OK, QO. Hoculi is retiring, too.
Cowinkydink? 
When I do retire, I hope to write. I've done some in the past and would like to return to it, but on my terms. Of course, the dream job would be to write for the GBP!
Congrats Quiet One! A lot of good advice in this thread. At my work establishment, an engineer plotted years after retirement to death vs. age of retirement. The least squares fit was an inverse nonlinear relationship. I hope to follow your lead in a few years once I figure out what I want to do.
Brainwashed Boris posted:Sweet. I figure I have about 15-20 more years....
Well, that makes me feel better. Thanks Boss!
Hungry5 posted:I'm with you BK on the timeline. Seems like it is never going to come.
Of course, my wife thinks I need to work until I'm 70. I'm guessing she has other ideas of how much we need in retirement than I do. How much money does it take to complain about everyone else from the comfort of my Lazy-Boy?
H5, I feel the same way as you. My wife and yours must be related, though. I've been getting my Fed pension for 12 years now, had 2 jobs since, stopped working for 4 years to be a in-home caregiver for her Mom, and now have been working on the honey do list on our property for a couple of months (since I couldn't keep everything maintained while caregiving). But I'm supposed to drop everything and start looking for a new job in my 60's.
And she -- not born in the U.S. -- is the one who taught me the saying "Every place in the world except America people work to live. In the USA people live to work". Then it wasn't meant as a compliment as I first heard it back when I was pulling 80-100 hour weeks when with the Feds and she was stuck with the kids at home.
Sweetheart, make up your mind!
Congratulations, Quiet One! You've earned it, now do whatever the hell you want.
So.
As mentioned, retirement landing spot is St.George Utah. Went last month to do a little home-build planning and hiking....lots of hiking.
The lot we own is adjacent to Snow Canyon State Park, a gem of a place. Four hours into what we thought was a 3 hour hike, we come upon this vista....
Our lot is in the center with some red boulders in the corner of the lot. We were thrilled, yet terrified as it took another 2 hours to get off that damn mountain.
I am counting the days until my dead-ass is found in a mountain pass in Utah.
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Dead dead in a Utah mountain? I bet 80 to 90% of white folks go that way.
I assumed that was a picture of a military installation in Iraq.
BK: When you get ready to move I can put you in touch with a good camel dealer- he sells them armored and with IED protection!!
Blair Kiel posted:
I wanna be camped on the approach to those snow caps to the top left!
I am counting the days until my dead-ass is found in a mountain pass in Utah.
BK, we are all counting the days,
BK, here's info on crime rate at your future location.
https://www.exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,2087378
As long as you are not in a wagon train in Southern Utah you should be fine.
YATittle posted:BK, here's info on crime rate at your future location.
https://www.exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,2087378
Major crimes such as cow-tipping and stealing glances at comely lasses are on the increase.
Next you're going to tell me the US Government did Atomic testing near there in the 50's and everybody is going to die from the fall-out (like John Wayne did after filming "The Conqueror" there....)
Oh....wait.
Looks like you will never have to mow lawn again ever.
I thought it was going to be a link to the Mountain Meadows Massacre, although one person did refer to it obliquely.
ammo posted:Looks like you will never have to mow lawn again ever.
Just a weed eater for those stray cacti that might spring up here & there. That has to be cheaper than the lawn mower. But then I didn't do the math.
BK - you will have to give us updates on how all that is going for you. 
Pikes Peak posted:As long as you are not in a wagon train in Southern Utah you should be fine.
Have you recently watched "Godless" on Netflix?
Nope....I do read tho. May I suggest "Under the Banner of Heaven" by Jon Krakauer.
Goldie posted:The Heckler posted:Sounds like we have a lot of teachers on here. My wife is teacher and she has 7 more years to go until retirement. She will retire before 58 years old and it will be interesting to see if she gets bored or not. She always is busy with work and I think she likes the challenge and I can see her going back to long term teachers sub. I give all of you such props for doing that job and being able to handle it until you retire. Truly a thankless profession.
Me? pffft when the day comes I can actually retire no boredom problems for me. As long as I can still play golf and take the grandkids fishing I will have plenty of things to do.
I give all of you such props for doing that job and being able to handle it until you retire. Truly a thankless profession. I sincerely want to know when it became fashionable to kick the teachers around?? When did that happen?? I've always held teachers in very high regard, still do, and it's like now they've become the scourge of any profession.
A lot of teacher bashing came when uninterested parents decided to have the teachers raise their children for them. Those same parents derided teachers "because they have summers off" or "because anyone can teach" or "teachers are overpaid." In Wisconsin, the GOP controlled government here is eliminating teacher certificates because "anyone can teach." What none of these parents or government officials realize is how much time and money teachers spend getting recertified, obtaining the school supplies they need to teach with, plus all the other school mandated, after hours activities, let alone finding the time to make a daily lesson plan. Many teachers have to be coaches, counselors or advisors for student clubs. How many parents of problem children are at those after school meetings?
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Exactly. I have had parents say, "He's yours now." We're supposed to be a team helping their teen. Not what they think they pay taxes for. Sad. Remember a professor in my teacher prep program who had recently been a working teacher tell me the problem these days is parents don't want to be parents, how much work he went to to convince parents to take away their child's video game console when they weren't doing the work. And anyone can teach, but can anyone teach EFFECTIVELY? That takes training, practice, experience.
Loving this thread. My late Dad was a career HS teacher up North who made a very big difference in the lives of his students. Whenever I get back home I invariably run into many from the multiple generations of students he taught, coached and mentored and I hear nothing but love and respect for my old man.
That's why he stayed in the classroom. Teachers can have such a positive impact on the family and the community. Such an underpaid and underappreciated profession.
What you said. Fact is teachers do earn a lot of psychic wages. I know you can't use those to buy a car, but it is so cool to get paid to help people.
mrtundra posted:Goldie posted:The Heckler posted:Sounds like we have a lot of teachers on here. My wife is teacher and she has 7 more years to go until retirement. She will retire before 58 years old and it will be interesting to see if she gets bored or not. She always is busy with work and I think she likes the challenge and I can see her going back to long term teachers sub. I give all of you such props for doing that job and being able to handle it until you retire. Truly a thankless profession.
Me? pffft when the day comes I can actually retire no boredom problems for me. As long as I can still play golf and take the grandkids fishing I will have plenty of things to do.
I give all of you such props for doing that job and being able to handle it until you retire. Truly a thankless profession. I sincerely want to know when it became fashionable to kick the teachers around?? When did that happen?? I've always held teachers in very high regard, still do, and it's like now they've become the scourge of any profession.
A lot of teacher bashing came when uninterested parents decided to have the teachers raise their children for them. Those same parents derided teachers "because they have summers off" or "because anyone can teach" or "teachers are overpaid." In Wisconsin, the GOP controlled government here is eliminating teacher certificates because "anyone can teach." What none of these parents or government officials realize is how much time and money teachers spend getting recertified, obtaining the school supplies they need to teach with, plus all the other school mandated, after hours activities, let alone finding the time to make a daily lesson plan. Many teachers have to be coaches, counselors or advisors for student clubs. How many parents of problem children are at those after school meetings?
^^^^ that right there is spot on. I think a lot of the bashing comes from seeing the few bad ones that gripe a lot and are ready to take it to the union an strike if they have to. But in reality there are very few teachers like that as I get to know them more.
My wife who is a teacher is my second wife and before her I knew her I knew nothing about the teaching profession. I was one that would say things like "ugh another taxy levy for the schools? so they can only work 9 months a year and want more money?"
As you said people need to understand what that profession really is all about. She routinely works 12 hours a day with meetings for kids who need special help, mandatory events, grading papers until 11pm and oh mix in lesson plans as well. Then on top of it they have to spend big bucks to get recertified/licensed, have to be part of curriculum meetings on and on.
But even with all that she will in a second do anything to help any kid for anything that they need. If can be something as simple as buying a kid's lunch because their family is too poor to always get lunch.
This ^^^ My wife also thought teaching was an easy gig until she saw me grading into the wee hours, trying to squeeze in lesson plans, missing our own kids' events to be at mandated school events, going to work evenings for events, etc., etc., and now wondering if I'm safe in the classroom -- and doing it at one-third what she gets paid. And yes, constantly being there for kids before school, after school, and answering emails on weekends. If it wasn't such a chance to make a difference, I doubt anyone would go into teaching. Almost all of my high school students tell me there's no way they would become a teacher today. Sad that those who prepare the next generation are so belittled by so many.
"Almost all of my high school students tell me there's no way they would become a teacher today."
In CA we have a problem. We need to replace 22,000 teachers each year. Our fifth year college teacher certification programs are graduating only 15,000. I have noted few if any of my students thinking about going into education.
I am in Minnesota where we are just starting to feel a shortage of teachers. Most of my students tell me they would not put up with the crap teachers have to in the classroom, and the hours we put in. There's a lot of states in teacher deficits right now, and until some changes are really made to make the profession more attractive, I think it will continue. Someone was telling me teachers in Germany(?) taught only three hours a day and spend the rest of the day planning, grading, and collaborating with fellow teachers. Sounds like a dream, if you ask me! :-)
Much respect for teachers. No way in hell I could do that job, dealing with undisciplined mouthy brats, nevermind the lack of pay.
8 years in the Marine Corps, I would probably snap if one kid stepped out of line. I might be able to handle being the Phys Ed teacher. They would despise me.
Thank-you for your (alleged) service.
Did you get your ass-kicked every day in The Corps for being a contrary asshole, or do you just do that here?
Blair Kiel posted:Thank-you for your (alleged) service.
Did you get your ass-kicked every day in The Corps for being a contrary asshole, or do you just do that here?
I've messed up a few fists with my nose, yes.
There are too many parallels between choosing to become a teacher and choosing to enter military service. Long hours. Low pay. Huge sacrifices to self and family. And, sadly, these days, the risk of being exposed to gunfire.
It's a calling.
Timmy! posted:There are too many parallels between choosing to become a teacher and choosing to enter military service. Long hours. Low pay. Huge sacrifices to self and family. And, sadly, these days, the risk of being exposed to gunfire.
It's a calling.
It definitely is. I'm grading every weekend till June. Sometimes over the holiday breaks, too, that are supposed to be such a great benefit. I tell students considering becoming English teachers be ready, it won't ever change IF you're committed to helping your students be better communicators.
This is sick. Some states have insanely bad teacher pay.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/0...station-workers.html
I never got my masters (I coached three seasons a year for 32 years and didn’t want to spend even more time away from family working on the degree) so I never got close to making out the pay scale...so after 30+ years I still don’t bring home a huge salary. Not that I care...the time coaching and teaching have been worth it...plus Wisconsin Retirement System is pretty good.
Funny, I would never have compared teaching to the military...but I can kind of see it now.
I always compare teaching and law enforcement, only because every asshole out there has seen it second hand and thinks they can do it just as well, bad eggs get overgeneralized to all the hardworking folks busting ass out there, and neither of them get appreciated enough for how much they make their communities better.