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Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:

Both penalties were obviously the right call (throwing the flag, that is).  Clay needs to be smarter than that in the future.  I don't want him getting a Suh reputation (I don't think he will, Suh is a moron) and it hurts the team.  I hope he takes his fine and kicks ass within the whistles and sidelines for the rest of the year. 

Someone needs to send Kaeperdick a message. CMIII's hit didn't affect the game at all. I loved it.

Originally Posted by DH13:

NFL now saying Staley should not have been penalized on the CM/CK hit.  Guess we can shut up about that one now.

What a bunch of BS by the league. Since when do they make announcements that penalties shouldn't have been called? I must have missed the apologies for some awful PI calls last year on Shields.

Also, WTF is Harbaugh talking about. Staley clearly escalates a late hit and turns it into a brawl...that's a flag. You don't have to throw a punch to draw a flag. And oh, by the way, Boldin very clearly throws a punch in the melee as well. Not to mention his fineable block on Bush later in the game (the play where CK scrambled for 15 while three guys were getting held).

 

The refs didn't cost the Pack the game by a longshot. And Harbaugh has put together a hell of a coaching staff in San Fran. But that guy just has to STFU sometimes.

Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:

Aikman said early on that the Bulaga injury was a good deal

I caught that, El Ka. I had to hit the jump back on the ol' DVR to make sure I heard him correctly. I think the concussions have really taken their toll on ol' Troy Boy.

Originally Posted by Grave Digger:
The Packers only have up 2 sacks with a rookie LT, I'd hardly call that an a$$ whooping. Didn't we sack Kaeperdick more than that? 

Off the top of my head, Jolly and Matthews both got 1.0. So we got at least as many.

As bad as the safety play was yesterday, the one play that seems to be getting the most coverage on the sports shows is the nearly-whiffed assignment by T. Williams. The ball was about to be snapped, and Tramon was on the other side of the field, running down to cover Boldin. I believe he was picked, and Boldin caught it for a key third down conversion.

 

I don't expect backups to make great plays. But I expect backups (and starters) to at least be within ten yards of a receiver or tight end when they are catching the ball. Far too often yesterday a 49er was catching the ball without a Packer jersey anywhere nearby. Both the players and the coaches bear responsibility. And both the players and coaches need to iron these issues out. 

 

I believe they will. 

 

 

Hmmm.  Forgot about 2011 already?  Let's hope it doesn't turn into one of those again. 

 

The first big improvement should come from a more consistent pass rush when the DL isn't constantly squatting in their lanes to avoid a RO gash.  The secondary simply can't cover for 7 seconds on every pass play.

I think Mike Daniels and Johnny Jolly are poised for big years rushing the passer. Daniels has made the leap and Jolly's size and motor will help him get a push. A strong interior push has been what's missing from this D IMO. The interior rush died when Jenkins left, but I think between Jolly and Daniels we will get enough.
Originally Posted by Esox:

I think we'll see that pass rush you want when containment of the QB  is not as big of concern.

 

Agree.. It was clear on several plays that the interior DL and even LOLB were told to contain instead of pressure Sunday.

Probably see it again this week, but when we face a more traditional QB it will be time to release the hounds.   I'm not saying they are going to be a top tier pass rush unit, but they should be improved from last season.

Not a whine...

 

I do wonder what Capers will do the next time they meet. Sure seems like he schemed to stop the run which they did but at the expense of the DL push in the middle. DH13 is right, can't give any QB that much time to throw, guys will get open in a zone.

 

I posted an article from Paul Imig today in the game thread where Capers talks about Boldin. They had a plan but the players didn't execute in most cases.

 

Will need a plan to pressure Kaep without giving up the edge for the scramble.

I certainly want pressure from the D line, but the actual rush I want to see from the LBs or blitzing DB(s). If the DL can pentrate enough to not allow the QB an escape path, it's up to the outside guys to close the deal.

If they can actually defeat their blocks and rush, that's like icing on the cake. Either way is ideal for a 3-4 defense, IMHO.

Originally Posted by Esox:

Respectfully disagree. I thought the D-line played the game well. 

If that was directed at my post I think you read wrong.  I think they played a great game, it's just the game plan was for them to fill lanes rather than jet upfield after the QB, hence the lack of consistent pass rush.  That was the strategy - to turn CK into a passer. 

They get plenty enough sacks.  They need more consistent pressure from the middle.  Pressure doesn't have to always result in sacks, just a hurrying of the throw = less time for WR to work open.

Originally Posted by Hungry5:

Not a whine...

 

I do wonder what Capers will do the next time they meet. Sure seems like he schemed to stop the run which they did but at the expense of the DL push in the middle. DH13 is right, can't give any QB that much time to throw, guys will get open in a zone.

 

I posted an article from Paul Imig today in the game thread where Capers talks about Boldin. They had a plan but the players didn't execute in most cases.

 

Will need a plan to pressure Kaep without giving up the edge for the scramble.

I thought the DBs were supposed to be pretty good with some depth at backup. Not so, they were bad.

Originally Posted by Boston Jim:
Originally Posted by Hungry5:

I thought the DBs were supposed to be pretty good with some depth at backup. Not so, they were bad.

While the DB depth may not be as great as we thought in camp, they're also not as bad as they looked as a whole on sunday.  The key issue was the two "depth" guys starting at S and not having Heyward on the field.  It all fell like dominos from there.  I thought Shields and Tramon had good games, considering their S help was what it was.  Still don't know about Hyde.

Originally Posted by DH13:
Originally Posted by Esox:

Respectfully disagree. I thought the D-line played the game well. 

If that was directed at my post I think you read wrong.  I think they played a great game, it's just the game plan was for them to fill lanes rather than jet upfield after the QB, hence the lack of consistent pass rush.  That was the strategy - to turn CK into a passer. 

They get plenty enough sacks.  They need more consistent pressure from the middle.  Pressure doesn't have to always result in sacks, just a hurrying of the throw = less time for WR to work open.

Sorry about that Dude!  I was too sober to read.

Originally Posted by DH13:

 The key issue was the two "depth" guys starting at S and not having Heyward on the field.  It all fell like dominos from there.

Don't know if someone already mentioned it but one of the reportedly biggest problems was Burnett's hamstring didn't flare up until Friday.  He took all the practice reps when they were installing the game plan. 

 

I know it's a tough spot for the young guys, but it would be nice to see some improvement from them in year two.  I can't remember a single standout play either made on Sunday.     

There weren't two depth guys starting at safety on Sunday. One of them was going to start even if Burnett was healthy. That's the problem. The Packers don't have a second starting caliber safety on the roster.

SF's secondary was no different than GB Sunday. Rodgers went for 333 and 3td's. Had a 17 yarder dropped by Finley (and picked) ending a drive and another drive cut off after 1 play (following a hold) when Lacy fumbled. No reason to think Rodgers isn't closing in on 400 himself if Finley hangs on and both drives don't end the way they do. But there's no mention of that here. 49ers are just better. More talent. Stronger roster. Our DB's depth is poor. Our DB's were bad. Doesn't matter SF wasn't missing their starting safeties.

A Niner fan asked me today...

 

Niner fan: Think we'll beat Seattle?

 

Me: I don't know, do you think you'll play perfect football again with very few penalties & zero turnovers?

NE was the only team this week who lost the TO battle & still won the game, on a last second FG after dominating the Bills in every other category. Our two turnovers were not "caused" by the 49ers, Finley's was just a screw up, Lacy's was on a routine tackle. However, the type of defense we played on Sunday is not going to force many turnovers, best chance for TO's is when heat is applied to the QB, via him fumbling on sacks, or forcing him into bad throws. From Sundays game:  Kaepernick under pressure: 2-for-7 for 39 yards and a 50.3 QB Rating. In a clean pocket: 25-for-32 for 373 yards, three touchdowns and a QB Rating of 146.5.

No problem, esox.

 

The crazy thing is the non-pressure-squat in the lanes strategy probably would have worked with Burnett and Heyward on the field.  Without them vs. WAS they probably need to mix it up a wee bit.

 

It is encouraging though to see our D has an answer to the big bad RO everyone was talking about during the offseason.  Test #2 coming right up.

Originally Posted by Boris:

A Niner fan asked me today...

 

Niner fan: Think we'll beat Seattle?

 

Me: I don't know, do you think you'll play perfect football again with very few penalties & zero turnovers?

don't keep us in suspense...

Originally Posted by Boris:

 Me: I don't know, do you think you'll play perfect football again with very few penalties & zero turnovers?

few penalties  

 

They had 11 penalties for 85 yards against GB. At least two GB touchdown drives were aided by 15 yard penalties (one for roughing Rodgers, one for Bowman doing something over by the Packer bench).

 

SF also missed a makeable FG towards the end of the half giving GB its best field position for the 2 minute drill. That could have been a 7 point swing (3 for 49ers, allowed Pack good field position for TD rather than FG going into half)

 

The 49ers didn't play a perfect game either.

 

As to another poster's comment about how GB thrashed the SF secondary...I agree. But let's acknowledge that at least the 49ers made GB work for it. You've got Nelson diving for balls on the sideline, Cobb taking vicious hits, etc. On the other side, save for a couple nice catches by Boldin, it was way too easy. I'd take the 49er secondary performance over GB's any day.

Originally Posted by chickenboy:
Originally Posted by Boris:

A Niner fan asked me today...

 

Niner fan: Think we'll beat Seattle?

 

Me: I don't know, do you think you'll play perfect football again with very few penalties & zero turnovers?

don't keep us in suspense...

Hey Boris, lovin' your new t-shirt.

 

SF missed the FG off the Finley drop/int. So there's that.

 

You'd trade a bad secondary performance for a bad secondary performance. Jones had a bad drop as well. But maybe he was concerned he was going to take a vicious hit or was working way to hard on the play. I can't say for sure.

 

 

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