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RB is just not a spot I'd allocate a ton of money to.  There are so many more than serviceable RBs found in the lower rounds of the draft and in FA for cheap that I can't envision extending Lacy for the dollars he'd likely believe to command on the market.  If they do keep him great, but from my outsiders POV I don't consider it a priority.

Starks has been a great value for where they picked him in the draft (7th round) and the relatively modest contract extension he is playing under.

I'd still like them to get a change of pace type back (a Sproles type), but they probably value pass protection too much to do that and would rather line up Cobb or Montgomery in the backfield instead of using a roster slot on that type of player.

I'd still be very leery of giving Lacy big money.

Eddie Lacy is really ****ing good. TT got a pick trading back to get him. Traded with SF. 

Eddie was the perfect pick in 2013.  This team needed Eddie Lacy. They still need him. Serviceable don't ever replace threat. It never has. At any position. 

That's a helluva lot of contracts up for the 2017 year. Every single one of them are guys we might  want to bring back. 
Perry, Lang, Cook, and Lacy would seem to be higher priorities. Cook, Jones, and Thomas should be next in line. I really hope they even find ways to keep some of the "fringe" guys like Ringo or Perillo.

Lacy may command Top-5 money; certainly Top-10. Whether he can get that in Green Bay remains to be seen.

For those of you who still think that Eddie gaining 30 pounds is no big deal & does not effect him; take Zeke Elliot. He was 7 pounds lighter & 2 inches taller than Eddie coming out of college. Put 30 pounds on the guy we saw Sunday & try to tell me he would be as good. Eddie ran a 4.57 looking like this....what would he run now? The kid has great feet & vision but think how good he could be, that is the frustrating part. 

 

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Eddie Lacy runs 4.57 and 4.60 40's during Alabama's second Pro Day, Thursday, April 11, 2013, at the Alabama's Hank

From his FB page...so I think he's still working out.  Probably much harder to do in season when you are beat up as a running back.

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Elliott was a high school sprint champion in Missouri - he ran a 4.47 at the combine but was clocked at other times as low as the mid 4.3s. Even in college, there was no comparison in terms of talent.

At Alabama or in GB, Lacy's strength is once he's through the DL and meets a LB, he carries guys for 2-3 extra yards. He turns plays that are blocked for 2 yards into 4 yard gains. I doubt he could run a 4.75 40 right now. That's not a problem in a December game at Lambeau playing with a great passing offense where you can just wear the other team down, but playing on an offense that's otherwise devoid of big plays his lack of ability to be a home run threat is even more pronounced.

FLPACKER posted:

For those of you who still think that Eddie gaining 30 pounds is no big deal & does not effect him; take Zeke Elliot. He was 7 pounds lighter & 2 inches taller than Eddie coming out of college. Put 30 pounds on the guy we saw Sunday & try to tell me he would be as good. Eddie ran a 4.57 looking like this....what would he run now? The kid has great feet & vision but think how good he could be, that is the frustrating part. 

 

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Eddie Lacy runs 4.57 and 4.60 40's during Alabama's second Pro Day, Thursday, April 11, 2013, at the Alabama's Hank

He probably hasn't seen that 6 pack in 3 years and it's never coming back.

MichiganPacker posted:

Elliott was a high school sprint champion in Missouri - he ran a 4.47 at the combine but was clocked at other times as low as the mid 4.3s. Even in college, there was no comparison in terms of talent.

At Alabama or in GB, Lacy's strength is once he's through the DL and meets a LB, he carries guys for 2-3 extra yards. He turns plays that are blocked for 2 yards into 4 yard gains. I doubt he could run a 4.75 40 right now. That's not a problem in a December game at Lambeau playing with a great passing offense where you can just wear the other team down, but playing on an offense that's otherwise devoid of big plays his lack of ability to be a home run threat is even more pronounced.

he did a heck of a lot more at Bama than just carry guys 2-4 more yards. He changed directions, used spin move, showed some burst, and displayed excellent feet (which he still has)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Oh-KdpxivI 

 

MichiganPacker posted:
FLPACKER posted:

For those of you who still think that Eddie gaining 30 pounds is no big deal & does not effect him; take Zeke Elliot. He was 7 pounds lighter & 2 inches taller than Eddie coming out of college. Put 30 pounds on the guy we saw Sunday & try to tell me he would be as good. Eddie ran a 4.57 looking like this....what would he run now? The kid has great feet & vision but think how good he could be, that is the frustrating part. 

 

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Eddie Lacy runs 4.57 and 4.60 40's during Alabama's second Pro Day, Thursday, April 11, 2013, at the Alabama's Hank

He probably hasn't seen that 6 pack in 3 years and it's never coming back.

Well he probably has seen a 6 pack but he used it to wash down the extra large pizza. 

Add RB to the growing list of draft need positions for next season.   Starks is old and Eddie can't stay away from the fridge.

Looks like Don Jackson and Knile Davis for the long term.  

And we thought the CB position was a mess!?!?!?

 

Yeah Eddie was a great back at Bama and for 2 years in GB. If he had stayed even a little slimmer, say even 245, he probably could have made it through the whole season and totaled another 1,000 yards. Same for this season. 4,000 yards in 4 years would have earned him a really great contract, but apparently that's not enough of a motivator. Hard to say what is if 40 million dollars isn't motivating enough to stay off the fastfood. 

Tschmack posted:

Is Samkon Gado available? 

Oh the memories 

Rodgers will be chucking even more now.  MM is probably going muuhahahaha!!!

Who won the super bowl last year?

what round did Cj Anderson get drafted in?

Who won the super bowl two years ago?

what round did Blount get drafted in?

I have said this before, will say it again, we need 27.  he gives us those hard yards and makes defenses honest, so ya, hes on IR - fine, i would structure a contract for him that keeps him here, we went through this after AG, we couldn't pay anybody to get us 1 yd on 3rd and 1, that was painful to watch, we got a guy, he's hurt - let's keep him here.

pkr_north posted:

I have said this before, will say it again, we need 27.  he gives us those hard yards and makes defenses honest, so ya, hes on IR - fine, i would structure a contract for him that keeps him here, we went through this after AG, we couldn't pay anybody to get us 1 yd on 3rd and 1, that was painful to watch, we got a guy, he's hurt - let's keep him here.

To be honest, I am rarely confident that GB can pick up a first down on 3rd and 1, have seen them stuffed too many times.  Watching the game last week when McCarthy went double tight ends with two full-backs and the half back in a V formation, I knew it was going to get stuffed.  Trying to run up the middle when your formation puts all 11 defenders between the hashes is crazy.  IMHO, Lacy dances way too much before hitting the hole, especially for a big powerful guy.  And...the run plays take way too long to develop and the Oline has to sustain blocks for too long.  

 

michiganjoe posted:

He's averaging 5.1 YPC this year. He may be heavier than the Packers wanted but the production was there.

This.

He hurt his ankle v NYG, and maybe aggravated the injury v DAL. 



Who were the GBP RBs for the 2010 SB run? Brandon Jackson, Dimitri Nance, James Starks, John Kuhn. 

Starks had his one good run at the perfect time in the 2010 playoffs. The running game royally stunk during the season and an on-fire Rodgers barely got them in to the playoffs with a fair amount of help. That's not a reason for optimism.  

I don't think it's too crazy to think Lacy may have played his last game as a Packer against Dallas. I don't care if you sign him to a bargain contract or not, does GB and the trainers really have the time to babysit what he's eating, ordering him to put down the PS4/XBox, etc.

Lacy's dealt with 3-4 ankle sprains since coming into the NFL, much of which is being contributed to his weight.

Report: Eddie Lacy back up to 255-265 pounds

GREEN BAY, WI - OCTOBER 16: Eddie Lacy #27 of the Green Bay Packers looks to avoid the tackle attempt of J.J. Wilcox #27 of the Dallas Cowboys during the third quarter at Lambeau Field on October 16, 2016 in Green Bay, Wisconsin. The Dallas Cowboys defeated the Green Bay Packers 30-16. (Photo by Hannah Foslien/Getty Images) Getty Images

So much for Eddie Lacy’s weight loss.

Lacy, the Packers running back who was called out by coach Mike McCarthy last season for being overweight, spent much of the offseason working on trimming down. And that reportedly worked, with Lacy getting close to his target weight of 231 pounds, which is what he weighed at the Scouting Combine before the Packers chose him in the second round of the 2013 NFL draft.

Now Lacy has apparently gained all the weight back. ESPN reports that Lacy is back to his 2015 playing weight of 255 to 265 pounds. That suggests he lost around 30 pounds early in the offseason and then gained around 30 pounds in just the last few months.

Many brought up Bettis and most have concluded he was by far the exception and not the rule. Multiple fatigue/weight related injuries Lacy's had have shown he can't stay healthy and play at a high level playing north of 250

Do you remember that play Sunday when he was running to the right. Had a big hole and was running towards the first down. He was right at the first-down line and a safety came up to hit him and dropped him without Eddie getting another inch. I couldn't believe a top notch runner (especially one that big) could go down that quickly and easily. It wasn't like he was going against Jack Tatum or Ronnie Lott. To say the least, I'm not impressed by Eddie's running. Sure he gets the occasional break through but normally the big holes are there for him to run through; it's not like he darts through breaking tackles along the way and surprises us with great moves or his speed, or even his power. Unfortunately I think it's time to move on. 

PackFoo posted:

Jerome Bettis who played above 250 most of his career played for 12 years, rushed for over 13,000 yards.

Big difference between the two. Bettis ran a 4.48 at 255 pounds at combine, Lacy ran a 4.57 at 232 at his pro day. 

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