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@packerboi posted:

Adam Stenovich, and frankly Gute, doesn't get enough credit for the OL either. Stenovich has been simply outstanding in coaching up these players to not only be good OL but also to be incredibly versatile.

How many teams have multiple OL who can literally play up and down the OL?

Dudes like Jenkins and Turner can go to multiple positions AND play pretty damn well.

And Gute is directly responsible for drafting and continuing to stock this OL with pretty decent players. So much so that it's being rumored a veteran like Lucas Patrick may not even make the 53 because this area has so much depth.

Any NFL team would kill to have this "problem"     

I think Gute understands that you build the offense from the OL out.  I think it was John Madden who said you start with the center of the OL and you build your offense from the inside out.  I know many here hate Gute but I will give him credit for doing that.

I think the correct anatomical term is "doughole" or "frontal hemorrhoid".

Doug needs a straw to take a piss.  Doug is the only guy to go to the doctor and request an optional catheter.  The doctors and nurses just howled with laughter and said insurance wouldn't cover cosmetic procedures.

He's currently on the whizzinator donor wait list.

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I've learned in this business, you never shut the door on anything," Carr told ABC30's Bri Mellon. "I know that he's obviously the best receiver -- everyone said one of the best, he's the best receiver in the NFL. The guy is unbelievable. He's been one of my best friends since we were in college together. I love the guy.

... "I would always welcome to play with him again. I think it would unlock some things in both of us that people haven't seen yet. I'm always open to that and I will be recruiting very hard. When that time comes, it will be a full-court press."

Carr has seen a bit of a rotating cast at receiver in recent years, and he hasn't had a wideout lead the Raiders in receiving in each of the last three seasons. Instead, it's been tight ends, with Jared Cook finishing with the most receiving yards on the team in 2018 and Darren Waller doing so in both 2019 and 2020.


https://theredzone.org/Blog-De...s-to-Raiders-in-2022

😑  and that’s it……if my boyfriend OR Davante are gone this season, I will……we’ll I don’t know what I’ll do, they just better not be gone.  

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If Davante does re-sign, couple that with Bakh's extension, Kenny Clark, and then the inevitable Alexander and Jenkins contract, it would pretty much deflate Rodger's mantra/drum beat that the Packers FO is terrible, the philosophy sucks and players aren't treated right.

I mean, if that was true, why are these marquee players re-upping with the Packers?

Like it or not, it's a fair question AR probably doesn't want to answer.     

12 can't answer it, because I don't believe for one minute it's about the FO not doing what it takes to win, I think it's more about he doesn't feel like "they know who he is."

I've said it from the jump...12 is behaving like a 7th grade girl, but WMM and Gurt still shat in the pie over the way they've "handled," him. Players, especially elite ones, have more leverage than management.

For the players signing long term contracts, it IS about money. For 12, it's not. WMM doesn't get that...or at least he didn't get it soon enough.

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I like what the Packers did with Jennings, Jones, Nelson, Cobb and Adams.  Gave them all a second contract then cut them free, letting the next young WR take over.  Third contracts get expensive and usually cover a player's early 30's, when things start going wrong.  Problem is, Packers didn't restock at WR like TT used to so if Adams leaves, they don't have a whole lot behind him.  And I think they resign Adams to a huge deal because of that.  And the contract will become an albatross by that third year when the cap hit is $30m+.  Very few WRs have ever performed at a level to justify a 12% cap hit (estimating a $250m cap). 

Agreed, CUPF.
I took a look at the contract details of starting Packers WRs for the last 10 years or so to see if there were any trends. And you are right; the majority (Cobb, Jennings, Jones, and, so far Adams) have been 4 years/4 years and gone.
Jordy was the only one to domino on a 3rd contract (4/4/3) since Driver, who remarkably signed 4 (3/5/4/3).

Since Jordy was the last receiver to sign a 3rd, I thought it worth noting that he basically doubled his avg/yr and tripled his guarantee on that last one. Assuming the same would hold true for Adams, that would put his numbers at $29M avg/yr and a $90M guarantee over 4 years. Not impossible, but maybe not realistic. Those are QB numbers.

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