Utah won, how were his individual stats.?
its the Skip Bayless Aaron rodgers mathematics. Rodgers leads the team in the 4th quarter to a lead or tie or lead and the defense gives it up for a loss but Rodgers is the one is sucked.
@PackerBackerDPM posted:FSU QB just broke his ankle
Bummer... I had him on my list as a possible pick for the Packers.
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So likely too low for Fashanu, Alt and maybe even Latham.
Listening to Bukowski after the game. Interesting take on Bak. Said that if he wanted to come back to GB, a restructured deal would cost us less in cap hit than cutting him. I'd be all for this. His knee is structurally sound, he proved that by the way he played this year. If they can take care of the problem of constant fluid accumulating he can still play at a high level. Draft a tackle, if he is good enough, play him at RT and move Tom inside to replace either Runyan or Myers. We instantly get better at two positions.
Why would Bak take a paycut from the Packers. He and we all know if the Packers don't pay him the full contract amount the Jets will pay way more than the Packers will. He's gone already, just like Brandon Woodruff.
I’m all for a restructure of his contract. He gets more money upfront and less of a cap hit next year.
A restructure doesn't mean it's a paycut. They could put his current salary into upfront bonus money so he gets the same money, they just spread the cap hit out over the life of the new contract. It's a win for both sides.
@PackerRick posted:A restructure doesn't mean it's a paycut. They could put his current salary into upfront bonus money so he gets the same money, they just spread the cap hit out over the life of the new contract. It's a win for both sides.
Exactly
And if the knee flairs up again in2024 week 2 and he goes back on IR how is that a win for the Packers? Let him be somebody else's problem.
As I said in my previous post ... you draft his replacement this year and play him at RT, have Tom replace either Runyan or Myers. If Bak's knee doesn't hold up you can put the draft choice at LT and move Tom back to RT.
There is absolutely no way that Bak comes back nor should he. His cap number is huge, and the drama and shenanigans and injury concerns aren’t worth it. He’s an all time Packers great, but the NFL still stands for not for long so they need to think long and hard about drafting a LT or signing a cheaper version in FA.
Jets in 2024!
And how is his knee going to hold up? I mean, it’s been 2 years and it hasn’t held up. What’s going to change?
What in the god awful fuck is going on.
I find myself agreeing with Tschmalphabet
Quite often the past few weeks.
I’m trying to cut back on my day drinking. Things are becoming so much more clear.
All I know is Christian Watson isn’t Randy Moss, Caleb Williams is pretty fucking good (playing for a BAD U$C team), and BK really hates T.E.A.M. monikers.
@Herschel posted:So likely too low for Fashanu, Alt and maybe even Latham.
At #10, they could still grab some Kool_Aid, some Odunze, some Chops, Wiggins, or Fuaga. Fuaga would look great on the right side of the O-Line.
@ammo posted:And if the knee flairs up again in2024 week 2 and he goes back on IR how is that a win for the Packers? Let him be somebody else's problem.
I agree...time to move on.
@Packmeister posted:At #10, they could still grab some Kool_Aid, some Odunze, some Chops, Wiggins, or Fuaga. Fuaga would look great on the right side of the O-Line.
If they move Tom to Center, that might be a move, as 10 is awfully highfor an OG.
While I'm hoping for an offensive core player, I doubt they go WR there, tbh, and were I putting money on it, I think Gutekunst really wants Johnny Wilson from Florida State: 6'6", 235# and projected to run the 40 in the 4.4 range, though his hands may be more reliable than Gutey prefers.
The guy they might "reach" for is Kingsley Suamatia from BYU. He's a pretty freakish athlete for even a LT prospect.
@Iowacheese posted:What in the god awful fuck is going on.
I find myself agreeing with Tschmalphabet
Quite often the past few weeks.
@Herschel posted:If they move Tom to Center, that might be a move, as 10 is awfully highfor an OG.
The guy they might "reach" for is Kingsley Suamatia from BYU. He's a pretty freakish athlete for even a LT prospect.
I was thinking primarily at RT, which would up his value some. Maybe even trade down and still get him. Who knows?
