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Fandame posted:
YATittle posted:
Brainwashed Boris posted:

"grading" is what teachers assistants are for

Not allowed in my district.

Mostly, only university profs have TAs. Us high school teachers are on our own. Not only that, but as an English teacher, grading consists of reading struggling writers' "essays." Oy.   But sometimes you run across a kid or two who writes so well that you know you'll be reading their work someplace special in the future. It keeps me going... 

Yup! Spent the weekend so far reading journals from my sophomores. Some are so talented!

YATittle posted:
SanDiegoPackFan posted:

Congrats Quite One.  I have 4 or 5 years left of teaching.  Lucky for me my wife is younger and a nurse.   But I had kids late in life and will have my first one in college next year.  So, I might have to work longer.  Good news is I still enjoy what I do.

Wow--I'm a teacher with about five years left and my wife is younger and a nurse....

OK.   I'm a Math teacher.  Every kid's favorite subject.  

Wife:   6 years younger.   Sharp Grossmont Hospital.  Bakersfield North alum.   Star Athlete.     Six Degrees of Separation.   Your turn.  

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SanDiegoPackFan posted:
YATittle posted:
SanDiegoPackFan posted:

Congrats Quite One.  I have 4 or 5 years left of teaching.  Lucky for me my wife is younger and a nurse.   But I had kids late in life and will have my first one in college next year.  So, I might have to work longer.  Good news is I still enjoy what I do.

Wow--I'm a teacher with about five years left and my wife is younger and a nurse....

OK.   I'm a Math teacher.  Every kid's favorite subject.  

Wife:   6 years younger.   Sharp Grossmont Hospital.  Bakersfield North alum.   Star Athlete.     Six Degrees of Separation.   Your turn.  

Wife seven years younger. Mercy Southwest Hospital. Bakersfield High Alum. 23andme told her she had “elite athletic genes." Both our kids played college sports on scholarship.

 

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SanDiegoPackFan posted:
YATittle posted:
SanDiegoPackFan posted:

Congrats Quite One.  I have 4 or 5 years left of teaching.  Lucky for me my wife is younger and a nurse.   But I had kids late in life and will have my first one in college next year.  So, I might have to work longer.  Good news is I still enjoy what I do.

Wow--I'm a teacher with about five years left and my wife is younger and a nurse....

OK.   I'm a Math teacher.  Every kid's favorite subject.  

Wife:   6 years younger.   Sharp Grossmont Hospital.  Bakersfield North alum.   Star Athlete.     Six Degrees of Separation.   Your turn.  

YA- I spent a career in the military where guys often have kids or a second family later in life!  You reply made me think about a friend of mine  81 y\o whose post  military baby just graduated from college.  Like you he enjoyed his second career and will probably die on the job!!

YATittle posted:
SanDiegoPackFan posted:
YATittle posted:
SanDiegoPackFan posted:

Congrats Quite One.  I have 4 or 5 years left of teaching.  Lucky for me my wife is younger and a nurse.   But I had kids late in life and will have my first one in college next year.  So, I might have to work longer.  Good news is I still enjoy what I do.

Wow--I'm a teacher with about five years left and my wife is younger and a nurse....

OK.   I'm a Math teacher.  Every kid's favorite subject.  

Wife:   6 years younger.   Sharp Grossmont Hospital.  Bakersfield North alum.   Star Athlete.     Six Degrees of Separation.   Your turn.  

Wife seven years younger. Mercy Southwest Hospital. Bakersfield High Alum. 23andme told her she had “elite athletic genes." Both our kids played college sports on scholarship.

 

whew.  almost thought we were married to the same gal...ha.    That is great news on the kids getting scholarships.   My oldest graduates this year and signed her letter of intent last month.

Sounds like we have a lot of teachers on here.  My wife is teacher and she has 7 more years to go until retirement.  She will retire before 58 years old and it will be interesting to see if she gets bored or not.  She always is busy with work and I think she likes the challenge and I can see her going back to long term teachers sub.  I give all of you such props for doing that job and being able to handle it until you retire.  Truly a thankless profession.

Me? pffft when the day comes I can actually retire no boredom problems for me.  As long as I can still play golf and take the grandkids fishing I will have plenty of things to do.

YATittle posted:

Wow--retiring at 58 from teaching? By us that pension doesn't pay max till 63, and I started late so it won't be that great. We don't get retiree health care either.

yep she was lucky and landed a job right out of college and will have the max you can go here at 35 years.  Well you can go further but it wont benefit her retirement if she goes longer.  One of the reasons I will have to work so long after her is the medical benefits they may not have them in retirement.   Like I said she probably is happy about that because I wont be around to irritate her 24X7 that way.

Out here in Cali - where we were just deemed the worst state in the Union - we don't max out until 63 (as YA mentioned). 

The highest multiplier you can get is 2.4.  So, it takes over 42 years until you can get at least 100% of your last year's salary in retirement benefits.  Fortunately, in our district, they will cover Health Care until 65 when Medi-caid takes over.

The bad news is the cost of living out here is ridiculous and taxes are very high, too.  Great weather, though!

Younger wife as well; she’s an engineer. She’s the breadwinner; I am the filler money. She does stuff with automotive while I teach the next generation at 3X less. I will retire and schlep the kids around for a couple years. Hopefully they get scholarships as son is a pretty good athlete amd daughter an artist and both have good grades. Wife is jealous that I’m retiring before her, but I plan not to hold it against her. :-)

SanDiegoPackFan posted:

Out here in Cali - where we were just deemed the worst state in the Union - we don't max out until 63 (as YA mentioned). 

The highest multiplier you can get is 2.4.  So, it takes over 42 years until you can get at least 100% of your last year's salary in retirement benefits.  Fortunately, in our district, they will cover Health Care until 65 when Medi-caid takes over.

The bad news is the cost of living out here is ridiculous and taxes are very high, too.  Great weather, though!

Yeah, in LA the teachers get health care in retirement and many consider that an irresponsible waste of money--not a dime going to current students. My district is run by republicans so I knew going in I'd be taking care of that. Cops and Firefighters, as they should, get lifetime medical.

Doing it over, I would've started teaching younger. Better deal for the retirement. But I did buy five years air time a long time ago which is a horrible deal for the taxpayers that Gov. Brown is wisely trying to get rid of that, but a union sued him over that.

SanDiegoPackFan posted:

Out here in Cali - where we were just deemed the worst state in the Union - we don't max out until 63 (as YA mentioned). 

The highest multiplier you can get is 2.4.  So, it takes over 42 years until you can get at least 100% of your last year's salary in retirement benefits.  Fortunately, in our district, they will cover Health Care until 65 when Medi-caid takes over.

The bad news is the cost of living out here is ridiculous and taxes are very high, too.  Great weather, though!

In NY State you can get maximum (60% of average of last 3 years salary) with 30 years / age 55. I lost 7 years in NC , so have to go until I'm 62. We can cash in unused sick days (up to 180 days) for health care payment in retirement. I think I'll have my first 7 years after retirement paid for. 

FLPACKER posted:
SanDiegoPackFan posted:

Out here in Cali - where we were just deemed the worst state in the Union - we don't max out until 63 (as YA mentioned). 

The highest multiplier you can get is 2.4.  So, it takes over 42 years until you can get at least 100% of your last year's salary in retirement benefits.  Fortunately, in our district, they will cover Health Care until 65 when Medi-caid takes over.

The bad news is the cost of living out here is ridiculous and taxes are very high, too.  Great weather, though!

In NY State you can get maximum (60% of average of last 3 years salary) with 30 years / age 55. I lost 7 years in NC , so have to go until I'm 62. We can cash in unused sick days (up to 180 days) for health care payment in retirement. I think I'll have my first 7 years after retirement paid for. 

In CA we get 10 sick days a year and you can only get time worked credit toward pension with them. At my site so many dedicated vets who never call in sick will get an extra years service credit. I only have 540 hours so considerably less for me.

Alright, I'll 'fess up.  I started my working career as a teacher.  But school politics ended that after a couple of years.  So I took what I knew and applied for a position at McDonnell Douglas in product support.  4 years later I was in engineering.  And at some point there after was given lead responsibilities over very short term projects.  That translated to being made a full time design lead.  I answer to a project manager, who in turn answers to a director of ...... something.  All I do is make sure the product works.  Along the way I have had to teach plenty of new engineers how to practically apply what they bring from school.  If a new engineer has been an intern with the company, the learning curve is a lot shorter.  So teaching has always been apart of what I do.  My wife is a consulting dietitian.  As such she has no benefits - like health care.  I do - and that is where I said us retiring together is just easier if we do it together when she is eligible - and she is only 6 months behind me.  I can deal with that. 

On the "what to retire to" front - which I have been considering and was a good comment in this thread.  In addition to helping our church more, I can help with the model airplane club I belong to - up keep of the flying site as well as continue to build and fly.  And a bunch of grandkids to visit is always there.  My wife likes to travel to see things - so I'll tag along with her.  But I have given some thought to working part time at Boeing - being the worker and letting the younger guys lead - two of them are ready now.  And applying for a position helping the Packers make sense of the NFL data dump they get has occurred to me.  I need to find out if my wife is up for a severe location change before I do that.   To me that would be fun - not work.  Being able to retire, being ready to retire, and retiring are slices of the same pie - so to speak.  They all need to be addressed.  I could retire now, but my spreadsheet says to stay put for 2 more years.  So I will obey the spreadsheet.   

The Heckler posted:

Sounds like we have a lot of teachers on here.  My wife is teacher and she has 7 more years to go until retirement.  She will retire before 58 years old and it will be interesting to see if she gets bored or not.  She always is busy with work and I think she likes the challenge and I can see her going back to long term teachers sub.  I give all of you such props for doing that job and being able to handle it until you retire.  Truly a thankless profession.

Me? pffft when the day comes I can actually retire no boredom problems for me.  As long as I can still play golf and take the grandkids fishing I will have plenty of things to do.

I give all of you such props for doing that job and being able to handle it until you retire.  Truly a thankless profession.  I sincerely want to know when it became fashionable to kick the teachers around??  When did that happen??  I've always held teachers in very high regard, still do, and it's like now they've become the scourge of any profession.  

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Goldie posted:
The Heckler posted:

Sounds like we have a lot of teachers on here.  My wife is teacher and she has 7 more years to go until retirement.  She will retire before 58 years old and it will be interesting to see if she gets bored or not.  She always is busy with work and I think she likes the challenge and I can see her going back to long term teachers sub.  I give all of you such props for doing that job and being able to handle it until you retire.  Truly a thankless profession.

Me? pffft when the day comes I can actually retire no boredom problems for me.  As long as I can still play golf and take the grandkids fishing I will have plenty of things to do.

I give all of you such props for doing that job and being able to handle it until you retire.  Truly a thankless profession.  I sincerely want to know when it became fashionable to kick the teachers around??  When did that happen??  I've always held teachers in very high regard, still do, and it's like now they've become the scourge of any profession.  

Goldie...I just want to tell you that I have always felt respected as a teacher.  I know that the fact that we are public employees and paid through taxes is tough for some people to take.  But, I have never let that bother me.  I have been able to spend 34 years doing something that I love and working with some really great kids.  I wouldn't trade my experiences as a teacher or a coach for anything....including higher paying jobs with less scrutiny.  



But thank you so much for the  kind words about my profession.

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There are times I feel disrespected as a teacher, like when a parent once said, “School is a joke. Just get through it.” This from a city official! I think the idea that teachers are the dregs happened about the same time someone thought up “those who cannot do, teach.” That and everyone seems to know what their kid - and other kids - needs more than the teachers do. I’d like to see that same person take their kid to the doctor and say, “He doesn’t need an appendectomy, it’s just a pulled muscle” or tell an electrician how to do their job. Also, Parents don’t often realize how different their kid acts in school vs out, or exactly how their kid stacks up against others. To say nothing of politicians who think they know how to fix schools and teachers without ever setting foot in front of a class. But, there’s nothing like seeing a kid “get it” and watching them grow as people.

Off the box, back to football!

Cool topic... didn't realize there were so many teachers in here.  I feel for you guys...

I'm in law enforcement and "can" retire in two years at 50.  I will probably, and I stress probably, retire in 6 years at 54.  While drawing a pension, I'll then go into a second career as a Security Director/Manager until I'm in my early to mid 60's.  I don't really have to worry about health care because I'm service-connected through the VA.  Outside of the LE pension, we have been investing pretty heavily (For us) into a 401k and Roth IRA for awhile now.  The goal is to be able to retire comfortably and do some traveling so we don't get bored.  Arizona is the final destination and plenty of golf is in my future. 

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Goldie posted:
The Heckler posted:

Sounds like we have a lot of teachers on here.  My wife is teacher and she has 7 more years to go until retirement.  She will retire before 58 years old and it will be interesting to see if she gets bored or not.  She always is busy with work and I think she likes the challenge and I can see her going back to long term teachers sub.  I give all of you such props for doing that job and being able to handle it until you retire.  Truly a thankless profession.

Me? pffft when the day comes I can actually retire no boredom problems for me.  As long as I can still play golf and take the grandkids fishing I will have plenty of things to do.

I give all of you such props for doing that job and being able to handle it until you retire.  Truly a thankless profession.  I sincerely want to know when it became fashionable to kick the teachers around??  When did that happen??  I've always held teachers in very high regard, still do, and it's like now they've become the scourge of any profession.  

I've worked at three different districts, in 2 states, mainly at the 7-12 grade level. I think the general public is influenced through TV / Film portrayal of education. When my own kids were young & watched shows on Nickelodeon or TGIF on ABC, I started to notice how they always portrayed educators in a negative light. The Assistant Principal was always an idiot, PE teacher always a sadist, etc. My experience has always been that in general kids & parents respect educators....or course if they ARE idiots, they will not. 

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