@Goalline posted:Bad enough that the man has no soul. Now you call him a windbag. It is tough being a minority in America.
This team could do worse than hiring Don Cornelius as its President.
RIP Smoove Duke...
@sschumer - Packer Fan HoF'r posted:One of the best, level-headed articles I’ve seen in this whole fiasco: https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/...ored-perspective-254
Bad journalism. They left out the part where AR12 calls Gute's mom a fattie.
@Henry posted:No, because they didn't volunteer it. I'm sure due to the situation every team that drafted a QB with an entrenched or planned starter was getting the same question.
Ok, but maybe, just maybe because of the situation to the North it was asked? How many QB's from how many teams where drafted in previous years and how many of those QB's where told about it before the draft before the S storm came out in GB?
My point is that maybe, because of the situation in GB, EVERY team that drafted a QB this year notified their own QB that they were taking one. Just maybe to stick their finger in the eye of a rival franchise?
No, people wouldn't do that now....
@Packiderm posted:Nothin!
I believe Don and Yukon were cousins.
@Henry posted:And yet he still was given the courtesy of a head's up. Go fucking figure.
Dumb Gunt.
Former Green Bay Packers head coach Mike Holmgren said Friday he never would have allowed the franchise's relationship with quarterback Aaron Rodgers to reach a breaking point.
Holmgren, who coached the Packers from 1992 through 1998 during the Brett Favre era, said on ESPN Chicago's Carmen and Jurko (via TMZ Sports) that he would have taken a more hands-on role.
"I can't imagine a relationship between the coach or management or whoever is making the decisions and a star quarterback like that getting to this point," Holmgren said. "I just can't imagine it. I wouldn't allow it. It wouldn't happen."
The 72-year-old three-time Super Bowl champion (one with Green Bay and two as an assistant with the San Francisco 49ers) said he would have started by having an honest conversation with Rodgers about the plan to draft fellow quarterback Jordan Love in the first round in 2020:
"With a franchise quarterback and a guy as good as Aaron—you don't treat all the players the same. You have a line that no one crosses, but I would call him in and say: 'Look, we're going to do this. This is how it's going to affect you.'
"'We've got to get ready for when you retire. We've got to kind of think of the franchise. But, nothing's going to happen now. You're the man. You're the guy.'"
Holmgren added it's a "different world" now in terms of player empowerment than it was when the Niners traded for Steve Young in 1987 to become the heir apparent to Joe Montana.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reported last week that Rodgers, who wasn't informed by the Packers before they traded up to select Love, has "told some within the organization that he does not want to return to the team."
"We're not going to trade Aaron Rodgers," Green Bay general manager Brian Gutekunst told reporters following the first round of the 2021 draft last Thursday.
Rodgers is coming off a 2020 campaign after which he captured his third MVP Award for tallying a league-league 48 touchdown passes and just five interceptions.
For now, it sounds like the Packers are going to hold their ground and hope the franchise quarterback shows up when training camp starts. If they trade him, it could shift the NFL's balance of power.
Now we need to hear Jeff Query or Brian Brohms opinion. Someone get a mic in front of them pronto! I'm sure their speculation or opinion will clear this up!
Former GM Ron Wolf jumped in too:
"I can't imagine a relationship between the head coach and management getting to this point where the head coach is too busy worrying about his next job in Seattle... to get his team properly prepared for the damn Super Bowl... I just can't imagine it. That's why I made my famous "We're just a fart in the wind" comment Instead of a being hailed as a budding dynasty with back-to-back Titles in Green Bay, we're just another one and done. Inexcusable"
Yes, a former OC/HC/GM who worked with the likes of Joe Montana, Steve Young and Brett Favre has no credence.
Guess what, the Packers FO is run be idiots.
do these guys get paid for these interviews? holmgren is also pot/kettle deal...come on guys, resist the urge to pile in.
I'm sure it's coming up in every interview across the country. It's all just too juicy especially in the offseason.
I have no doubt we'll hear it all the way to TC.
@Henry posted:... but I would call him in and say: 'Look, we're going to do this. This is how it's going to affect you.'
The only thing I agree with you on. Otherwise, fuck you!
With a guy as sensitive as Aaron you have to manage him differently.
Through the whole season, no matter the outcome. If he’s in Green Bay it’s going to be a hanging over their heads just looking for any reason to come down. If he’s not in Green Bay, it’s gonna be talked about in every broadcast.
Thanks Murph
Haven't heard from Rodgers about this breaking point Holmgren references.
@Henry posted:Guess what, the Packers FO is run be idiots.
I think you're probably old enough to remember the old "Talking GI Joe" action figures from back in the 70's.
You'd pull on the rip cord and he'd say 1 of 3 phrases loaded into the toy
rrrrippp...Gute is an idiot !
rrrippp... Murphy has to go!
rrripp...Love makes bad decisions !
rrrrippp...Gute is an idiot !
rrrippp... Murphy has to go!
rrripp...Love makes bad decisions !
I'm not sure what happened to our old friend, erudite Henry, but at this point - you've become Talking GI Joe on this topic.
So I figured - I might as well have some fun pulling on your rip cord...
Because you've got nothing. The same erudite Henry is right here, it's just he's in your face this time.
I'll tell you another secret. Condescension will make me crawl up your asshole and make a nest.
I saw an interview with Jamaal Williams on NFL LIVE today. Love that guy. Of course they tried to get him to divulge secrets about Rodgers, but he said, nope, I’m loyal to my friends and I’m not going to say anything without their permission. Then he was asked if he’s dying to beat the Packers. No, he said, those guys are great friends. It will be a lot of fun to play them, but there’s no bad blood between us.
What a guy!
@Satori posted:I think you're probably old enough to remember the old "Talking GI Joe" action figures from back in the 70's.
You'd pull on the rip cord and he'd say 1 of 3 phrases loaded into the toyrrrrippp...Gute is an idiot !
rrrippp... Murphy has to go!
rrripp...Love makes bad decisions !
rrrrippp...Gute is an idiot !
rrrippp... Murphy has to go!
rrripp...Love makes bad decisions !
I'm not sure what happened to our old friend, erudite Henry, but at this point - you've become Talking GI Joe on this topic.
So I figured - I might as well have some fun pulling on your rip cord...
That was his finger not his a rip cord
@Henry posted:Because you've got nothing.
You don't know anything about "what I got " because all I do is pull your cord
I'm a little disappointed you haven't figured that out yet.
I make jokes, you continue to argue a point that's been stipulated eleventy million times.
You're arguing against air and patting yourself on the back for "winning" the argument. Congrats.
What's next? Hankbuc?
Pretty sure this is the story. If I was just "fighting the air" we wouldn't be past 40 pages.
It would be 12 pages without you two french kissing.
Yeah, page 5 was unreadable.
All 7 times.
@Satori posted:I make jokes, you continue to argue a point that's been stipulated eleventy million times.
I don't make jokes. I use other peoples jokes - just more efficient that way.
Bret Favre Excuse O Matic?
"PASS HIT A BIRD" - Yeah right. Only Randy Johnson did that. On that day he probably wondered what it takes to throw a strike.
@The Heckler posted:...
The media to me are behaving like social media these days. They only are looking to report the bad things and work everyone in to a frenzy over nothing.
@Blair Kiel posted:It would be 12 pages without you two french kissing.
Arrigo's blathering about Packers fans having to "go through this again"...
Yeah, it's not particularly enjoyable, but look at the alternative; having to go through 30 years, one at a time, wishing to get rid of their QB because he sucks.
And again when it becomes apparent that his replacement isn't their savior.
Rinse and repeat for every year of contract or salary cap constraints.
There are a few differences from now v 2008. Biggest one is the Packers want Rodgers as their QB1.
@Grave Digger posted:Florio already had a story bashing Schefter’s walk back.
Don't know why I even mentioned Kornheiser. He's an ESPN honk and they have been 100% silent on this change in the narrative.
So, it's true. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone is one.
It’s all about @AaronRodgers12 pic.twitter.com/oTaSXnataH
— O.J. Simpson (@TheRealOJ32) May 7, 2021
Ah. Er. Um. Derp.
"What do we know, fully know?"
Adam, jack squat is the answer.
The guys have some fun with the last @AdamSchefter interview.
— Nine2Noon (@Nine2Noon) May 7, 2021
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