There's a new league leader in receiving yards. His name? Davante Adams.@tae15adams | @packers pic.twitter.com/10zUmUQ4BW
— NFL (@NFL) October 14, 2021
Would be hilarious to see him traded to GB and he morphs into a Davante or Jordy 2.0. Much of the angst about him is similar to Adams sophomore slump his 2nd year.
Send him to GB. We’ll take him https://t.co/cyHdTRik8A
— Ama Deisel (@amar3455) October 14, 2021
163 passing attempts this year, 61 to Adams. 37%. Gotta think that's #1 in the league.
But it's working. He's catching about 70% of them. Only thing that really stands out is 2 TD's in 5 games but that will likely improve as we get more healthy on the OL and improve the red zone efficiency.
Michael Rodney has been on a rampage about NOT paying Adams big bucks, dealing with facts about age and wide receivers.... Just saying. Adams as is right now is making himself too expensive for the Packers.
Too expensive for the Packers is too expensive for any team.
@packerboi posted:Would be hilarious to see him traded to GB and he morphs into a Davante or Jordy 2.0. Much of the angst about him is similar to Adams sophomore slump his 2nd year.
Send him to GB. We’ll take him https://t.co/cyHdTRik8A
— Ama Deisel (@amar3455) October 14, 2021
They stole him from Green Bay in the draft anyway. Him and Justin Jefferson both.
Rodgers would love Aiyuk
Really hard to read this FO. They've given out some headscratcher contracts but then have been very shrewd with others.
After months of no action, the #Packers and WR Davante Adams appear headed to franchise tag after the 2021 season.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) January 2, 2022
My story: https://t.co/MUYgBi3xvA
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Bob Euchre has a sad.
2nd in receptions, 3rd in yards; 5th in TDs, 2nd in recvg 1st's,
.@tae15adams is the first player in NFL history with 115+ catches, 1,350+ receiving yards & 11+ receiving TDs in back-to-back seasons.#GoPackGo pic.twitter.com/ZQN5FOC0xI
— Green Bay Packers (@packers) January 3, 2022
Basically everyone on the list with Adams was not only the No. 1 right away, but awesome right away.
— Peter Bukowski (@Peter_Bukowski) January 5, 2022
It took Davante 2 years and then he dominated. https://t.co/cS2EX96lgS
I think edge rusher could be a big factor in the new Adams offer/deal. This appears to be a very good draft for 3-4 OLB types (and crap for d-linemen again). If they feel they can rebuild the position around Gary, the Z/Preston money is there to play with. Of course that’s caponomics vs real money.
Friend of a friend that's supposedly buds with Hendrickson said they offered Adams 4 years at $80 million and he more or less told them to fuck off. No idea how it was structured though.
If Adams gave them a flat out no, however it was worded, that's not going to move the negotiations forward.
Would be good to hear, even a rumor, what Adams is looking for.
@H5 posted:If Adams gave them a flat out no, however it was worded, that's not going to move the negotiations forward.
Would be good to hear, even a rumor, what Adams is looking for.
Adams' camp said last summer that his goal was to be the highest paid WR in the NFL.
https://www.nfl.com/news/davan...-wr-negotiate-season
DeAndre Hopkins got 2 years and 54 million last year (he had some other things worked into the contract to reduce immediate cap hits, but the real contract was for 27 per year).
If he would have hit free agency, there were rumors he was going to get 30 million a year and that's what he appears to be asking for.
https://www.bleachernation.com...n-his-next-contract/
You can't win without a decent QB. Superstar WRs are nice, but 30 million?
A guess is that he ends up with something that will appear on paper to be something like 6 years and 150 million with 75 million guaranteed, but will have an out after the 3rd year that really makes it 3 years and 80 million.
Man, I remember when $30 mil a year was elite QB money, and it wasn't that long ago.
No reason for him to want to sign a 4yr $80m contract, which is $20m per year, when the franchise tag is worth that (or more) and is fully guaranteed. He'd be better off just having them continually tagging him.
He's basically said he wants in the neighborhood of $30m per year. Question is really for how many years.
@PackerHawk posted:Friend of a friend that's supposedly buds with Hendrickson said they offered Adams 4 years at $80 million and he more or less told them to fuck off. No idea how it was structured though.
4 years 20 is not a great offer. Not when Deandre Hopkins signed a 2 year 55 mil contract.
@Goalline posted:4 years 20 is not a great offer. Not when Deandre Hopkins signed a 2 year 55 mil contract.
Well, it is the Packers we are talking about here.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story...tag-wr-davante-adams
However, the Packers view Hopkins' average as closer to $20 million per year given that his most recent deal was an extension to his previous contract (five years, $81 million). The added money was $54.5 million over two more years.
Last summer, Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst explained his viewpoint like this: "It's how you interpret what the highest receiver in the National Football League is getting paid, you know what I mean?"
How does 17 view it?
@PackerHawk posted:Well, it is the Packers we are talking about here.
Yup!
@Pikes Peak posted:How does 17 view it?
Add a little nuance to it. How did his agent tell him to view it?
In a way that gets him paid more?
Not terribly surprising. And as I have said before , I do not believe he's worth north of 25 mil a year.
From @GMFB: #Packers star WR Davante Adams has informed the team he won’t play on the franchise tag, and the sides remain far apart on a long-term deal, per sources. It’s all coming to a head. Something has to give. pic.twitter.com/Df0zpvhglM
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 14, 2022
Re Davante Adams and Tag, this will show Packers true intent on Aaron (and vice versa).
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) March 14, 2022
Packers know what it will take to sign Adams; it would also lower his Cap.
I believe Aaron's contract is only guaranteed this year.
Keeping Tag on Adams will mean it is truly The Last Dance.
Brandt sticking to his belief of only a one-year window.
While I’d be beyond shocked if it happened, one of the best things that could happen for Green Bay would be if another team offered Davante Adams a contract this week. Green Bay could simply match, taking the negotiations out of GB’s hands, or get two 1st rnd picks in return.
— Andy Herman (@AndyHermanNFL) March 14, 2022
I think a sign and trade is a distinct possibility for Adams, but yes, what AR's true contract is means everything. If in reality it's a 1 year deal, then I do not see GB interested in Adams long term and this would be a "bring it back" one time deal.
Adams is almost 30. The Packers just do not hand out 3rd contracts to their WRs
@michiganjoe posted:Re Davante Adams and Tag, this will show Packers true intent on Aaron (and vice versa).
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) March 14, 2022
Packers know what it will take to sign Adams; it would also lower his Cap.
I believe Aaron's contract is only guaranteed this year.
Keeping Tag on Adams will mean it is truly The Last Dance.Brandt sticking to his belief of only a one-year window.
The fact that GB didn’t trade 12 is damn near criminal.
pickle barrel.
Just got a text from a guy who said Adams will not play under the tag deal.
@Pakrz posted:The fact that GB didn’t trade 12 is damn near criminal.
Really bad move unless they win it all with AR under center.
Although free agency is stupid-money season, no one is going to offer Adams something where they'd have to give up first-round picks. Not when he is nearing 30 and the last several drafts are seeing high quality WRs deep in the draft. Gutekunst screwed himself by not drafting WRs earlier in the last few years. Am. Rodgers may (hopefully) pan out eventually, but he's not a WR1. This is Not How to Build a Roster 101.
@michiganjoe posted:Re Davante Adams and Tag, this will show Packers true intent on Aaron (and vice versa).
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) March 14, 2022
Packers know what it will take to sign Adams; it would also lower his Cap.
I believe Aaron's contract is only guaranteed this year.
Keeping Tag on Adams will mean it is truly The Last Dance.Brandt sticking to his belief of only a one-year window.
If the opt-out is still in the deal, the Packers messed up... so I expect Rodgers plays at least 3 more seasons.
@50k Club posted:Although free agency is stupid-money season, no one is going to offer Adams something where they'd have to give up first-round picks. Not when he is nearing 30 and the last several drafts are seeing high quality WRs deep in the draft. Gutekunst screwed himself by not drafting WRs earlier in the last few years. Am. Rodgers may (hopefully) pan out eventually, but he's not a WR1. This is Not How to Build a Roster 101.
Adams' is likely to play at an elite level for the next 1-2 years and then decline as he moves into his mid 30s.
Someone will pay him what he wants (maybe even the Packers) and then regret the contract about 3 years in. Driver was done as an elite guy at age 34, and he's an outlier (not quite like Jerry Rice, but he aged well better than most). Greg Jennings was done at 28/29. Jordy was a shell of himself at 32. Javon Walker was done at 29. Cobb peaked and then declined after age 25/26. The Cowboys just gave Amari Cooper away at age 27.
More often than not, it's a mistake to give a WR a big third contract.
A lot of WRs struggle in their first 1-2 years, but Amari Rodgers was worse than most. The fact he showed no elusiveness even on punt returns is a red flag. A lot of Packer WRs that eventually were very good contributed on special teams as young players (Freeman, Nelson, Cobb). Amari played special teams but was a disaster.
@Goalline posted:Add a little nuance to it. How did his agent tell him to view it?
To add more nuance to it, what did other teams tell Davante's agent behind the scenes they were ready to give him?
So it's not about the money for Rodgers (he already made it) but it is for Adams. I'm not sure what team that matters would pay him what he would actually want to play for--though I suppose the biggest kick in the nuts would be TB paying him, and then Brady/Adams winning a Super Bowl. Big money receivers are rarely a thing in today's NFL. Give me 3 dependable guys plus Dillion/Jones over 1 main guy all season every season.