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@DH13 posted:

While the human struggle part of it where you've got two masses of humanity trying to will the ball a couple feet or yards is appealing in its own right, there isn't really any strategy or skill to it.  This is where it loses me.  Football doesn't and has never simply boiled down to who is stronger or more massive.  It has always been a sport of skill and strategy and the tush push doesn't really have any of either.

The scrum is the least interesting part of rugby for me...that's how I feel about the TP.

Also from the above link:

Overview

The Packers finish 7th overall, with the team receiving strong scores for their food/dining program along with their dietician, weight room, and training room. Last year, they upgraded the players’ meeting room and added an underground parking facility. Although these areas are not formally captured in the Report Cards, it demonstrates the team’s commitment to improve the players’ daily experience.

The most common area the players feel is in need of improvement is the locker room. While the space is sufficient, players believe it should be renovated and upgraded.

When asked what the team currently does best, players praise the team culture which is reflected in strong ratings for head coach Matt LaFleur and President/CEO Mark Murphy.

@Chongo posted:

Not happening with his current contract...no one taking on that much cap.

I think his redoing a contract with a new team wouldn't be nearly as big an issue as teams being leery of his health and his attitude.

Ja/Packers would need to show that Alexander is healthy and Ja would need to sell that he's focused and bought into wherever he'd go.

The innerwebs keep speculating about a Joe Bosa for Jaire Alexander trade from the Bolts. Bosa has similar injury concerns, a high contract, and it seems the Bolts have soured on Bosa much like GB has with Alexander.

Not holding my breath that happens, but it's an AFC opponent and each team could have interest in moving on.

Edit: Chargers send Joey Bosa to Packers in depressing trade proposal

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@Chongo posted:

Not happening with his current contract...no one taking on that much cap.

Most decorated must mean most bandages.

@packerboi posted:

I think his redoing a contract with a new team wouldn't be nearly as big an issue as teams being leery of his health and his attitude.

Ja/Packers would need to show that Alexander is healthy and Ja would need to sell that he's focused and bought into wherever he'd go.

The innerwebs keep speculating about a Joe Bosa for Jaire Alexander trade from the Bolts. Bosa has similar injury concerns, a high contract, and it seems the Bolts have soured on Bosa much like GB has with Alexander.

Not holding my breath that happens, but it's an AFC opponent and each team could have interest in moving on.

Edit: Chargers send Joey Bosa to Packers in depressing trade proposal

Damn as much as like what Bosa has done in his career do you trade a CB with an injury history and a possible attitude problem for another player who has a similar if not worse injury track record and possible attitude problem?

I say they should do the best they can to fleece a desperate team like Jax to see what they can get at this point.

Listened to a lot of podcast opinions on the topic this morning. I think it was Rob Demovsky who polled different NFL execs and the compensation for Alexander ranged form a mid round (4th / 5th), to a late round, to nothing. So Hershal may be correct, a 4th rounder is probably best-case. As far as what we do at CB, Bukowski had some interesting observations. He thinks that although the Packers will address CB in Free Agency, it will not be a top line guy, and they will not use a top draft choice on the position either. He thinks resources will be maximized on getting an edge rusher first and then a WR.

@Boris posted:

If that's true, there's no way Metcalf is worth all that. He ain't Sterling Fucking Sharpe.

Don't worry though......let Gutey cook. He's a good negotiator.

Also.....trade Doubs? Ok ....not Wicks....NOT WICKS!! Why? Because not if....but WHEN he starts catching the ball, he's going to hit the next level. Y'all just watch

Let Gutey Cook? What are examples of well negotiated contracts? I'm not saying that it's never happened but I can't think of any off of the top of my head.

@13X posted:

Let Gutey Cook? What are examples of well negotiated contracts? I'm not saying that it's never happened but I can't think of any off of the top of my head.

Vets who got extended in GB over the past 2-3 years include Kenny Clark, Jordan Love, Rashan Gary, De'Vondre Campbell, Rasul Douglas, and Jaire Alexander.

Other than Love (hopefully), tough to argue that GB has gotten commensurate value out of any of these re-signings.

@SteveLuke posted:

Vets who got extended in GB over the past 2-3 years include Kenny Clark, Jordan Love, Rashan Gary, De'Vondre Campbell, Rasul Douglas, and Jaire Alexander.

Other than Love (hopefully), tough to argue that GB has gotten commensurate value out of any of these re-signings.

Yup. But Gutey is great. I would bet a lot of money that GB won’t win a title with him.

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