Per Mike Mayock, in Konz three year career he never played a full season due to injuries.
Would be great to land a guy like Chris Meyers(Texans) as he's better than Wells, but a bit long in the tooth. Unlike James Jones, I think Wells will get plenty of action once the FA period begins.
I think it's wishful thinking to believe Konz, no matter how good he is, would be able to step in as a rookie anyhow and perform Well. Yea, it could happen but the odds aren't good. If Wells goes, I would expect TT to pick up a FA that can play there.
Wells should have between 3 years & potentially 5 years of solid production left.
Barring injury 3 years for sure. It really depends on how much Wells wants to stay a Packer. If Wells is looking for the big payday, I'm sure the Cowboys would be willing ala Marco Rivera.
Barring injury 3 years for sure. It really depends on how much Wells wants to stay a Packer. If Wells is looking for the big payday, I'm sure the Cowboys would be willing ala Marco Rivera.
EDS is ready for a game or 2.
Trusting him for all 16?
Well... I don't, but not certain how the coaches feel about that.
Trusting him for all 16?
Well... I don't, but not certain how the coaches feel about that.
From the combine.
@ShawnZobel_DH: Wisconsin C Peter Konz managed just 18 reps on bench.
@ShawnZobel_DH: Wisconsin C Peter Konz managed just 18 reps on bench.
Is 18 reps of 225, bad? "just"??
quote:EDS is ready for a game or 2.
As long as they're the Lions games and he gets Suh suspended in both of them.
quote:Originally posted by PackerRuss:
Is 18 reps of 225, bad? "just"??
Most O-linemen are in the 30's. Best ever is 49 by the DT CHI took last year. Most punters are in the teens and a lot of QBs top 20.
quote:Originally posted by PackerRuss:
Is 18 reps of 225, bad? "just"??
Unless his arms are crazy long it's below average..Not to brag but I was able to put up 18 reps when I weighed 215#....Bench is hugely overrated anyways. Now if he's the type of guy that doesn't live in the weight room and can just walk in and put up 18 reps it gets a bit more impressive..I can't remember who said it but they described football strength and weight room strength..It might have been Mike Golic talking about Reggie White and how football strength is where it's at...
Once Peter Konz goes through the athletic drills and people line up the measurables there is no way he'll last to #28
People his size are not supposed to move like that (quickness and athleticism) and his power is off the charts. I put him in the Joe Thomas category from that perspective.
If he played tackle he'd be a top 10 pick easily.
People his size are not supposed to move like that (quickness and athleticism) and his power is off the charts. I put him in the Joe Thomas category from that perspective.
If he played tackle he'd be a top 10 pick easily.
Packers could shift at center
jsonline.com
By Bob McGinn on Saturday, February 25th, 2012
Past the click Bob McGinn takes a look at Dietrich-Smith. He gives an evaluation of him and a comparison to released center Nick McDonald. He also takes a look at the available of centers in free agency. There's a ton of guys available.
jsonline.com
By Bob McGinn on Saturday, February 25th, 2012
quote:The Green Bay Packers and center Scott Wells remain so far apart in negotiations on a new contract that the team would be foolish if it hadn't already begun to seriously explore other options.
Sources at the NFL combine with knowledge of negotiations said Friday that Wells' latest proposal to the Packers requested a deal averaging about $7.5 million.
The Packers, on the other hand, are believed to be offering somewhere between $4 million and $5 million. continue
Past the click Bob McGinn takes a look at Dietrich-Smith. He gives an evaluation of him and a comparison to released center Nick McDonald. He also takes a look at the available of centers in free agency. There's a ton of guys available.
quote:Originally posted by PackerRuss:
Is 18 reps of 225, bad? "just"??
Well, for most people that's an incredible feat. For an NFL offensive lineman, not at all. His competition, the center out of Michigan, put up 225 lbs 41 times.
quote:Originally posted by Packermaniac:quote:Originally posted by PackerRuss:
Is 18 reps of 225, bad? "just"??
Unless his arms are crazy long it's below average..Not to brag but I was able to put up 18 reps when I weighed 215#....Bench is hugely overrated anyways. Now if he's the type of guy that doesn't live in the weight room and can just walk in and put up 18 reps it gets a bit more impressive..I can't remember who said it but they described football strength and weight room strength..It might have been Mike Golic talking about Reggie White and how football strength is where it's at...
Agree. Raw strength doesn't necessarily mean you're a good football player. Mike Neal is strong (Insert BS banter here) and he has struggled to date. I recall Jamal Reynolds putting up stupid numbers at the combine too and he didn't amount to anything.
I think leverage and functional strength is far more important in the NFL than gym strength.
quote:Originally posted by titmfatied:
Packers could shift at center
jsonline.com
By Bob McGinn on Saturday, February 25th, 2012quote:The Green Bay Packers and center Scott Wells remain so far apart in negotiations on a new contract that the team would be foolish if it hadn't already begun to seriously explore other options.
Sources at the NFL combine with knowledge of negotiations said Friday that Wells' latest proposal to the Packers requested a deal averaging about $7.5 million.
The Packers, on the other hand, are believed to be offering somewhere between $4 million and $5 million. continue
Past the click Bob McGinn takes a look at Dietrich-Smith. He gives an evaluation of him and a comparison to released center Nick McDonald. He also takes a look at the available of centers in free agency. There's a ton of guys available.
I love Wells but 7+ million is too much money for him. If there's a team that will pay him that, God bless him and I don't blame him for taking the money. GB is in a pretty good position if they lose Wells considering all the veteran talent on the market. I'm sure they could get a guy for a decent price that can come in and play for a few years.
I'm holding out hope for a super stud OLB in round 1.
Wells will get done in the next 1 - 2 weeks.
Agreed Hungry. Just posturing right now. A deal will get done here before FA begins.
@JasonColeYahoo: Pack working hard to get Scott Wells done. Source said GB met with agent Brian Parker this weekend.
Here's the latest from Bob McGinn's Twitter Feed:
https://twitter.com/#!/BobMcGi...s/174006042609455104
The #Packers, nowhere in talks with C Scott Wells, met with agent (D. Rosenhaus) in Indy to discuss Texans UFA-to-be C Chris Myers.
https://twitter.com/#!/BobMcGi...s/174006042609455104
The #Packers, nowhere in talks with C Scott Wells, met with agent (D. Rosenhaus) in Indy to discuss Texans UFA-to-be C Chris Myers.
If Drew Rosenhaus is going to be an easier negotiation, that's just pathetic.
quote:
Report: Packers pursuing Texans center Chris Myers
Posted by Mike Florio on February 27, 2012, 8:54 AM EST
APIn public, Packers G.M. Ted Thompson won’t reveal much about his plans for 2012, or any year. Behind closed doors, he reportedly has begun pursuing at least one player who is under contract with another team.
Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports that, with efforts to re-sign center Scott Wells going nowhere, the Packers have turned their attention to Texans center Chris Myers. Specifically, McGinn reports that the Packers met with Myers’ agent, Drew Rosenhaus, to discuss Myers.
Wells is 31, but Myers isn’t far behind. He’ll be 31 on September 15. (That’s also Florio Jr.’s birthday. Who is now nearly large enough to play center for the Packers. Or the Texans. Or any other team.)
It’s a clear and direct violation of the rules for the Packers to talk to Myers, but the Packers aren’t the only team doing it. Indeed, if the famously rules-conscious Thompson is tampering, everyone is tampering.
“Almost every re-signing, waiver and UFA signing upcoming germinate from supposedly illegal club-agent meetings in Indy,” McGinn writes. “All happens here.”
McGinn uses “supposedly” because the rules prohibit meetings with free agents who won’t be free until March 13 at 4:00 p.m. ET. But no one follows the rules. Indeed, as the Packers negotiate with Myers, Wells undoubtedly is negotiating with some other team, or teams.
Sometimes, this gauging of the market helps lay the foundation for a player to stay put. The bigger issue is that tampering remains rampant, and the NFL will continue to look foolish until the rules are revised to reflect the reality
TT checking into Chris Myers makes a lot of sense. I don't think TT would want to draft a rookie center and expect him to start right away. Adjusting to the NFL and making the line calls would be asking a lot for a rookie. Konz may be good but I think TT has some other players in mind for the first pick and this is a deep center class.
quote:Originally posted by Pakrz:quote:Originally posted by Packermaniac:quote:Originally posted by PackerRuss:
Is 18 reps of 225, bad? "just"??
Unless his arms are crazy long it's below average..Not to brag but I was able to put up 18 reps when I weighed 215#....Bench is hugely overrated anyways. Now if he's the type of guy that doesn't live in the weight room and can just walk in and put up 18 reps it gets a bit more impressive..I can't remember who said it but they described football strength and weight room strength..It might have been Mike Golic talking about Reggie White and how football strength is where it's at...
Agree. Raw strength doesn't necessarily mean you're a good football player. Mike Neal is strong (Insert BS banter here) and he has struggled to date. I recall Jamal Reynolds putting up stupid numbers at the combine too and he didn't amount to anything.
I think leverage and functional strength is far more important in the NFL than gym strength.
Most important metric of OL strength is squat, not bench. You do not dig a DT out of the hole using your arms. No squat in the combine.
I don't think there is much to the Myers possibility if we are to believe the story on GB moving away from the ZBS. Myers was in a ZBS in HOU and played in DEN's ZBS before that.
How dare you question the accuracy of Florio! His integrity is above reproach, especially when it comes to the GBP. Just like all butthurt Queenie fans.
Forgive me, I'm a draftee.
Isnt that considered tampering seeing hes still a Texan yet
What am I missing here? Myers doesn't sound like he'd command much less than Wells and he's the same age. 
Perhaps you're missing that it was written by Florio.
I could see TT picking Rosendouche for info on Myers' asking price to gauge the market for Wells' services. Yeah, that's the same thing as inquiring about Myers as a player.
quote:Originally posted by Hungry5:
Forgive me, I'm a draftee.
You're forgiven, Hawkeye5
I'd like to see him return, but there are a lot of other options available if they aren't able to work it out.
If I had to hazard a guess, I believe they'll end up re-signing him (even though he isn't "one of TT's guys").
If I had to hazard a guess, I believe they'll end up re-signing him (even though he isn't "one of TT's guys").
I knew you'd get that... one of my other fav's that I use fairly regularly. Steam will do that.
I would've gotten that one too (Frank's letter), but I didn't notice where you posted that.
Don't think I've used it here ever, or at least not in a long time.
Forward, drink!
Forward, drink!
It feels as though it's going to "martini".
