Put your post-game whining and finger-biting in this thread so we can ignore it easily and you don't spam the rest of the forum

I agree. The niners still win. The GB defense could not stop the niners. I'm still glad CMIII clothes lined that prick. 

Wow. Where did the season go? I only thought they played 1 game.

 

I expect the 9ers to improve throughout the year as well.

 

To play devil's advocate, the difference between GB and SF in how much they improve through the season I think hinges on how much room for improvement each team has.  SF is a predominantly veteran team, if I recall.  GB has a lot of rooks and 2nd year guys who you would think have more room for improvement.  Of course this theory hinges on whether those young guys can be as good or better than the veterans that have presumably already topped out for SF. 

 

For example, is SF OL going to get noticeably better than they already are?  Doubt it.  Is the GB OL going to get noticeably better?  I hope so but there is at least more room for that to happen.  I could see their back end getting better as Reid matures.

I agree with DH13. We have so many young guys who haven't hit their ceiling yet. I doubt Boldin makes it through the season, and Gore is getting old, too...

It's a pretty good point. The team that is better at the end of the season usually rides the hot hand. 49ers did it last year, Packers did in 2010. Lots of teams start hot until the film is there and then they can be taken apart. And furthermore, there is going to be more and more film on Kaepernick. All it takes is one tell, one tendency to be discovered, and a veteran DC will exploit it.

I think DC's are going to have to find something more than just one hint with CK.  I think the dude is pretty darn good and he hasn't started a full season yet.  It's true that the more film there is on him, the tougher he will find having success but he sure has all the elements a really good Q needs.  Will be interesting to see how he plays the next couple years and how he counters others' counters.

Injuries, or lack of will play a big role, they have not had one of their stud lineman hurt in two years, they are due. 

If Dom Capers, the greatest defensive coordinator in football, could not find a weakness, then no one can, specifically because there is no other Dom Capers out there Dom Capering the hell out of a defense like our own Dom Capers.  I suspect if they meet again, Dom Capers will Dom Capers a little harder and Dom Capers the 49ers. 

I agree. We'll see who improves the most. 

 

DH, how do we know how good Kapernick really is ? He is surely athletic with a strong enough arm. But, he's playing behind a great O-line and very good defense. Hard to gauge him IMO.  I'd like to see him under a little bit of pressure to see how he'd handle it. 

He was 2-7 with a QB rating of 50 when the Packers did put pressure on him.

 

I don't think he's as good as the Niners hope he is.

 

He has a long way to go before he's "elite"

he's the greatest player in the history of the NFL. 

Only because Tebow is not in the league.

We don't, and I'm not saying I do.  All I'm saying is I've seen him beat teams with his legs and his arm.  And while he was throwing to wide open receivers from his picnic blanket sunday, I have seen him put balls in really right places.  He is a good passer.  He may wilt if teams can figure out how to bottle up his running AND put consistent pressure on him when he throws.  It will be up to him and his coaching staff to avoid that from happening. 

Pretty sure Dom Campers is the greatest player in the NFL and I have always said that

Capers is life coach/mentor to Bill Braskey and Jonathan Goldsmith.

Ahh, but he has elite arrogance.  That's gotta count for something.

elite arrogance > respect

 

 

I don't know about having a LONG way to go. Agree he's not there yet but the guy can beat you in many ways and I think he's a lot closer to elite at this stage in his career than about 90% of the starting QB's in the NFL were at the same point in theirs. I'm not a fan of the guy, but he's definitely a player.

I think Tim Mastay had a good game.

One play that ABSOLUTELY stood out for total stupidity was the 43-yard pass completion after we took the lead at 28-24. Tramon lines up right on olo' 81. Play starts. He flares off to guard some no-name scrub to his left and Shields, standing 20 yards away, is supposed to handle Bolden????? Well after he'd already made our secondary his beech? MAKES NO SENSE! I trust Tramon one on one with the talent more than anyone else back there right now. And McMillan had quite possibly the worst game I've seen from a Packer safety since Charlie Peprah....

AND on the last play a three man rush by the Niners almost results in a sack. Our interior OL was pathetic last Sunday.

Seems to me the 49ers are going to play it straight during the season and then lean on Kapernicks legs in the postseason with unscouted looks if they need to.  Smart way to use it.  No need to risk injury in the regular season so long as they aren't desperate.

I don't mind Kapernick (besides beating the Packers).  He's shown he can perform well with his arm, his legs, or a mix of both.  IMO the way to take out the 49ers is to beat them at their own game,  Win the TOP and keep the ball out of his hands and keep their hulking offensive line off the defense.   Their very disciplined and play fundamentally sound concepts that play to their strengths.  They're very good at not turning the ball over.  It's more on the offense to play to their full abilities than the defense if you ask me.   

 

Titm, I think you hit the nail on the head.

 

It's well known the 49ers don't rotate their defensive players much (even 49er fans complain about this) and don't have a lot of depth. If that's the case, why wouldn't MM attack that weakness?  They keep the 49er O off the field, and protect the Pack's weakness, which is the injury-hit secondary.

It wasn't as if they just conceded possessions. They did try to run the ball, control the clock. It just didn't work.

It'll be something to watch this weekend against the Seahawks. They can run the ball, have a mobile qB to extend drives, and a stout D to force bad possessions. If they're successful in maintaining that control, they do what the Packers couldn't.

Even whether SEA can run the ball on SF or not, SEA will have a superior secondary going into that game. 

I get the respect for Seattle and SF to a point. But I'd like to see either of them actually accomplish something. The way the last two years ended sucked. But the fact is only one NFC team has made the playoffs each year since 2009. The Packers. It's early but 2013 could be 5 consecutive years and another opportunity to win it all.

 

Losing in the playoffs sucks. But unlike every other NFC team for the last 4 years at least we know what it's like to be part of the discussion in January and have Hardware to prove it.

Seattle doesn't have DOM CAPERS

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But I'd like to see either of them actually accomplish something.

I'd like to see them accomplish nothing.  (Yeah, yeah, I know I'm taking you out of context.  Or at least, you didn't complete your thought.)

Again...

Way too many mistakes to fit in this thread.

Rodgers sure was in a zone....of CRAP!

Thought having the bye week so early was gonna be a huge negative....now not so much.  Just once I 'd like to see this team at full cast.

 

Kudos to Bengals they took the game away from the Pack.  Lots of things to get cleaned up, worse game by AR12 and the WR in a long time.  RB clearly the shining star on offense, OLine held up well better execution on the  cut blocks moving forward.

 

Defense was great first 2 and 1/2 qtrs, some big plays again case of them getting overworked tired by the end?

i am starting to think we are overrated as a whole.  when the chips are down, we need to win those games, that's mental and physical toughness, we lost on both counts.  not saying its over, but i don't think we are who we thought we were.

 

@PackerReport

Rodgers was 0-18 entering year when trailing in fourth quarter against teams with winning records. Now lost to SF and CIN. @FO_ScottKacsmar

 

@robreischel

#Packers @AaronRodgers12 finished with QB rating of 64.5 ... the 5th lowest of his career in a regular season game he started.

 

@ESPNStatsInfo 

Aaron Rodgers: 5-17 as starting QB in games decided by 4 points or less

I'm sick of all the injuries.  Time to start nutting up and playing in a fukking game or get off the damn team.  Clay needs to get some specialization on his hammy--every damn year it costs the team because he ends up missing time.

Ross needs to go. The choker cost us big time once again.

Other side: we lost our starting TE, down to the last remaining RB on the roster, lose our #1 D player and lose on a fumble by a rookie.  Tough cookies in the NFL and yes it still sucks.

Seems to be a trend AR needs to improve on.