@Phil posted:Adam Schefter Admits He Had No Sources On Rodgers/Packers Drama Story
Don't know how to post a video, but this is interesting.
Chongo posted it a few minutes before you.
Yeah Schefter on Dan Patrick said explicitly: Aaron Rodgers camp was not the source, GBP was not the source, there was no source. It was an accumulation of information that he read between the lines and connected the dots like a QAnon dolt. So in other words: there is no story, he invented a story and waited for corroboration to pour in which geniuses like Demovsky, Rapoport, etc. all did based on “information” from their “sources”. This was a fun exercise, but seems like a big fat load of nothing except a pretty complicated contract negotiation.
@SteveLuke posted:Yeah, when I think of highly-driven, successful NFL QBs I'd say humility is probably their #1 feature.
Come to think of it, humility is probably was most separates AR from TB.
It is either humility or something else I just can't put my FINGER on.
Compared to Rodgers Tom Brady is Mother Theresa. If Rodgers had 12 level humility he would already be a multi Super Bowl winner. Sometimes ego gets in the way.
Humility that makes Tom Brady take less money so he can get more help from teammates. It is humidity that causes Brady to stick with the call and not freelance their way into sacks. It is humility that allows TB12 to throw the short ball to his RBs to get first downs while AR12 is launching the stupid thing 80 yards down the field on 3rd and 2 with a resultant incompletion to show..
@pkr_north posted:$ zero shits given about fanbase or legacy or winning - give some $ up so we can sign some guys and make a run, ya right. that's where TB12 is the man - he DOES that. for AR, it's all $ - and that's a shame since he's the largest part of our cap hit for the next few years and hurts to extend other key players to 'run it back' - wow.
I mean you do realize that Brady ain't giving up anything, right?
He's making compromises in how the team structures the deal to maximize their cap flexibility, while at the same time getting more security, more money immediately, or more guaranteed money. He's not just giving away money. He's getting something in return so that the team gets something.
I mean you have to realize that, yes?
@Chongo posted:If I were the Packers and 12, I'd never speak to ESPN ever again.
They don't. ESPN have absolutely nothing to lose.
Just heard Matt Nagy on Cowherd say that he and the Bears talked to Andy Dalton on the morning of the draft and said a QB pick could happen.
@PackerPatrick posted:Maybe it’s more than just Gutie. https://sports.theonion.com/it...demanding-1846829102
I'm going with the custodian.
@Pikes Peak posted:Just heard Matt Nagy on Cowherd say that he and the Bears talked to Andy Dalton on the morning of the draft and said a QB pick could happen.
At this point it's all salt in the wound ops for these fuckers.
Don't mind at all TBH...
Now Gutey feels like an ass and is in the back of the room saying "well how was *I* supposed to know you should tell your QB if you're going to draft one?!"
He feels like the white dude who drops the n-word "because it's in the song," and all his buddies are like "BRO! That's SO racist!"
@Goalline posted:Compared to Rodgers Tom Brady is Mother Theresa. If Rodgers had 12 level humility he would already be a multi Super Bowl winner. Sometimes ego gets in the way.
OMG, do insular Packer fans really not know about Brady's enormous ego?
I mean, do you think TB objected to TOMPA Bay?
The biggest difference between Brady is that he had Bill Belichik (who understood it takes a D to win SBs) in his prime while Rodgers had ... Ted & Mike.
I can certainly understand why "Packer" fans who kept insisting year after year after year there was something really special about their Head Coach and GM (even after it was clear that if Ted was ever special his cognitive abilities had long since declined) would want to blame ARod's ego for the Pack's failure to even reach a second SB, but it is almost like the internet does not reach the North Woods ...
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/tom-brady-ego-kill-patriots-dynasty-forcing-qb-trade-article-1.3739515
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/03/23/terry-bradshaw-thinks-tom-brady-let-his-ego-get-way-staying-with-patriots/ (Remember when Bradshaw blasting Rodgers was quoted as gospel by the loyalists ... 2 days ago?)
https://www.npr.org/2015/05/13/406227352/was-deflategate-about-tom-bradys-legacy-or-his-ego
It's obvious the Bears and Vikings FO are just a bunch of pussies thinking their QBs deserve any kind of explanation. Shut up and play amirite!
@ammo posted:Enough of this. For years I wouldn't use the name Favre, it was always TOG. So now I'm ready to never use Rodgers or Aaron again. I think it wll be NOG (New Other Guy) or maybe TOOG (The Other Other Guy).
TWB - The whiny bitch!
@Blair Kiel posted:Goalline just jizzed.
Following me with a camera again?
@Dr._Bob posted:I think John Kuhn's comments have been the most illuminating and clarify what Rodgers actually wants. If they give him job and salary security rather than just a one and done plan, he'll stay.
And a fired GM? I refuse to look on the bright side of this thing before Aaron speaks. I'm getting pissy in my old age.
@Chongo posted:3-4 years isn't a "lifetime" unless you're a guinea pig.
Propaganda coming out of the FO is "we offered to make Aaron the top paid player in the NFL!"
Yeah, but for how long? A year? With the right to cut him free in 2022? I've said this from the start...I never thought this was about money for 12, it was about longevity.
I doubt he will play more than 3-4 more years anyway...he's getting married, and has talked about having kids.
3-4 years is a lifetime, for the rest of a 38 year old's football career. Aaron hasn't been Tom Brady like in any way, yet we seem to think he'll be winning Super Bowls at the age of 43? He won't. Not without a supreme change in his approach.
It is about longevity not money., You've got to be fucking kidding me. You mean, if Gunt cuts him in 2022 his career will be over??? They will be lining up around the block suck that MVP dick.
This, plain and simple is about ego and butt hurt. The ego and butt hurt that came about because the GM fell in love(Love?) with a young QB.
Or the butthurt is coming from the fact Gunt has been looking for a replacement, quite poorly I might add, since he took the job.
Perhaps this is more about Gunt's ego, knowing that Wolf made his name by getting Favre and TT made his name by picking Rodgers. Gunt wants someone he can call his own.
@Timpranillo posted:I mean you do realize that Brady ain't giving up anything, right?
He's making compromises in how the team structures the deal to maximize their cap flexibility, while at the same time getting more security, more money immediately, or more guaranteed money. He's not just giving away money. He's getting something in return so that the team gets something.
I mean you have to realize that, yes?
Can we get Aaron to do that too?
@Blair Kiel posted:I remember when I wasn't unemployed like I am now, I actually worked during the time my company paid me money.
Godddam I wish I had me a government job.
I do and here I am posting right now 
@SteveLuke posted:OMG, do insular Packer fans really not know about Brady's enormous ego?
I mean, do you think TB objected to TOMPA Bay?
The biggest difference between Brady is that he had Bill Belichik (who understood it takes a D to win SBs) in his prime while Rodgers had ... Ted & Mike.
I can certainly understand why "Packer" fans who kept insisting year after year after year there was something really special about their Head Coach and GM (even after it was clear that if Ted was ever special his cognitive abilities had long since declined) would want to blame ARod's ego for the Pack's failure to even reach a second SB, but it is almost like the internet does not reach the North Woods ...
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/tom-brady-ego-kill-patriots-dynasty-forcing-qb-trade-article-1.3739515
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/03/23/terry-bradshaw-thinks-tom-brady-let-his-ego-get-way-staying-with-patriots/ (Remember when Bradshaw blasting Rodgers was quoted as gospel by the loyalists ... 2 days ago?)
https://www.npr.org/2015/05/13/406227352/was-deflategate-about-tom-bradys-legacy-or-his-ego
He kisses his son on the lips. What an angel. Aaron won't even give his mom a hug.
@SteveLuke posted:The biggest difference between Brady is that he had Bill Belichik (who understood it takes a D to win SBs) in his prime while Rodgers had ... Ted & Mike.
EXCUSES!
@Henry posted:It's obvious the Bears and Vikings FO are just a bunch of pussies thinking their QBs deserve any kind of explanation. Shut up and play amirite!
WE ARE USING THOSE FRANCHISES AS OUR ROLE MODELS NOW???
@Goalline posted:WE ARE USING THOSE FRANCHISES AS OUR ROLE MODELS NOW???
It's actually a comparison. Kark and Dalton aren't even in the same ballpark as Rodgers as far as talent and draw but those two half asses were still extended common courtesy by those flop organizations.
It shows Gunt kinda maybe fucked up big time.
@Goalline posted:Can we get Aaron to do that too?
Can we can Gute to give something to AR in exchange for cap relief?
You gotta be f*cking kidding me. So Schefter just pieced this together based on comments throughout the offseason and decide to drop on draft night that Rodgers demanded a trade. Then Schlereth drops an hour before the draft that a deal with the Broncos was "imminent". What the actual f*ck??
Guess the last 25 pages of this thread was for nothing.
@Timpranillo posted:Can we can Gute to give something to AR in exchange for cap relief?
Gute gave up giving blow jobs in college.
@CUPackFan posted:You gotta be f*cking kidding me. So Schefter just pieced this together based on comments throughout the offseason and decide to drop on draft night that Rodgers demanded a trade. Then Schlereth drops an hour before the draft that a deal with the Broncos was "imminent". What the actual f*ck??
Guess the last 25 pages of this thread was for nothing.
My sources say Rodgers is trying to get Gute fired so he can replace Gute with SChefter.
Schefter explained that, after Paul Allen of KFAN reported that the 49ers made a trade offer to the Packers, it became inevitable that the deeper story of Rodgers’ discontent was going to come out. So Schefter realized that the story that he’d been holding wasn’t going to sit much longer. So he dropped it. On the first day of the draft.
“I said, ‘How long until it gets out that Aaron Rodgers wants out of Green Bay?'” Schefter told Dan. “It’s gonna come out. What does it matter if it comes out now or next week or next month?”
It matters because the story served as a near-total eclipse of the draft (but also may have caused more people to tune in, in order to see whether Rodgers would be traded during round one). It also matters because it peels back the curtain on the gamesmanship that can happen — and that does happen — when reporters don’t report what they know when they know it, but when they instead hold it for a later date.
If Schefter knew Rodgers wanted out before he sensed that Allen’s report would serve as the bucket of chum for a feeding frenzy of reporters, why did Schefter hold it? That makes no sense. Reporters should report what they know when they know it, and not save it for later and/or until they think it’s imminent that someone else will report it first. Especially when the story is this big.
Then there’s the possibility, frankly, that Schefter may not have his facts straight. Here’s Schefter’s original tweet on the subject, from last Thursday: “Reigning MVP Aaron Rodgers is so disgruntled with the Green Bay Packers that he has told some within the organization that he does not want to return to the team, league and team sources told ESPN on Thursday.”
League and team sources told ESPN on Thursday. That’s not an accumulation. That’s something that landed in his lap that day, if we’re willing to take his tweets at their word.
What a fucking twat.
The Packers should pull a Sterling Sharpe and tell ESPN to fuck off for any future interviews including allowing reporters access to their players. Complete bullshit on the timing and the spin of the story.
@CUPackFan posted:You gotta be f*cking kidding me. So Schefter just pieced this together based on comments throughout the offseason and decide to drop on draft night that Rodgers demanded a trade. Then Schlereth drops an hour before the draft that a deal with the Broncos was "imminent". What the actual f*ck??
Guess the last 25 pages of this thread was for nothing.
Basically, we now know for certain that sports media is a bunch of hens in a coffee klatch. The opinion guys have more cred at this point.
CBS Sports report the Packers are checking out veteran qbs.
Griffin, Barkley, Mullens, and someone else.
I just feel bad for the players who got drafted. Joe Horn brought it up last Friday, that when his son was drafted, ESPN barely mentioned it then moved right back to Aaron Rodgers coverage. Thanks Adam.
The problem with this "news" was that what Shefter dropped was not news but it was reported as news. The initial article specifically mentioned "per team and league sources" which alluded to it being news. Instead, it was Adam's interpretation of a bunch of events over the last few months. The article should have stated that. F*ck Schefter and ESPN.
Reason #8374 that I don't watch ESPN...except for the sporting events. They make CNN and Fox News look credible.
@Goalline posted:Can we get Aaron to do that too?
yep. this is exactly it. the picture is bigger than your time playing, when you are as good as both ar and tb, you transcend, your legendary - bring home championships and you will be rich beyond your dreams, i think he's concerned with right now and not 10 years from now, when he's not playing anymore. if he's truly legendary, he takes a hit for the betterment of the whole program...he raises the water line. tb12 is the goat, you cannot dispute that - where he is really the goat is he knows it takes a team to win at this thing and he knows when he's all done, he is in football lore, forever - now that's legendary.
James Jones on NFL Network just now: "I speak with Aaron all the time. It has nothing to do with getting the GM fired. It has nothing to do with a new contract and getting money...I think it's fixable."
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) May 6, 2021
Fucking Rodgers is at it again
Aaron Rodgers reportedly went to Brian Gutekunst house, and told him in these exact words: “go f*ck yourself”, and then stole his car. Per source
— 𝘿𝙚𝙫𝙤𝙣🧀 (@Trxnzition) May 6, 2021
and that schefter guy should be fired now - talk about mis-reporting drivel.
@pkr_north posted:yep. this is exactly it. the picture is bigger than your time playing, when you are as good as both ar and tb, you transcend, your legendary - bring home championships and you will be rich beyond your dreams, i think he's concerned with right now and not 10 years from now, when he's not playing anymore. if he's truly legendary, he takes a hit for the betterment of the whole program...he raises the water line. tb12 is the goat, you cannot dispute that - where he is really the goat is he knows it takes a team to win at this thing and he knows when he's all done, he is in football lore, forever - now that's legendary.
If I can be serious for the first time in this thread's pathetic history, I really do think AR12 deserves every penny he has earned and much more. He really is worth the 60 million a year that he apparently is asking for. Simply the best NFL player I have ever watched. His prescence on the team probably grows the Packers' value $500 million every year.
On the other hand, if it is all about championships the NFL rules goes against teams paying "too much" to any one player. If he wants to try to win a championship without giving up salary, more power to him. It is an overwhelming challenge, He came really close last year.