Put your post-game whining and finger-biting in this thread so we can ignore it easily and you don't spam the rest of the forum

What's the adjustment?  Bringing Bush for Hyde.  Changing from man to zone?  Seems like that was done but you're churning the bottom of the roster at that point.  What are these adjustments?  

 

You have a generic response.

 

I'm thinking maybe they should have tried anything to change what was happening as he was absolutely killing them. I don't know the specific adjustment but I think they should have tried something to disrupt him-bump him at the line more, double cover him, etc. As in last year's playoff game, they kept doing the same thing with the same result.

I love Donald Driver to death, but I hope he doesn't expect Rodgers to say "my bad" on that interception.

 

Can you say that the players just didn't fail in their reads and didn't tackle?  It sure looked to be the case.  Sure Capers has skin in the game but the adjustments argument just isn't the full picture.  

TT pisses me off when weaknesses at certain positions continually get exploited for a couple years and all he does is throw a retread or backup out there hoping one day the problem will be solved. He ignored the OLB opposite Matthews for a couple years and now it's the center position. EDS was not the answer in 2011. EDS & Saturday were not the answer in 2012. And it appears EDS is not the answer this year. There were 3 top notch centers available in the draft this year and all GB did was draft Tretter with the hope of converting him to center.

 

The return game is very similar. Management is so worried about a player being versatile as a returner AND a skill position that they keep throwing crap out there hoping one will stick to the wall. I DO miss the days of Rossum.

 

One final rant. The coaches continually change up the oline yet again wanting them to be versatile. Larry McCarren made a good point several weeks ago. The Packers have many linemen that are decent at several positions but few that are dominant at one!

 

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EDS was not the answer in 2011. EDS & Saturday were not the answer in 2012. And it appears EDS is not the answer this year. There were 3 top notch centers available in the draft this year and all GB did was draft Tretter with the hope of converting him to center.

And then TT went and injured Tretter to boot.  :sarcasm:

Which player drafted would you rather the Packers didn't draft to get one of the centers?  TT only selected two players before Bakhtiari, by which time those "top notch centers" were all gone.

(Also, what about those 31 other GMs who were stupid enough not to pick Bakhtiari in the first three rounds?)

I had James Jones as a starter on my fantasy team! Oh. Ok. Our inside linebackers are as much a liability in pass coverage as our safeties.

Lot of stupid in this thread I'm seeing. Face it, a couple things change  and this game looks completely different. If Finley catches the pass instead of tipping it, if the refs call the play right and it's 4th & 2 instead of 3rd & 6, etc. The 49ers got some good bounces and things were different...and the Packers only lost by 6.

I also find some of the criticisms very ironic. Half of you whiners came into the game PREDICTING Kaeperdick would rack up a ton of yards and the Pack wouldn't run the ball effectively. Yet when that happens you complain about it like you're surprised. A lot of the things you all predicted like Rodgers getting sacked 8 times or Kaep/Gore running wild DIDN'T happen yet you say nothing? Great fans.

Yup

 

 

Could've written pretty much the same thing last September and last January (you probably did). If, if, if... The 49ers have won 3 straight over the Packers because they were the better team 3 straight times.

 

Exactly-apparently you need to be completely blind to the facts and make excuses like a Viking fan to be a good "fan"

I'm not convinced of that. The 49ers SEEM like a better team, but in reality they're just the luckier team. They've been luckier with injuries and they've gotten some lucky breaks in the game, but it would have been very easy for them to have lost all 3 games.

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Actually I had no problem with Bulaga starting at LT so drafting Bakhtiari was a strange choice IMO with a need for a center.

So you wanted Barclay as the starting RT.    I thought the plan all along had been to flip Bulaga to RT, hope that either Sherrod or Newhouse could hold down LT, and draft somebody (Bakhtiari) for depth.  Tretter I think was supposed to be the eventual center.  But who knew Tretter was going to get injured, and Bulaga was going to get another injury? 

I know "we're nobody's underdog" but you have to feel good about what the Packers showed today, despite the loss.

 

They had to go through some pretty tough **** in that first half and that blown call certainly didn't do them favors. The loss of Burnett is definitely apparent but the run defense was awesome. They had 8 TFL's. Can't even remember the last time that happened.

 

Whiners gonna whine. 

Aikman said early on that the Bulaga injury was a good deal

Love the idea of segregating the panicky whining.

 

Having said that, I agree Ross has a 10-cent brain. He tried taking OTHER KOs out of the end zone and KUHN was yelling no...

 

Amzing the refs blew that dead ball call....

Once I saw Bush out in the secondary repeatedly, I knew it'd be an uphill battle...

I'm not convinced of that. The 49ers SEEM like a better team, but in reality they're just the luckier team. They've been luckier with injuries and they've gotten some lucky breaks in the game, but it would have been very easy for them to have lost all 3 games.

 

IMO we got our ass handed to us the previous 2 games and were completely dominated in the trenches. I see it as the niners being far superior the previous 2 games, but I agree today's game could have gone either way even with our horrible pass defense. I think we have closed the gap and by playoff time, we might surpass them.

Yes, the gap isn't nearly as big as it was last year. The front 7 looked a lot more physical, and the O'Line did a pretty good job pass protecting, although they still couldn't knock the Niners off of the ball. Jordy and Cobb were fantastic. Gotta keep them healthy all year.

The Packers only have up 2 sacks with a rookie LT, I'd hardly call that an a$$ whooping. Didn't we sack Kaeperdick more than that? And we certainly stuffed their running game even though they stuffed ours. Really what beat the Packers is a veteran WR finding the holes in the zone D. Better Safety played would help that a lot, but there was nothing the 49ers did that would lead me to believe their team was superior to the Packers. Better at some things? Sure. Worse at some things? Yeah. Better overall? No way. People need to stop peeing their pants over the thought of playing them, they're beatable. If the Packers played the 49ers again next week I would have full confidence in a win and that's not unrealistic.

Exactly. I wanted to believe he could give us one solid defensive game but man... he should never. play. defense. 

 

Disagree. I would have tried something. Anything didn't work.

 

 

 

It's interesting how different individuals define "negativity" and "whining". I believe the Packers have the talent to beat anybody. The players and coaches are paid. It isn't grade school or college. So the "we fought the good fight against this invincible foe" talk is as whiny and negative as it gets IMO.

 

Its the NFL. Not a Lifetime movie. The only positive is winning.

All you whiners need to go to bed.

 

Calm down. It's week 1. Everything is okay.... 

 

The only thing i can say of or certain about the rest of the season after this game is that the Pack won't go 16-0.  A lot is gonna happen between now and the end of the year.

 

The only opinion I feel the need to share is that I really want to see Burnett and Heyward back as soon as possible.

Mike McCarthy was asked for anything encouraging to take from the loss. You'll want to read his answer:

"We came here to win the game. I don't know who the hell you think we are. We lost a game we were capable of winning today. We are in the mindset of feeling the pain of losing. This is not what it's all about. I'm sure they probably have a similar mindset or whatever their mindset is. But we came in here with every intention of winning this game today and we didn't get it done. We did not do the little things to win today. We've got to fix that, correct that and get ready for the Redskins." 

 

"We're nobody's underdog"

Mike McCarthy is right. There aren't any playoff berths for teams with the most moral victories.

They are a better team right now because they covered their talent holes (mainly at receiver) and didn't make stupid mistakes in the return game or turn the ball over.

I realize Burnett/Heyward being out are a big loss to the defense, but holy fVck - why does the middle of the defense look so open all the time?  Any team with a decent pass-receiving TE is going to be extremely difficult to deal with, even after the banged-up guys come back.  I just hope the pass-rush can get much more improved to help overcome this issue.

 

The Dom Capers defenses have always seemed to have this achilles' heel (and it really wasn't that abused today).

I have no problem saying the Niners are a better team than Green Bay.  Mind you, it's not by a large margin but I believe they are.  There's a sizeable gap between their offensive line and defensive front seven and ours.... Except at Center.  We got that **** locked up. 

Always lost on these debates seems to be the other team.  They get paid to play and coach too.  They study film.  They have talent.  They scheme.  Boldin and Davis are pretty damn good players.  Sure, Hayward and especially Burnett would have helped out but we'll never know.  

You answered and asked your question. In that order. 

The reason the middle is so open is that we don't have an LB that can cover a TE.  The only time in recent memory we did is Brandon Chillar.  Contrast the coverage on Finley that the 49ers were able to make with a LB (at times).

I thought the defensive front looked good.  Remember they had to contain Kap which may have contributed to a "lack of rush" at times.  We loss this game in the middle and the TO's.  Ross FUs did not help either.  At this point, yeah the 49ers are a better team, but the Pack can play with them.  We have a season to improve.  All in all, I am okay with this loss and feel I can walk the halls at work in enemy territory tomorrow.

 

Props to Jordy today! Nice to see him back to his form.

The good:  Lacy is the real deal if he has even a glimmer of a hole to go through.  Nelson and Cobb were very good for hardly having had any pre-season work.  Jolly gives the D-line some toughness they lacked the past 2 seasons.  The revamped O-Line was shaky, but hung in there vs. a very tough front 7.

 

The bad:   Didn't see a 2nd pass rusher emerge to help Matthews.  Against a line as good as what Frisco has, Matthews alone isn't enough to pressure any QB they put out there whether it's Alex Smith or Kaepernick.  Also bad were the safeties.  Other than Morgan Burnett, I am not sure there is a starting caliber safety on the roster, and with Burnett out it really showed.

 

The real bad:  Ross' kick returns.  Finley's horrible drop leading to an INT.  I was happy Finley redeemed himself with the TD, but geez, that drop does not inspire confidence for his immediate future.  Also real bad were the refs, just hate the inconsistency on holding calls.  BE CONSISTENT IN HOW YOU MAKE YOUR CALLS FOR BOTH SIDES!!!

 

Overall, not a horrible loss even though every loss is painful.  Definitely need to step it up a bit these next couple weeks to keep from any more early season losses.

Them not having Crabtee is a much bigger loss than us not having Burnett/Hayward IMO. If both teams were healthy, they would have won by a larger margin IMO.

Doubt it.