I don't know if this got posted. But playing the WR position is a lot more than just running routes and catching balls. Here is DA on Game Pass.
I'm really going to miss football this year.
Look at it this way. Every team gets to add one SB win to their total. Except of course the Vikings, Lions, and Browns.
Watching Adams in the 2019 Seahawks vs Packers playoff game........and boy what a show did he and Aaron put on during this game. Adams is just the best receiver.......oh, and loved all the comments when we drafted him. 
Adams has the quickest feet off the LOS, and because of that, he gets a great release. From that point on, DBs are playing catch-up.
@Goldie posted:and I HATE to say this but........that goll dang Chris Carter was the gawd of sideline catches. Hated him for it too. Jordy was our gawd, but Carter was the NFL’s gawd.
Then do not say it! I never cared for The Whiner. He made a living catching those sideline passes while falling out of bounds, but that doesn't mean I have to like him. He's another viking player who won NOTHING! Mentioning his name in a post while comparing Adams and Nelson, is almost sacrilege, in my book!
First thing I think of with Cris Carter is how he extended his consecutive games started streak once against the Packers by lining up for the first snap of the game and not moving then sitting out the rest of the game. Lame.
Second thing I think of is Reggie tossing him at Warren Moon for a sack.
Then there's his general whining and crying on the sidelines.
After that I can think about his ability to play football.
Chris "Fall Guy" Carter.
Told me everything I ever needed to know about him.
@PackerHawk posted:First thing I think of with Cris Carter is how he extended his consecutive games started streak once against the Packers by lining up for the first snap of the game and not moving then sitting out the rest of the game. Lame.
Second thing I think of is Reggie tossing him at Warren Moon for a sack.
Then there's his general whining and crying on the sidelines.
After that I can think about his ability to play football.
The Reggie White flinging of Carter at Warren Moon was one of Reggie's best pass rushes, ever, in my book!
Check out the final block...
𝗢𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗱𝗮𝘆 (Sept. 15, 2012): Needing just 12 more yards to break Ron Rivers' Fresno State rushing record, @CoachRRouse broke it in style, bursting for a 94-yard TD score😎
— Fresno State Football (@FresnoStateFB) September 15, 2020
(also check out the downfield blocking by that Adams guy, hear he's a big deal now) pic.twitter.com/zHCxOk2dEE
Sunday, Deguara got two defenders with one block.
Tae only had one defender so he blocked him twice.
Tae was about a buck seventy in that clip, Deguido has a good 50-60lbs on him.
I'll admit, I was super critical of Adams and very down on him in his sophomore season. Ended up that he played that year injured and it never went public.
He's up there with GB all-time best WRs. Hard to compare but I put Sharpe #1, Jordy #2 and Adams at #3. What he's doing as the only real receiving threat is impressive. It does help when Rodgers is his QB but still.
One thing we know about Adams now, if his legs/feet ain't right he's not the same player. He needs to be breaking ankles to be the All Pro guy he is.
Ironically, Kiper stated on draft day that he wasn't a #1 WR, but could be a serviceable #2 and his "basketball skills that served him so well at Fresno won't translate to the NFL where he will face better athletes."
@CUPackFan posted:I'll admit, I was super critical of Adams and very down on him in his sophomore season. Ended up that he played that year injured and it never went public.
He's up there with GB all-time best WRs. Hard to compare but I put Sharpe #1, Jordy #2 and Adams at #3. What he's doing as the only real receiving threat is impressive. It does help when Rodgers is his QB but still.
I was also very critical for the same reasons you were. He was statistically one of the worst WRs in the NFL that year (I think his 5.1 yards/target were the worst in the NFL). He should never have been on the field, but that was the year that Jordy blew out his ACL in the preseason, Ty Montgomery broke his leg, and they had to play an over-the-hill James Jones because they ran out of WRs. In retrospect, it was lucky they didn't really screw up Adams by having him get a more serious injury playing hurt. Then, both Cobb and Adams went down in the playoffs and they had to play a playoff game with Janis and Abbrederis getting huge snap counts. Of course, if this didn't happen we would have never gotten to experience playoff Janis.
As far as Packer WR rankings in the modern era, I think there is still a large gap between the top 2 and the rest (Lofton and Sharpe). I think Adams best comp is Jennings. We all justifiably make fun of Gerg, but he was a top 10 NFL WR for about 5 years. They both run great patterns and were very fluid coming out of breaks. Jordy was a different type of receiver. He wasn't generally a guy that was going to beat guys on sharp cuts in the middle of the field, but he had great deep speed and may have been the best back-shoulder/falling-out-of-bounds-while-keeping-his-feet-in WR in the NFL in the last 20 years.
That was also the year we found out Cobb was just a guy if he didn't have 2 really good WR's taking the pressure off him. He should have been a 1200 yard guy that year if he was a legit #1 or #2 NFL WR.
@PackerHawk posted:That was also the year we found out Cobb was just a guy if he didn't have 2 really good WR's taking the pressure off him. He should have been a 1200 yard guy that year if he was a legit #1 or #2 NFL WR.
He made some big plays over the years for us, but I don't see much of an advantage having him over Lazard...
@PackerHawk posted:That was also the year we found out Cobb was just a guy if he didn't have 2 really good WR's taking the pressure off him. He should have been a 1200 yard guy that year if he was a legit #1 or #2 NFL WR.
Just to dig up the dead horse's skeleton and beat it to death again, but MM didn't scheme Cobb open, which is the type of player Cobb is. He did bring him out of the backfield on occasion, but he didn't utilize him correctly.
His one big year (2014) coincided with peak Eddie Lacy and peak Jordy (98-1519-13 TDs), so you have a good point about needing to be a complementary, rather than a leading player.
@YATittle posted:He made some big plays over the years for us, but I don't see much of an advantage having him over Lazard...
You are much better with Lazard if you want to feature a power running game. Lazard is basically a TE playing WR. Lazard is 7 inches taller and 50 pounds heavier than Cobb.
The interesting thing about Lazard too is that he's a thinking player like Cobb. Such as on that long pass play down the middle where he threw up his left arm to signal Rodgers that there was no safety between him and the goal line. That's something Cobb would do, as in that Bears game where he got the division-clinching TD.
I like Lazard a lot, but he has a ton more to actually accomplish before realistically being compared to Cobb.
Cobb was potential followed by success. Lazard is just potential thus far.
The key to this offense is WR and TE blocking. I used to watch Tae in practice a lot when he was in college. He was always on his fellow WR to block. "Block your ass off!" "Get in the weight room!" "No block, no rock!"
Every practice he'd be up in their grill about it...as a freshman and sophomore.
I wonder if he's carried that leadership over to the WR group in GB?
That block by Lazar was a growns man play.
#Packers coach Matt LaFleur called @AllenLazard the "enforcer" in the run game.
— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) September 17, 2020
"Defensive backs know where he is at all times because he's going to try and punish you."
One thing Lazard has going for him: his coach really likes his play.
Hah.....never seen that before. No FB & use a 3rd WR as a listed starter. I like it!
Hines Ward may have been more athletic but Lazard has some of Ward's game in him when it comes to being physical.
I've said many times, despite what anyone thinks of WR's 2-5, they all excel at blocking. If MLF is really trying to reshape this offense with power running, that is no mistake.
In one of the post game shows they said since 2016 Adams leads the NFL in Touchdowns scored.
Almost as impressive as leading X4 in "likes"... almost.
I didn’t watch the WRs but the TEs were really good against MN setting up and engaging blocks in the run game.
@YATittle posted:The interesting thing about Lazard too is that he's a thinking player like Cobb. Such as on that long pass play down the middle where he threw up his left arm to signal Rodgers that there was no safety between him and the goal line. That's something Cobb would do, as in that Bears game where he got the division-clinching TD.
Lazard will have a chance to show he is better than Cobb was. He has to be involved in more passing plays, to do it. MVS and Adams will be stiff competition for Lazard and should make him an even better player than he already is.
I don’t get why Lazard wasn’t drafted. I know he was hurt cause he’s a tweener: small Te or big and slow WR but he’s a football player and like Donald driver that’s gotta be worth a seventh rounder