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49ers GM John Lynch said they did call Green Bay today about Aaron Rodgers. "Yeah, we inquired and it was a quick end to the conversation. It wasn’t happening."
LMAO -- They already gave up a shitload for Trey Lance. They were going to give up even MORE for Rodgers?!?!
Love me some Brandt
Agent for Aaron Rodgers: Dave Dunn.
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) April 29, 2021
Agent for Jordan Love: Dave Dunn.#awkward
Operation save Aaron Rodgers:
— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) April 29, 2021
Trade Jordan Love
Huge long term deal for Aaron
Sign Pat McAfee
Buy Jeopardy
Trade for Julio Jones
Allow him to make the first round pick for you
Mark Schlereth says Rodgers is being traded to Broncos and it’s imminent:
Somebody forgot to tell the Packers this.
When Denver did not take a QB at nine, but instead took a CB we greatly desired, I figured the trade is a done deal - under the table - to be announced after June 1.
Now that we drafted another CB, I still have hope that we keep AR.
I’ll say this much. Today’s news makes me love the late great Bart Starr all the more. I’m too young to remember the end of his career-his final game came just under three months after I was born. But Bart was a class act the day the Packers picked him in the 17th round of the 1956 Draft. He was a class act the day he lost the 1960 NFL Championship, and won his first title a year later. He was a class act when he retired, and a class act when the Packer teams he coached stunk. Bart Starr never whined, never complained, never acted like a self entitled Prima Donna. With him, the team came first.
Even when Coach Lombardi chewed Bart out in practice one day, Bart had the sense to address Coach in private, asking him to not do that, as it undermined the team’s confidence in him. And Lombardi never did it again.
@Blair Kiel posted:It’s the “Fedya wheel” and it always will be.
Re:Rodgers. I ain’t got time for this shit. I honestly care more about the weather forecast for my outdoor cocktail party this Saturday than I do about this media erection.
I had to cancel my Cinco de Drinko party because the forecast has 25 to 30 mph winds. We had a taco guy and a margarita machine rented.
This makes me sad.
@lambeausouth posted:I’ll say this much. Today’s news makes me love the late great Bart Starr all the more. I’m too young to remember the end of his career-his final game came just under three months after I was born. But Bart was a class act the day the Packers picked him in the 17th round of the 1956 Draft. He was a class act the day he lost the 1960 NFL Championship, and won his first title a year later. He was a class act when he retired, and a class act when the Packer teams he coached stunk. Bart Starr never whined, never complained, never acted like a self entitled Prima Donna. With him, the team came first.
Even when Coach Lombardi chewed Bart out in practice one day, Bart had the sense to address Coach in private, asking him to not do that, as it undermined the team’s confidence in him. And Lombardi never did it again.
Football in the 50s and 60s is a far cry from the “business of football “ the past several decades,
@Boris posted:LMAO -- They already gave up a shitload for Trey Lance. They were going to give up even MORE for Rodgers?!?!
Love me some Brandt
Agent for Aaron Rodgers: Dave Dunn.
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) April 29, 2021
Agent for Jordan Love: Dave Dunn.#awkward
You'd think one of those agents would have to recuse themself.
@Darryl Hand posted:When Denver did not take a QB at nine, but instead took a CB we greatly desired, I figured the trade is a done deal - under the table - to be announced after June 1.
Now that we drafted another CB, I still have hope that we keep AR.
@PackLandVA posted:Football in the 50s and 60s is a far cry from the “business of football “ the past several decades,
This is absolutely true, and I took that into consideration.
But do you honestly think that if Starr the man were alive and in the prime of his career today, that he’d act any differently than he did back in the 1960s?
Could you see Bart Starr making cryptic posts on social media, or holding his team hostage with the “I’m thinking about retiring” bullshit? Could you see him doing any of the crap that Favre did and now, apparently, Rodgers might be doing? And for what? A little more money?
There are people in this country that are starving. People still looking for work. People burying their loved ones because of the pandemic. Rodgers is a stupid rich millionaire, engaged to a stupid rich actress. I don’t want to hear his whines, or the whines of his hired mouthpieces, because he somehow feels “disrespected”. Just fucking shut up, and play the damned game.
If he was alive and in the prime of his career today he would have been born in the 90's.
@PackLandVA posted:Football in the 50s and 60s is a far cry from the “business of football “ the past several decades,
You're right, the players now get paid a lot more and have a lot less to bitch about.
Sometimes it's hard to explain just what Starr meant to Green Bay (and vice-versa), but the way I see it is he was a great human being who transcended football.
He would be classy in any generation with no pretensions. He wouldn't need them.
@Timmy! posted:Sometimes it's hard to explain just what Starr meant to Green Bay (and vice-versa), but the way I see it is he was a great human being who transcended football.
He would be classy in any generation with no pretensions. He wouldn't need them.
I agree, and I guess that was the point I was trying to make.
I’m not going to demonize #12. He’s been a hell of a great player for us. I have no real beef with him. If he feels he deserves more $ after his third MVP season, that’s his right. He’s done much more than Dak Prescott, that’s for damn sure.
All I know is there’s a disconnect there, and there shouldn’t be. Rodgers, if he wants to be the highest paid, and wants to win another Super Bowl, has to understand that you really can’t have both. If he takes a bigger slice of the pie, that’s that much less to pay the rest of the team. Doesn’t he have enough money, between his salary in the NFL, and his endorsements, where he never has to even think about balancing the checkbook ever again? How much more do you need, Aaron? You’re the highest rated passer in NFL history (sorry, I don’t give that to Mahomes yet. He hasn’t played long enough). What more do you have to prove to anyone but yourself? This whole “I feel disrespected by my team” BS that many pro athletes carry as a Chip on their shoulder makes me want to vomit. I wish someone would disrespect me the way these guys do.
If it weren’t for pro sports, a lot of these guys would be working the drive thru at In-N-Out Burger. Let’s get real. The fact that they were born with athletic ability has made them kings, yet in the grand scheme of things, they really contribute nothing to the world.
Now you-all can blast me, I really dont give a shit!!!
TRADE HIS ASS!!! He is a primadona evidenced by the fact that he has no contact with his own family!!!!
If he wants a new contract he should have mentioned that to the front office and then just waited on them to get it done instead of whining and throwing his little hissy fit, "OH they dont love me cause they didnt jump and do what I wanted right away."
And he puts the front office under pressure at a critical point, The Draft.
Sure, he plays great BUT the team does not need his whiney antics, right now they need solidarity and focus to get to the SB this year.
Gutey acknowledged the communication with AR going into last year's draft could have been better and Brandt says the team could have done a better job managing Rodger's ego. Both those may be true but the bulk of the blame for this shitshow rests with AR. He took a business decision made by the organization way too personally.
All the talking heads keep talking about the leverage Rodgers has. What leverage? Packers are basically saying play under your contract or don't play, retire. Rodgers has zero leverage. If he worked for any other non-sports comapny that is what he would be told.
you know, I listen to local stuff, the fan, whatever, I hear Leroy on talking about how he turned down money to keep his legacy in gb. i heard driver on last week, same thing, got offered the brinks truck from minn, turned it down, didn't want to tarnish the legace, i thought AR would be in that boat...apparantly, not as classy as i thought he was - at least not saying anything publicly. for everyone says they arent' doing anything for him:
fired his old coach, who he didn't respect, hired a guy who could build within what he does, yep. spent like crazy in fa to build up what TT burned down for the last few years...yep. made him THE highest paid guy, yep, still in top 5, yep...wtf, maybe his times up here have an exit like 4, i'm done with the bs. just play to your contract and then leave. when you hear this crybaby stuff - and he doesn't rebute it (sarcasm, or whatever - i thought that denver comment was last night), lol, it hurts your legend, I thought if anybody got that 12 did.
The only leverage Rodgers has is to retire. But is that likely? I don’t think so. Plus, if he retires the Packers still hold his rights.
I don’t see any other scenario than the Packers trading him. They’ve already tried to extend or renegotiate and he turned them down.
Time to move on and make a deal.
Gunt statement:
“I certainly look back to last year’s draft,” Gutekunst said Thursday, “and just kind of maybe some of the communication issues we could have done better. There’s no doubt about it. The draft is an interesting thing. It can kind of unfold differently than you think it’s going to unfold, and it happens pretty fast. But certainly looking back on it, certainly where we sit today, there could have been some communication things that we did better.”
Kind of maybe. Did you sorta shoulda do your job as a GM?
Gunt is a fucking stooge.
@Tschmack posted:The only leverage Rodgers has is to retire. But is that likely? I don’t think so. Plus, if he retires the Packers still hold his rights.
Dougherty's article:
If it seems far-fetched – one of the greatest quarterbacks ever walking away for a game show – a source who knows the quarterback said Thursday he could envision Rodgers being enamored with "Jeopardy!" enough to walk away from the Packers, even football.
Rodgers hasn't come out & said anything about this garbage nor would I expect him to. Quite frankly, it's all BS. Packers know it, Rodgers knows it.
He's going to play this year. Never said anything to the contrary.
With the free-flow of "information" now, shit gets blown WAY out of proportion.
Look at all the Bullshit with Denver & Schlereth on Twitter. Bong, posting the Rodgers tweet about Denver from March 1, 2011 which I immediately shoved back to those idiots in Denver.
John Lynch coming out & saying...."When the MVP of your league is potentially available, you look into it. It was a quick phone call. IT WASN'T HAPPENING!"
Everyone needs to relax & STFU. Rodgers isn't going anywhere & he'll play in 2021 for the mighty Green Bay Packers.
@lambeausouth posted:This is absolutely true, and I took that into consideration.
But do you honestly think that if Starr the man were alive and in the prime of his career today, that he’d act any differently than he did back in the 1960s?
Could you see Bart Starr making cryptic posts on social media, or holding his team hostage with the “I’m thinking about retiring” bullshit? Could you see him doing any of the crap that Favre did and now, apparently, Rodgers might be doing? And for what? A little more money?
There are people in this country that are starving. People still looking for work. People burying their loved ones because of the pandemic. Rodgers is a stupid rich millionaire, engaged to a stupid rich actress. I don’t want to hear his whines, or the whines of his hired mouthpieces, because he somehow feels “disrespected”. Just fucking shut up, and play the damned game.
I think he is a drama queen..but to say he is stupid is.....well, stupid.
I have never seen his to be wife, I doubt she is stupid.
Better a year too early than a year too late.
I suggest as we started calling TOG the TOG we start calling AR....Lame Duck.
Oh, and like me, buy all the Packer shirts, hats, jackets etc you want. But never buy a player jersey. These guys are hired hands. Whatever loyalty we wish and think they have....”the I love GB “ bs is just that. They work for the most money they can get. And I don’t blame them at all.
I do wonder if Aaron will talk about all this “talk” on the Kentucky Derby Red Carpet tomorrow....... Wonder if his woman will be with him......I always thought it was “boy’s” day out.
Look, there is no question that Gute and Murphy and MLF probably could have engaged Rodgers more around the Jordan Love pick but let’s not kid ourselves.
Rodgers is a diva and as sensitive and passive aggressive as they get. Other than promising to never draft a QB under his watch I’m not sure Rodgers would have accepted any other answer. So he puts the cryptic “beautiful mystery” bullshit out there and has his camp float he’s unhappy instead of being a man and coming out and doing it himself. He might be a great football player, but he’s a fucking coward. And he thinks he can hold a gun to the Packers head? Good luck with that.
He’s all out of options. He can stomp his feet and pout but the Packers hold most if not all of the cards. If he doesn’t show up for camp he’s getting fined. If he sits out he loses accrued time toward free agency. If he retires he looks like a spoiled brat quitter and GB still holds his rights.
The best part about all of this is Rodgers fancies himself as the smartest guy in the room. Guess what? This ain’t the NBA or MLB. Players are pawns given their ability to force moves. For a guy that been so strategic about crafting a certain common person image to endear himself to the fans, he burned that house down in 2 hours yesterday afternoon.
I can’t speak for the offseason stuff, but I think the Packers are going to come out on top here just like they did with Brent. Everything Gute is saying is correct and if they truly cannot recover from this then they will get a massive haul back in return either now or after June 1. Meanwhile, Rodgers thinks he can be more successful in Las Vegas or Denver? That’s laughable.
@Henry posted:Dougherty's article:
If it seems far-fetched – one of the greatest quarterbacks ever walking away for a game show – a source who knows the quarterback said Thursday he could envision Rodgers being enamored with "Jeopardy!" enough to walk away from the Packers, even football.
But AR was one of the worst guest hosts so far. I just don't get why people think he could land that gig, they gave him a shot, he was an uncomfortable, wooden, pompous ass. Not an ideal host to follow Trebeck.
Ken Jennings was really good and even though I am not a big fan, Anderson Cooper has been a great host. LaVarar Burton is gonna kill it and probably get the long term job.
I don't know and don't care. The point is leaving football altogether isn't out of the question.
Again, whatever Rodgers decides to do is up to him but let's quit talking about this shit FO seriously trying to win a Super Bowl.
You show me a nympho super model who's extremely high maintenance and very jealous and I'll find you a guy that's sick of her BS. Thats AR and the Packers. Then when you've had enough and are going to break up with her, she introduces you to her equally hot friend who wants to have a threesome. That's AR's MVP season last year.
Yes, given AR's personality, it would have been smart to maybe notify him of your plans to draft a QB last year. Gutey et al should have been better at reading the room given they know better than anyone how AR was going to react. However, if AR's 2020 season was like his 2019 season, parting ways with him might have been in the best interest of the team. What was more likely: AR, at 36, continuing to decline or AR, at 36, having an MVP season?
The other thing that will complicate this is the Packer's cap situation. It is my understanding (both from this board and other sites) that by trading AR now, the rest of his signing bonus comes due immediately. The Packers have no room to absorb this cap hit, so it seems that a trade before June 1st is a non-starter. I don't know the rules, but is it possible that the team he is traded to can agree to absorb his cap hit?
I would bet that this gets messy. AR holds grudges (as we well know). By leaking that he's told people in the organization that he doesn't want to play for the Packers he's pretty much backed himself into a corner. If it's correct about the Packers cap hit, he's actually decreased his leverage because the Packers CANT trade him right now. All he can do is sit out or hope that the front office can offer him a new contract that makes him happy.
In conclusion, this whole thing sucks. The organization lost their bet that AR would either continue to decline or be "ok" with last year's draft. AR, so far, has not won his bet that the Packers will do whatever it takes to keep him and make him happy. In the end, I'm still a Packer fan, and that will continue with or without AR.
Reports are Rodgers wants a longer term commitment. Reports are that the Packers have offered him an extension, which he declined. The team is tight up against the current cap, and we don't know what the cap will be in '22. From a business perspective, I don't see how the Packers can do anything else at this time. As they begin to understand more about the '22 cap there is the possibility to extend AR in 8-10 months from now. There is also the possibility that as they understand more about the '22 cap they trade him next off-season.
For '21, he plays for the Packers or he sits.
I'll be enjoying some
for Rds 2 & 3 tonight.
@Boris posted:Everyone needs to relax & STFU. Rodgers isn't going anywhere & he'll play in 2021 for the mighty Green Bay Packers.
Exactly. I don't know what the Rodgers camp was thinking with their comments yesterday. They were made way too close to the draft for any team to get a legit deal together, let alone work through the contract issues. And no way the Packers trade him now, as any draft capital they get back is 2022. A trade like this doesn't happen with draft capital received being one year away.
I had predicted that Rodgers plays 2021 and 2022 then we move to the Love era. If Rodgers truly is pissed and this isn't all just a media creation, I think Rodgers plays one more year in Green Bay then they trade him. Rodgers is not the reconciliation type of guy; he's more the grudge holding type. So if his unhappiness is real, this isn't likely going to get better. And that's not a bad thing as he'll still have enough value next year to get at least 2 firsts, a second, and a young player.
@Tschmack posted:Rodgers is a diva and as sensitive and passive aggressive as they get.
I can’t speak for the offseason stuff, but I think the Packers are going to come out on top here just like they did with Brent.
You may turn out to be correct that the Packer management comes out on top in the Rodgers' divorce jsut like TT did when Ted was in charge when he moved on from Favre.
However, I'd caution against any premature peacocking and consider both what did happen during the Favre-Rodgers transition and what might happen as Gutey moves on from Rodgers to his QB Love.
If Favre doesn't make one of his patented bone-headed throws across the body in the 2009 NFC Championship game and God forbid the Queens go on to win that SB instead of the Saints, the outrage among the G&G faithful would have been through the roof.
And, while he is now I guess to be considered mostly a diva, sensitive, and passive aggressive, there is no doubt that Rodgers becoming a 3-time MVP QB (and getting to and winning that SB back in 2010) sure helped the front office "to come out on top" (when it came to Favre) among the Packer fan base.
Additionally, no matter how much the loyal to management fans spin it, Gutey moved up to take Rodgers' replacement when he still had 5 years on his deal -- an entirely different scenario than the annual will he or won't he retire Favre saga when Rodgers fell into Ted's lap and he wisely selected him.
Again, if Rodgers moves on and gets to as many SBs as he has over the past decade in Green Bay (ZERO) and Jordan Love plays at an above-average NFL QB level then yeah Packer fans will undoubtedly back Gutey.
But if Rodgers goes elsewhere and pulls a Brady and/or Love turns out to be a bust it is almost certain that there won't be any front office crowing over Gutey's decision to use his 2020 1st and 4th round picks on Jordan Love because everyone associated with those picks will be employed elsewhere.