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@Goldie posted:

and I HATE to say this but........that goll dang Chris Carter was the gawd of sideline catches.  Hated him for it too.  Jordy was our gawd, but Carter was the NFLโ€™s gawd.

Then do not say it! I never cared for The Whiner. He made a living catching those sideline passes while falling out of bounds, but that doesn't mean I have to like him. He's another viking player who won NOTHING! Mentioning his name in a post while comparing Adams and Nelson, is almost sacrilege, in my book! 

First thing I think of with Cris Carter is how he extended his consecutive games started streak once against the Packers by lining up for the first snap of the game and not moving then sitting out the rest of the game. Lame.

Second thing I think of is Reggie tossing him at Warren Moon for a sack. 

Then there's his general whining and crying on the sidelines. 

After that I can think about his ability to play football. 

@PackerHawk posted:

First thing I think of with Cris Carter is how he extended his consecutive games started streak once against the Packers by lining up for the first snap of the game and not moving then sitting out the rest of the game. Lame.

Second thing I think of is Reggie tossing him at Warren Moon for a sack. 

Then there's his general whining and crying on the sidelines. 

After that I can think about his ability to play football. 

The Reggie White flinging of Carter at Warren Moon was one of Reggie's best pass rushes, ever, in my book!

@CUPackFan posted:

I'll admit, I was super critical of Adams and very down on him in his sophomore season.  Ended up that he played that year injured and it never went public. 

He's up there with GB all-time best WRs.  Hard to compare but I put Sharpe #1, Jordy #2 and Adams at #3.  What he's doing as the only real receiving threat is impressive.  It does help when Rodgers is his QB but still.  

I was also very critical for the same reasons you were. He was statistically one of the worst WRs in the NFL that year (I think his 5.1 yards/target were the worst in the NFL). He should never have been on the field, but that was the year that Jordy blew out his ACL in the preseason, Ty Montgomery broke his leg, and they had to play an over-the-hill James Jones because they ran out of WRs. In retrospect, it was lucky they didn't really screw up Adams by having him get a more serious injury playing hurt. Then, both Cobb and Adams went down in the playoffs and they had to play a playoff game with Janis and Abbrederis getting huge snap counts. Of course, if this didn't happen we would have never gotten to experience playoff Janis. 

As far as Packer WR rankings in the modern era, I think there is still a large gap between the top 2 and the rest (Lofton and Sharpe). I think Adams best comp is Jennings. We all justifiably make fun of Gerg, but he was a top 10 NFL WR for about 5 years. They both run great patterns and were very fluid coming out of breaks. Jordy was a different type of receiver. He wasn't generally a guy that was going to beat guys on sharp cuts in the middle of the field, but he had great deep speed and may have been the best back-shoulder/falling-out-of-bounds-while-keeping-his-feet-in WR in the NFL in the last 20 years. 

@PackerHawk posted:

That was also the year we found out Cobb was just a guy if he didn't have 2 really good WR's taking the pressure off him. He should have been a 1200 yard guy that year if he was a legit #1 or #2 NFL WR. 

Just to dig up the dead horse's skeleton and beat it to death again, but MM didn't scheme Cobb open, which is the type of player Cobb is. He did bring him out of the backfield on occasion, but he didn't utilize him correctly. 

His one big year (2014) coincided with peak Eddie Lacy and peak Jordy (98-1519-13 TDs), so you have a good point about needing to be a complementary, rather than a leading player.