I believe Gutey is going to move up to draft the OL or Defensive back he wants. Mims or Mitchell is the pick if he moves up, Barton if he stays at 25
ESPN content producer @PaulHembo calculated the percentage of 1st-round picks that “hit” or “miss,” based upon whether that player signed a second contract with the team that drafted them.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 24, 2024
The data encompasses the 20 drafts spanning 2000-2019. Here are the positional hit rates: pic.twitter.com/mSannLz6OC
@ammo posted:This is why I don't believe in PFF.
Power rankings are about as useful as my ex wife. Pretty much good for nothing.
I am honestly starting to believe that it is a contractual requirement for anyone covering the NFL has to somehow slobber all over Dallas. Its definitely mandatory on ESPN.
@The Heckler posted:Not yet and it can't come soon enough. But, I am already preparing for the commercial break when the Packers pick.
They even broke for commercials or just ended the show because they ran out of time on XM 88 during their mock drafts. Jim Miller is babbling on about the Cowboys pick, " Well Pat, looks like we're out of time!"
Here's another interesting mock.
Packers pre-draft visits...
https://youtu.be/MZs5oub5sis?si=zFfuICrwOb0z2ncE
WesHod says.....12 picks. Trading down
Cooper DeJean (S/CB) - No Matter What
— Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap 💰 (@KenIngalls) April 24, 2024
It makes too much sense for the Packers:
📅Age 21
✅Need Position
🔁Versatility
🏈Playmaker
🥇1st Team All American
⚡️Elite Athlete
🏫Power 5 School
❌No Top 30 Visit (Gute trend)
💰Priority Free Agent Signed at Position (Gute trend) pic.twitter.com/vAOYTw5C5U
Kevin Costner approves.
To summarize my last 5 phone calls- everyone is moving up for an OT.
— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks)April 24, 2024
If everything goes wrong.
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...endorf-mock-draft-11
(Don't worry, it won't)
I'll be pretty pissed if they draft a Safety in the first round. Trade down!
I had a dream. Gutey traded away the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd picks, ending up with 33 total picks including 8 straight picks. They got tired of saying Green Bay is on the clock and a commercial fest broke out.
@The Heckler posted:Power rankings are about as useful as my ex wife. Pretty much good for nothing.
I am honestly starting to believe that it is a contractual requirement for anyone covering the NFL has to somehow slobber all over Dallas. Its definitely mandatory on ESPN.
Or the Chiefs.
@Boris posted:If everything goes wrong.
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...endorf-mock-draft-11
(Don't worry, it won't)
I'll be pretty pissed if they draft a Safety in the first round. Trade down!
The only safety I'm OK with them taking in R1 is DeJean...
@Chongo posted:The only safety I'm OK with them taking in R1 is DeJean...
Dejean is a corner who is capable of playing safety. But he rarely does because IA plays an almost exclusive zone. IA coaches are smart; they know they can't recruit the 5* corners ... those guys go to the SEC or to OSU, PSU, MI in the B10. So they go after (and get) the 3* and occasional 4* dbs ... still great athletes but not the elite. Also, the IA coaches know their 3* d-backs can't go one-on-one with the 5* receivers of OSU, PSU, MI. It's why IA plays tough, stop the run defense and play zone on the back end. It's great strategy because, talent wise, they can't hang with the big boys, but play good defense and even better special teams and they beat all but the big boys. The downside of that strategy is they have played only once or twice in the B10 championship game. Still, almost every season is a success.
@Floridarob posted:Meanwhile over in Vikings world some of their clowns are dismissing Jordan Love as nothing special. They just got "lucky" last year.
How else will they sleep at night?
@Floridarob posted:I believe Gutey is going to move up to draft the OL or Defensive back he wants. Mims or Mitchell is the pick if he moves up, Barton if he stays at 25
Gutey needs to check his ego at the door. His drafts are spectacular when he has lots of picks and quite a bit poorer when he has only a few picks. He is not alone among GMs.
I just hope he does not try to get too cute with picks this year based on the positive results from the past couple years. Stay true to the board and don't try to manufacture something based on a hunch that isn't there. If that made any sense?
@DurangoDoug posted:I just hope he does not try to get too cute with picks this year based on the positive results from the past couple years. Stay true to the board and don't try to manufacture something based on a hunch that isn't there. If that made any sense?
This is my fear, too.
@Badgeman posted:Dejean is a corner who is capable of playing safety. But he rarely does because IA plays an almost exclusive zone. IA coaches are smart; they know they can't recruit the 5* corners ... those guys go to the SEC or to OSU, PSU, MI in the B10. So they go after (and get) the 3* and occasional 4* dbs ... still great athletes but not the elite.
Good stuff Badgeman, thx
Here's an interesting write- up on DeJeans' numbers from his pro day vs combine CBs
" Let's look at the total combination: if you look at the total number of players at the 2024 combine that
- weighed 200 or more
- ran <= 4.43 in the 40
- jumped at least 38.5 in the vert
- jumped at least 10'4" in the broad jump
The list is 4 players. Isaac Guerendo, Xavier Legette, Adonai Mitchell, and Brian Thomas - 3 receivers and a RB. So exactly zero DBs at the combine put up the exact combo of explosiveness and size DeJean did."
Is that an elite athlete ? Probably, but we need more info
He didn't do the agility testing and that's super important for a DB - so we don't have the full picture. And the agility numbers are where people have the biggest concerns as far as playing CB. But the speed & explosion numbers are certainly in the realm of an elite athlete and combined with top end instincts can make for a successful transition to the NFL.
There is no denying DeJean's athleticism. One thing I didnt't mention earlier is the IA dbacks and linebackers are sure tacklers. Dejean will have no fear run blitzing off the corner to take on a running back or dealing with a receiver. With the state of tackling , or lack thereof, in todays NFL, Dejean will be a breath of fresh air.
If Gutey, MLF and Hafley think Coop is good enough to play in this defense at #25, that is good enough for me.
The kid just makes plays. That's worth a lot.
DeJean from Heaven
First 2 picks Coop’s. Make it Happen
@Chongo posted:The kid just makes plays. That's worth a lot.
It wasn’t a fair catch
Is the pick in yet? Does anybody know what time it is? Who ARE you people, and why are you on my device?
Beam me up, Scotty.
Sorry Jim, commercial break.
@DurangoDoug posted:I just hope he does not try to get too cute with picks this year based on the positive results from the past couple years. Stay true to the board and don't try to manufacture something based on a hunch that isn't there. If that made any sense?
To paraphrase, hopefully he doesn't get tired of completing the easy pass.
@D J posted:I had a dream. Gutey traded away the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd picks, ending up with 33 total picks including 8 straight picks. They got tired of saying Green Bay is on the clock and a commercial fest broke out.
If this turned out to be true then every team would be out of cap hell next year due to the radical increase of the salary cap due to the league revenue from all those extra commercials.
“Grey Poupon” Cooper is boom or bust IMO. I don’t see a middle ground where he is league average. Gute doesn’t shy away from these types. Gary and LVN.
@Badgeman posted:There is no denying DeJean's athleticism. One thing I didnt't mention earlier is the IA dbacks and linebackers are sure tacklers. Dejean will have no fear run blitzing off the corner to take on a running back or dealing with a receiver. With the state of tackling , or lack thereof, in todays NFL, Dejean will be a breath of fresh air.
A sure tackler? I am all in for a guy who can bring actual tackling to this defense.
I also think Gute moves up in the 1st round. I think he goes after a top OL or a top CB. Alt or Fuaga are the OTs and Barton is the OG/C I'd look for. Terrion Arnold and Quinyon Mitchell are the CBs worthy of a move up. Maybe DeJean. Maybe. How far up Gute goes, is all dependent on the amount of draft capital he is willing to spend.
@BrainDed posted:“Grey Poupon” Cooper is boom or bust IMO. I don’t see a middle ground where he is league average. Gute doesn’t shy away from these types. Gary and LVN.
I thought the same thing of Jabril Peppers coming into the league. Haven't checked lately but he seems to be a very average player in the NFL.
Prediction: Gute's first trade in the draft will be a "trade back" before he makes a "trade up". Which round, no idea.
@BrainDed posted:Gute doesn’t shy away from these types. Gary and LVN.
You can't hit a home run if you don't swing for the fences.
The Pats have yet to award the title of GM to Eliot Wolf, who is running point, and it has shifted to a more collaborative process overseen by Jonathan Kraft. Ownership is allowing the football decision-makers to make the calls while keeping open a constant line of communication.… pic.twitter.com/Qbl5KiZ306
— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) April 24, 2024
Patriots don't fully trust Eliot yet. "Collaborative effort" If they want to win again, you have to let him drive the Lamborghini.
How about an outside the box strategy? Intercept Deacon Hill in the transfer portal - not hard to intercept this guy, let's be honest.
Give him 1 to 1 1/2 seasons to bulk up a little and put him at Guard or Center. Could be Love's C for the next 12 seasons.
My last, final, ultimate, presumptive '24 mock... 
As expected, the blue-chippers were off the board, so I traded down and nabbed Morgan at #30. Rather than keep trading down and landing a crap ton of picks, I tried to find the best fits along the way, so PFF's grades are not very complimentary, but their grading system sucks, anyway...lol
I simply took the guys I would like to see on the team. I think I meant to draft Myles Cole (EDGE) at #169, but forgot... I already had drafted Carter for the D-Line.
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The Rams, who haven't picked in the first round since 2016, are calling to get into the top 10, per sources.
— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) April 25, 2024
@Boris posted:The Rams, who haven't picked in the first round since 2016, are calling to get into the top 10, per sources.
— Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) April 25, 2024
That's rather presumptuous of them. I'd give them the silent treatment for a few more hours.