Put your post-game whining and finger-biting in this thread so we can ignore it easily and you don't spam the rest of the forum

Osi was available though.  TT is an idiot!!!!

Center is the most important position in football.  

FTFY

I'm not overly worried yet either, Pakrz, but it is irritating to see the Packers lose like this. 

It takes more than one guy to lose a football game, but Arod's play today was a big part of it.  Luckily, he's the best player in the league (That fell in TT's lap) and we don't have to worry about too many repeat performances from that dude. 

True!

In the scheme of things, the real world, LT then Center. RT is not as important unless the QB is a southpaw thus his blindside.

So basically you were assured that a guy from Cornell was our starter if not for being hurt? Prescient of you. Again, the fallback is then EDS protecting a HOF QB.

Offensive line expert...

Did you figure out who Matt Birk is yet?

I puked up my kool aid today, but I think that was more due to listening to acheman.  Man, is there like a PEL for acheman?  I think I am experiencing a chromic toxic affect.

I'm pretty sure they drafted him to be a cheerleader and not compete for the center position.  And yes, EDS is a suitable backup.  I want you to explain to me how all teams are stocked at all positions with starters and maintain the cap.  

LT is the second most important position, RT is not far behind because they are still blocking the edge and against edge rushers.  The interior is just that, the interior.  While it takes a cerebral player at Center (which is why you don't want a highly intelligent athlete from Cornell)  but they still have the reliance of the other interior linemen.  

Now, let's list all the teams with starters 2 deep at all positions.  Go ahead.

I guess I'm not using hindsight and still have bad takes like your Rodgers take.  You do realize that you lost all credibility with that post?  You're a toy now.

Stick around ****wit.  Try to keep the Exing to a minimum.

looks like this is the bears' year. do they have any injuries?

Nowhere did anyone say that any team should or could be "2 deep at all positions", show us that post. That's merely your pathetic attempt to pump life into your tired posts.

Of course TT was very lucky that Rodgers fell to him. No plan after Favre, just inertia, and then Rodgers was there. Duh. That's the "take". And history. Get over yourself.

No plan after Farve, the plan was Arod you realize the Farve played a few more years after ARod was drafted.

Brett, is that you?

Bears up 17-0.

There was no plan as in Rodgers not falling to them. I know full well Favre played longer. The point is simple and not debatable: Rodgers, who was 1 or 1A in that draft suddenly fell like a stone right into TT's hands. It isn't as if TT saw him falling and moved up a few picks to ensure the pick. Other than Rodgers falling to TT what was the plan then for life after Favre? Go the Colts route c. 2011?

You do realize if Rodgers had not been there TT likely is long gone as GM?

i said it before - if they can maintain their defensive/special teams performance and improve offensively, the bears can beat anyone. so far, that it the case. curiously, they are starting 2 rookies in their OL.

"Of course TT was very lucky that Rodgers fell to him. No plan after Favre, just inertia, and then Rodgers was there. Duh. That's the "take". And history."

I watched that draft and knew 10 picks before the Packers were going pick Rodgers would be there. All you had to do was look at the teams in front of them to know that. If I could see it, I'm pretty sure Thompson could.

And of course no one else might have traded up. Fact is, Rodgers fell to TT, who still was unsure and called the 49'ers GM about Rodgers.

A whole lot of dumb on this thread. 

So you expect them to get better as the season progresses yet, you dont' see that happening for the Packers a team you claim to be a fan of?

excalibur = gerg

bores with a commanding lead in the division and playing with tons of confidence. makes today's loss more costly.

Can see that bad loss being the difference in the end. GB finishing 1 GB or something like that. Puts added pressure on them winning both matchups with Chicago this year

How the bears play tonight against a horrible team will tell us a lot?

Ummm, no.  

we are just referring to overall standings in the division. a win by chicago places us 2 games behind.

More likely his sister.....

that's what it's for. i'm amazed how well it works too.

we struggled early in the 2010 season as well while the Bears peaked early.

Really interested in seeing how we come out against the Lions in 2 weeks.

2 good things from today was the realization that we actually have a deep and talented running attack (when healthy). Lacy, Starks and Franklin are a solid group. got to hold on to the ball though.

Another was the D finally started to cause some turnovers.

CApers had some effective blitzes called early in the game.

Negatives: Rodgers is human. He will have a less than stellar game once in a while.

The D and running game almost saved us but way too many mistakes cost us.

Cincy is a solid team but we blew another chance on the road to pick up a big win against a good team by shooting ourselves in the foot. up 30-16 late in the game should be enough to seal the deal. 

I thought the playcalling, especially on the last drive, was bad. The little 5 yd outs were wokring early in the drive when we had  a long field. but when we got to the 25, and the D creeped up, they didnt work. But we kept going back to it and it kept getting batted down. Wouldve liked to see Rodgers get out of the pocket and try and make something happen. Settling for all those field goals on a short field was

frustrating.

-Ross is terrible but Im guessing he'll get 1 more shot to prove himself. Though if a move was to be made the Bye week would be a good time to do it.

-Whats the deal with all teh head shots against the Pack the first 3 weeks? Seems like all 3 opponents had concussion bounties on our players.

Still early, and as mentioned SF, ATl and GB are all 1-2. This loss isnt too big a deal, though now our division games take on even more significance. We could be 3 games behind chicago by the time we play again.

MM has work to do but this team has alot of tallant.

IMO, OL is the only group that is a concern but the running game is getting better. 

I would put Cobb back on Kick returns. hell be mostly just taking touchbacks on kicks and fair catches on punts anyways. You cant afford special teams mistakes week after week and Cobb is an actual big return threat.

4th and inches and we call a hand-off to a Smurf RB.  All we needed to do was sneak, get the first and at the least another few minutes runs off the clock.  At best, we get a TD and are up by 10.  That is what I cannot get over.

Rodgers played like crap, and MM had another one of those spells where he tried to get too cute with his play calling.

Who won exactly as many Super Bowls as TT.

Again, a sneak behind EDS? No thanks. Some kind of rollout was probably their best bet of picking up the 1st down.

Being 1-2 sucks, but let's put things in perspective.  We have lost two games to two Super Bowl contenders, on the road, by a combined 10 points.  We were in both games with chances to win late in the fourth quarter.  A few points of interest:

• We had 6 combined turnovers in both losses with a turnover ratio of -2.
• 99 yards in penalties, including multiple personal foul penalties.
• 8 for 23 on 3rd down for 35% third down efficiency.

Turnovers and big penalties have not been helpful.  We are a good team, but we need to play close to mistake free to win games against quality opponents on the road.  Eliminate a couple of turnovers and dumb personal foul penalties, the outcomes in these two games could very well have been different.  If I am MM, I make these two factors points of emphasis.

TOP has also been a major factor, especially in the SF game.  No defense can play well late in the game if they have been on the field for too long.  That said, it looks like we have discovered a running game - very encouraging.  Look for TOP to improve as the season progresses.

I am not happy being 1-2, but we can make a lot of progress by reducing turnovers/penalties - and we don't need to revamp the roster to fix them.

Agree.  I don't like having a regular player like Cobb back there because of possible injuries but maybe so.

Again..hindsight.  I didn't think the QB sneak was a good call there and I sure as hell didn't want to see the 25 yard pass downfield.  That left running the ball with the only available RB on the team.  

Steelers making it interesting at least.

Yes, Rodgers fell, and yes, TT made some calls to try and discern why he fell (ie: something late-breaking he hadn't heard, some medical red flag, etc.) because that's what thorough GMs do.