Plus, it's pretty clear TT can spot good WRs. Some team with an IDOT GM will likely cut someone that TT knows will be the next Jordy Nelson. Not problemo...
If it's going to happen, better it happen now and give the team a chance to game plan for life without him.
Adams gets promoted, Janis will get a few more opportunities until he can prove he's trustworthy (like Adams). TE will have to step up. This may save Quarless.
Yeah its better it happened now considering that he will most likely take up to 12 months to recover. He should be ready at the start of training camp next year.
Doctor-types on X4--any chance that the surgery he had earlier might have contributed to some imbalance? Maybe a leg was compensating for the other after his procedure? Could that have made him more susceptible to the ACL maybe?
Originally Posted by Dr._Bob:
I hope all of the injured players from that game file a class action lawsuit against the stadium owners for that crappy field.
This made me think that field condition may have a bigger impact on injuries than TC practices and preseason games.
While I don't think that every field can meet the same 'standard', surely there are some minimums that can be specified. If it takes a lawsuit to bring about change, so be it. And if the NFLPA was worth 2 chits, they would be taking the lead for seeking change. Their members have much more to lose than the league does.
I'm sure the NFL would have no problem financing new fields, and that's where they could be proactive. It should open another avenue for the league to maintain some 'control' over these fields, forcing certain protections from damage when other events are held.
Time for Lacy to take the step to the next level. 1100 yard seasons are nice, but it's time for a 1500+ type of season. This offense has averaged over 2000 yards rushing over the last couple years (huge improvement from where they were in 2010-2012, where they finished with ~1600 rushing yards every year), they have the capability to knock that up to the neighborhood of 2500 yards.
I don't think we'll see a big jump in Lacy's rushing numbers but he could make a significant jump in total yards. He is becoming a well rounded 3 down back. We saw a glimpse of his new weapons yesterday on the pass to him in the flat that got them a first down. Ahman Green was deadly on plays like that and we could see Lacy bringing the same effectiveness. He'll just be using his mass and momentum instead of speed.
Originally Posted by The GBP Rules:
FWIW, the last time Jordy missed any action was 2012. He missed 4 games that season. Rodgers threw for nearly 1000 yards, 8 TDs, 0 INTs and the Packers were 4-0.
Meanwhile, in 2013 when Rodgers was out, Jordy had 32 catches for 437 yards and 1 TD in 7 games. When Rodgers returned for the Bears game Jordy had 161 yards on 10 catches.
He will be missed, especially when it comes to the play action bombs and big 3rd down plays, but I don't think this will prevent them from winning the division or even a Super Bowl.
Excellent post GBP.
I think back to Sterling Sharpe. Closest player we've had to him since he retired is Devante Adams. If he can take over the #1 anything close to that we will be cooking with grease.
Originally Posted by Pack-Man:
Time for Lacy to take the step to the next level. 1100 yard seasons are nice, but it's time for a 1500+ type of season.
Lacy had 1138 yards during the regular season rushing and 427 yards receiving for a total of 1565 yards. In fact he set a Packer record in 2014 for consecutive games of 100+ yard from scrimmage with 8. And 4.6 yds/carry. To get more yards he will need more carries and that is a function of how the offense operates. What more do you want?
What are Abbrederis' chances of making the 53? And if they're as slim as I think they are, do they keep 5 or 6 WR?
Also, if James Jones is cut by the Giants does TT sign him?
Just some things to ponder.
Also, this bull**** about how some 7th rounder from Saginaw Valley State should be able to come into the NFL and blow people away needs to stop.
Not just Lacy but Starks. Not the receiving option 27 is but doesn't look like he's lost anything running it. I've thought he's been underused the past few seasons, time to ride both he and Eddie a bit more!
From Jordy...
Thank you to my family, the Packers, my friends, my partners and Packers fans everywhere for your thoughts and prayers. I appreciate your loyalty and support and am looking forward to helping the team however I can as we focus on an exciting season ahead of us.
Originally Posted by Maynard:
Doctor-types on X4--any chance that the surgery he had earlier might have contributed to some imbalance? Maybe a leg was compensating for the other after his procedure? Could that have made him more susceptible to the ACL maybe?
Very good Maynard.
Indeed, the hip was an issue:
When tackle Bryan Bulaga suffered a hip injury, a sports orthopedic surgeon told us it was possible there could be a knee or ankle injury to follow. She said saw it all the time with skiers. Sure enough Bulaga next went down with a torn ACL the very next training camp. Jordy Nelson had hip surgery in the offseason. Worst fears came true for #87 today vs Steelers.
Originally Posted by Fandame:
Just to add more fuel to the fire, Adrian Peterson doesn't play in preseason due to risk of injury.
Matthews doesn't play OR practice in preseason due to risk of #1
#puttingoutfireswithgasoline
Matthews doesn't play in the NFCC due to risk of injury
#NowTHATSAHotTake
just sick about all of this, I love me some white chocolate, damn shame.
Yeah, superbummer. Jordy was about enthusiastic as it gets as a player and an all around great guy. Insanely talented too.
Next man up.
Next man up.
Concerning Janis; I think our enfactuation with him, today is, he's the only WR on the roster with the size and speed to blow the top off of defenses. It maybe wishful thinking on our part, but I think he's shown enough for us to be slightly optimistic
How many of you had an irregular heartbeat when Rodgers got blindsided in the endzone on that safety on Sunday?
This sh*t has got to stop.
Good on AR for speaking up and saying they should "at least cut it (the preseason) in half." Kind of a jab at MM there too, but the truth is coaches just don't have the restraint to do it themselves, and you can't really blame them because the good ones strive for perfection and want to keep up with the Jones'. It's got to come from above.
I'll take cutting it to 2 preseason games. It's a start. And I'll take some false start penalties in the first 2 games over losing a guy like Nelson for the season in a heartbeat.
Well, I put part of that on McCarthy, for not seeing Rodgers could get killed with Barclay there, and part on Thompson, who failed to provide McCarthy with a legit #2 LT.
I mean, WTF? Felt same way Pistol. We are lucky we didn't lose Rodgers too.
I mean, WTF? Felt same way Pistol. We are lucky we didn't lose Rodgers too.
Tough to lose one of your key playmakers but in reality the only guy they can't afford to lose is Rodgers.
Someone else needs to step up. That won't be easy but if Adams takes another step forward and they get solid contributions from Dick Rodgers and Monty and Janis they should be just fine
Someone else needs to step up. That won't be easy but if Adams takes another step forward and they get solid contributions from Dick Rodgers and Monty and Janis they should be just fine
Next man up. I just doodled one scenario to make up Jordy's 90+ catches (albeit at lower YAC and YPC)
Cobb +10 from last year
Adams +30 from last year
Janis +20 from last year
Montgomery 20 catches
Lacy +20 catches from last year
Rodgers +20 catches from last year
Quarless = to last year
They are going to need to somehow continue to stretch the field to free up Cobb. I don't doubt Adams will step up, but they really need Janis and Montgomery to each make 1 or two plays every game.
I am just bummed out! Jordy is my favorite player and such a pleasure to follow - outstanding player and someone I really appreciate as a role model for our youths. It takes a special player/human being for me to say: "I will feel his absence come Game Day." Get well fast Jordy!!!
Originally Posted by Toofless:
Concerning Janis; I think our enfactuation with him, today is, he's the only WR on the roster with the size and speed to blow the top off of defenses. It maybe wishful thinking on our part, but I think he's shown enough for us to be slightly optimistic
I think Cobb has as much end speed as Jordy. My concern with Cobb is that he is such a tough runner - it's all out. That's why he's so damn good. However, that style of running has some risk with his size.
Packers will miss Mr. Clutch. Nelson was almost always a sure bet. But, that was then and this is now. Janis has his chance to capture some spotlight. Montgomery too. Packers will be alright...just that we'll miss #87 this season. Go Packers!
Just sick over Jordy being gone for the season. D*mn.
Kind of like Brian's Song. Without the dying.
If an injury was going to happen to a starter, I guess I'm glad it happened to someone in the the WR corps. That's where we have the most depth. And I firmly believe that great quarterbacks make great receivers—someone is going to step up because that's what Rodgers does. He makes great receivers. I don't know if it will be Cobb or Adams or someone else, but Rodgers will find him. Remember when Robert Brooks went down back in the 90s? That was the start of Antonio Freeman's reign. Boyd Dowler went down early in the first SB and Starr found Max McGee and made him a Super Bowl legend. Rodgers will do the same.
But as Tschmack said, Rodgers is the only player we can't afford to lose.
Very good points pduck.I recall hearing that after Sharpe went out in 1994 and was done the Packers will have trouble on offense without him. In 1995 Robert Brooks took over as the #1 and was awesome. The passing game was even better. In 1996 Brooks went out and Freeman emerged. I can see a scenario like this happening this year. Adams is expected to improve even more now which will be absolutely necessary without Jordy. Assuming TT doesn't bring in a veteran WR, Montgomery,maybe Janis could be much like the Brooks or Freeman or Adams of this year.
Originally Posted by ChilliJon:
Kind of like Brian's Song. Without the dying.
Or the underlying sexual tension.
I think Davante doubles his numbers from last year. 81 receptions for 930 sounds about right. Add in Cobb's 105 for 1,570 and Ty shouldnt have to force anything.
Bigger key key is going to be Dick Rodgers. GB needs a TE to take a little heat off the outside guys.
I think this is going to be a coming out year for Adams. I was already worried that there weren't going to be enough balls to go around with Nelson in the lineup, but now is Adams' time to shine.
I know there's lots of talk about Janis but that's because he's a track star. People compare him to Jordy but Jordy was not a deep ball threat burner out of college.
Personally I think Ty has the better body type and will out perform, especially since he has special team ability. And I think Dick Rod is going to have a very good year.
Originally Posted by ChilliJon:
I think Davante doubles his numbers from last year. 81 receptions for 930 sounds about right. Add in Cobb's 105 for 1,570 and Ty shouldnt have to force anything.
Bigger key key is going to be Dick Rodgers. GB needs a TE to take a little heat off the outside guys.
Big play Jeff Janis with 6 catches 583 yards and 6 TDs.
Beyond the go route I haven't seen much from him. Reminds me a little of a white Corey Bradford.
Originally Posted by ChilliJon:
Kind of like Brian's Song. Without the dying.
Stellar work, Chilli!
My initial thought when it was presumed he hurt himself coming down from the catch was that it was just a total freak/fluke occurrence that could have happened at any time. Now that we know it wasn't even that knee and likely occurred when he turned up field, it's looking more and more likely that the surface at Heinz played a role.
A league that will spend millions debating the air pressure of a football to the tenth of a pound won't put in any sort standards in regards to the playing surface? To my knowledge, the only requirement in place is that all teams show the NFL logo somewhere on the field.